comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 17 seconds ago
What's the point of impeachment if he's not a sitting president
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He can't run again in 2024. Think it also stops him from getting security briefings. Probably pizzed at that as he could sell Intel.
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I think there's also the moral duty - especially for those who were injured and lost their lives for the trial to go ahead.

Not that it's a trial in the sense of the word, as his guilt will not be determined based on evidence but political allegiance.
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Just take it to the actual courts then
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Would surely depend if there were complainants? Possibly victims families.

Like in the case of Giuliani, Dominion the voting systems company) are suing him for his false election claims.

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 8 minutes ago
I can reopen politics thread...

However It will be done so on the understanding that should a comment be abusive or directed to a poster as opposed to making a political point, that user will be one match banned from the thread evermore.
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Can you define abusive?! 😉
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cant😳







Sorry, can't..

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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 1 minute ago
George Carlin had a great sketch about how our use of language and bloated non-descript phrases has changed over time, it's a good watch as with all of his material
https://youtu.be/o25I2fzFGoY
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Excuse my stupidity, but did admin not close the thread with the intention of letting it remain dead...and we move on?

Not putting you or Admin on the spot, but surely exactly the same thing can happen if it opens up again?

I realise that can happen here too of course, so I am confusing myself here.

But you get my jist...we messed up and the ball was taken away.

Why give it back...what was the point?
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Thought you were reading back ffs

Admin said he will open it up, but any posts focussed on a person rather than the politics will earn a lifetime ban

I predict you last one good drinking session tbab 👍
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I meant i would read back on the old thread, per renoog request to admin, to be nosey as i was not here Monday👍

I have been on beer and here a hundred times in three years and never went personal, first😜

I am taking your last line in jest😀
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It was meant in jest pal

You will know when I'm not jokingz because I'll take you up on that offer of a fight
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Haha, I was watching the Purge that night.

Thankfully, in my shed-man cave there is no tv and I listen to hippy and country or chill out tunes.

With covid, deaths, age ...and being on here for years, I now feel like I have to behave and not treat the place as a verbal fight club.

Plus, you get to know each other a little and are not just randoms, so with all the problems facing everyone, I try no longer to add grief to the mix.

So the census in coming up next month.

I wonder if they are going to change the s3x question of male/female and add 57 other genders?

If they do add ‘other’, there have been calls that this would be offensive as it puts trans people into one homogenous group (much like many people I know hating the term BAME, although I would argue that BAME truly is a huge group) or if they add several different genders; won’t that completely ruin the reliability of the census when it comes to planning for services & analysing opinions?

Will be interesting if we get some progressive woke version or basically the standard version which also helps in terms of comparison with previous consensuses.

I identify as a multidimensional, multitemporal, total ethnic, fluid being. So when I full out my answers, how will they be attributed?

I find such questioning offensive to my subjective view of my inner self and I won’t tolerate such hateful misogyny, damn patriarchy, life has never been so evil.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 minutes ago
So the census in coming up next month.

I wonder if they are going to change the s3x question of male/female and add 57 other genders?

If they do add ‘other’, there have been calls that this would be offensive as it puts trans people into one homogenous group (much like many people I know hating the term BAME, although I would argue that BAME truly is a huge group) or if they add several different genders; won’t that completely ruin the reliability of the census when it comes to planning for services & analysing opinions?

Will be interesting if we get some progressive woke version or basically the standard version which also helps in terms of comparison with previous consensuses.

I identify as a multidimensional, multitemporal, total ethnic, fluid being. So when I full out my answers, how will they be attributed?

I find such questioning offensive to my subjective view of my inner self and I won’t tolerate such hateful misogyny, damn patriarchy, life has never been so evil.
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Haha.

People here have been known to put Nationality= Prodesant!

I put Ulsterish.

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 minutes ago
So the census in coming up next month.

I wonder if they are going to change the s3x question of male/female and add 57 other genders?

If they do add ‘other’, there have been calls that this would be offensive as it puts trans people into one homogenous group (much like many people I know hating the term BAME, although I would argue that BAME truly is a huge group) or if they add several different genders; won’t that completely ruin the reliability of the census when it comes to planning for services & analysing opinions?

Will be interesting if we get some progressive woke version or basically the standard version which also helps in terms of comparison with previous consensuses.

I identify as a multidimensional, multitemporal, total ethnic, fluid being. So when I full out my answers, how will they be attributed?

I find such questioning offensive to my subjective view of my inner self and I won’t tolerate such hateful misogyny, damn patriarchy, life has never been so evil.
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Haha.

People here have been known to put Nationality= Prodesant!

I put Ulsterish.
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Reminds me of this joke from Christopher Hitchens

https://youtu.be/sFsD4SqBbKY

😂😂😂

I think they should have more frequent censuseseses, 10 years is really quite a big gap especially with the rate of change in demographics and social norms. I still see some people citing 2011 census data on occasion, which is a shame given the need for up-to-date data to drive policy.

comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 1 minute ago
I think they should have more frequent censuseseses, 10 years is really quite a big gap especially with the rate of change in demographics and social norms. I still see some people citing 2011 census data on occasion, which is a shame given the need for up-to-date data to drive policy.
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I agree 5 years would be better.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 minutes ago
So the census in coming up next month.

I wonder if they are going to change the s3x question of male/female and add 57 other genders?

If they do add ‘other’, there have been calls that this would be offensive as it puts trans people into one homogenous group (much like many people I know hating the term BAME, although I would argue that BAME truly is a huge group) or if they add several different genders; won’t that completely ruin the reliability of the census when it comes to planning for services & analysing opinions?

Will be interesting if we get some progressive woke version or basically the standard version which also helps in terms of comparison with previous consensuses.

I identify as a multidimensional, multitemporal, total ethnic, fluid being. So when I full out my answers, how will they be attributed?

I find such questioning offensive to my subjective view of my inner self and I won’t tolerate such hateful misogyny, damn patriarchy, life has never been so evil.
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Haha.

People here have been known to put Nationality= Prodesant!

I put Ulsterish.
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Reminds me of this joke from Christopher Hitchens

https://youtu.be/sFsD4SqBbKY

😂😂😂
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So true.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 minutes ago
So the census in coming up next month.

I wonder if they are going to change the s3x question of male/female and add 57 other genders?

If they do add ‘other’, there have been calls that this would be offensive as it puts trans people into one homogenous group (much like many people I know hating the term BAME, although I would argue that BAME truly is a huge group) or if they add several different genders; won’t that completely ruin the reliability of the census when it comes to planning for services & analysing opinions?

Will be interesting if we get some progressive woke version or basically the standard version which also helps in terms of comparison with previous consensuses.

I identify as a multidimensional, multitemporal, total ethnic, fluid being. So when I full out my answers, how will they be attributed?

I find such questioning offensive to my subjective view of my inner self and I won’t tolerate such hateful misogyny, damn patriarchy, life has never been so evil.
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Haha.

People here have been known to put Nationality= Prodesant!

I put Ulsterish.
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Reminds me of this joke from Christopher Hitchens

https://youtu.be/sFsD4SqBbKY

😂😂😂
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Went out with a girl from Armagh and while walking through the town centre, only occupied by shops, she told me to cross over as I was on the side of the road Catholics used??

Another girl I liked, but who said no thanks, lived in a village where there was a Catholic and Protestant Chinese takeaway....one side unable to use the other.

I thought I was mad, but apparently I am a progressive liberal in a bigots body.

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 minutes ago
So the census in coming up next month.

I wonder if they are going to change the s3x question of male/female and add 57 other genders?

If they do add ‘other’, there have been calls that this would be offensive as it puts trans people into one homogenous group (much like many people I know hating the term BAME, although I would argue that BAME truly is a huge group) or if they add several different genders; won’t that completely ruin the reliability of the census when it comes to planning for services & analysing opinions?

Will be interesting if we get some progressive woke version or basically the standard version which also helps in terms of comparison with previous consensuses.

I identify as a multidimensional, multitemporal, total ethnic, fluid being. So when I full out my answers, how will they be attributed?

I find such questioning offensive to my subjective view of my inner self and I won’t tolerate such hateful misogyny, damn patriarchy, life has never been so evil.
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Haha.

People here have been known to put Nationality= Prodesant!

I put Ulsterish.
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Reminds me of this joke from Christopher Hitchens

https://youtu.be/sFsD4SqBbKY

😂😂😂
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Went out with a girl from Armagh and while walking through the town centre, only occupied by shops, she told me to cross over as I was on the side of the road Catholics used??

Another girl I liked, but who said no thanks, lived in a village where there was a Catholic and Protestant Chinese takeaway....one side unable to use the other.

I thought I was mad, but apparently I am a progressive liberal in a bigots body.


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Stop picking on us sexy kafflicks

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 minutes ago
So the census in coming up next month.

I wonder if they are going to change the s3x question of male/female and add 57 other genders?

If they do add ‘other’, there have been calls that this would be offensive as it puts trans people into one homogenous group (much like many people I know hating the term BAME, although I would argue that BAME truly is a huge group) or if they add several different genders; won’t that completely ruin the reliability of the census when it comes to planning for services & analysing opinions?

Will be interesting if we get some progressive woke version or basically the standard version which also helps in terms of comparison with previous consensuses.

I identify as a multidimensional, multitemporal, total ethnic, fluid being. So when I full out my answers, how will they be attributed?

I find such questioning offensive to my subjective view of my inner self and I won’t tolerate such hateful misogyny, damn patriarchy, life has never been so evil.
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Haha.

People here have been known to put Nationality= Prodesant!

I put Ulsterish.
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Reminds me of this joke from Christopher Hitchens

https://youtu.be/sFsD4SqBbKY

😂😂😂
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Went out with a girl from Armagh and while walking through the town centre, only occupied by shops, she told me to cross over as I was on the side of the road Catholics used??

Another girl I liked, but who said no thanks, lived in a village where there was a Catholic and Protestant Chinese takeaway....one side unable to use the other.

I thought I was mad, but apparently I am a progressive liberal in a bigots body.


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Crazy times

Does anyone have experience of using political orientation tests such as https://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010 ?

Any that work well in practice?

* https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Yeah we did that a few months ago and some had done it a before that.

Most discredit these tests and of course they won’t be perfect but the results that posters on here revealed seemed to match quite well I think.

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https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=0.75&soc=-1.54

Interesting, well in that case I'm gonna give that one a try. At least if a few people do it then we can get a rough idea of where we stand in relation to each other, even if the test itself can't accurately place someone individually. IMO most of the quibbling on this thread is over exaggerated perceived differences so it's be nice to get some insight

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
So the census in coming up next month.

I wonder if they are going to change the s3x question of male/female and add 57 other genders?

If they do add ‘other’, there have been calls that this would be offensive as it puts trans people into one homogenous group (much like many people I know hating the term BAME, although I would argue that BAME truly is a huge group) or if they add several different genders; won’t that completely ruin the reliability of the census when it comes to planning for services & analysing opinions?

Will be interesting if we get some progressive woke version or basically the standard version which also helps in terms of comparison with previous consensuses.

I identify as a multidimensional, multitemporal, total ethnic, fluid being. So when I full out my answers, how will they be attributed?

I find such questioning offensive to my subjective view of my inner self and I won’t tolerate such hateful misogyny, damn patriarchy, life has never been so evil.
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Other. just saw a YouTube video with some funny Navajo dudes laughing at the racial votes.
Black
Latino
Something else
Asian
In the immortal words of Eddie Cochrane
They're real good lookin' man
They're something else.

Something else 😂😂😂😂

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 0 seconds ago
Something else 😂😂😂😂
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That’s truly awful

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=0.75&soc=-1.54
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Fascinating, this is what I got:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-1.88&soc=-2.67

Breaking it down into 2 axes adds a whole lot more scope for variation than just having a left/right spectrum.