comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
When Brendan Rodgers joined Leicester there were many Celtic fans who warned he’d be off at the first opportunity. I was mentally prepared then and still am now, that his tenure here might be short if we perform well. My main hope was that he’d stay long enough to improve us and make us more stable.
I think a lot of the ‘big club’ arguments end up like a manhood measuring contest. It’s not an argument I’m interested in having. Arsenal have been, historically, a much bigger club than Leicester. Of that there is no debate.
Timing, however, is everything. If Rodgers performs here for 2-3 seasons he may well have his pick of big club options. Arsenal are currently in a state of rebuilding following a dynasty in a similar way to Man Utd. It’s a tough job that can easily ruin his carefully built reputation. His current job also gives him an outside possibility of winning trophies without the pressure of having to.
The counter argument is one that suggests he should cash in whilst his star is high. He might not get another opportunity. Again in the case of Arsenal the gap to what he could achieve there as opposed to what he could do at Leicester is not a big as it was - at least in the short term. It’s a dangerous jump especially when there may be safer options on the horizon.
Considering when he left Celtic and his obvious ambition I think we’d be naive to think it couldn’t happen at Leicester, but I actually believe it’s not all about the manager. We’ve been building something here with these owners for a while now and there is a great deal of infrastructure in place. Despite being a smaller club we are better run than many of the traditional top six. We’ve continued to thrive despite the loss of many managers including the most successful ones (Pearson, Ranieri). Football isn’t all about the manager anymore like it was in the days of: Clough, Paisley, Ferguson or Wenger. Backroom interferences can starve the development of a club. Rodger’s feels like the latest player in a story that started before he’d arrived and will finish long after he’s gone.
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This is a well reasoned post. Pity Arro doesn’t have the IQ to understand it
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
When Brendan Rodgers joined Leicester there were many Celtic fans who warned he’d be off at the first opportunity. I was mentally prepared then and still am now, that his tenure here might be short if we perform well. My main hope was that he’d stay long enough to improve us and make us more stable.
I think a lot of the ‘big club’ arguments end up like a manhood measuring contest. It’s not an argument I’m interested in having. Arsenal have been, historically, a much bigger club than Leicester. Of that there is no debate.
Timing, however, is everything. If Rodgers performs here for 2-3 seasons he may well have his pick of big club options. Arsenal are currently in a state of rebuilding following a dynasty in a similar way to Man Utd. It’s a tough job that can easily ruin his carefully built reputation. His current job also gives him an outside possibility of winning trophies without the pressure of having to.
The counter argument is one that suggests he should cash in whilst his star is high. He might not get another opportunity. Again in the case of Arsenal the gap to what he could achieve there as opposed to what he could do at Leicester is not a big as it was - at least in the short term. It’s a dangerous jump especially when there may be safer options on the horizon.
Considering when he left Celtic and his obvious ambition I think we’d be naive to think it couldn’t happen at Leicester, but I actually believe it’s not all about the manager. We’ve been building something here with these owners for a while now and there is a great deal of infrastructure in place. Despite being a smaller club we are better run than many of the traditional top six. We’ve continued to thrive despite the loss of many managers including the most successful ones (Pearson, Ranieri). Football isn’t all about the manager anymore like it was in the days of: Clough, Paisley, Ferguson or Wenger. Backroom interferences can starve the development of a club. Rodger’s feels like the latest player in a story that started before he’d arrived and will finish long after he’s gone.
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This is a well reasoned post. Pity Arro doesn’t have the IQ to understand it
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I did understand it and I said good post and then went on to say that at some point he will move on but at some point Klopp and Pep will move on because that's what managers do. Celtic fans assured us that he would jump ship at the first opportunity and clearly that's not the case. It quickly became clear that he wasn't interested in Spurs and has now distanced himself from the Arsenal job so all this patter about him jumping ship at the first opportunity is bollox.
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Have Arsenal appointed someone and I missed it?
Enjoy him at Leicester while he's there.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 26 minutes ago
Have Arsenal appointed someone and I missed it?
Enjoy him at Leicester while he's there.
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Rodgers made Liverpool play good football and almost won us the league. Improved alot of our players notably Sturridge.But under him, Liverpool had the worst European campaigns. Went out of the CL group with only one win from a penalty. Europa league was the same. Domestic cups runs were poor. Somehow couldn't manage games when under pressure.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 28 minutes ago
What Rodgers has to prove is that he can maintain the impact he has on players over a longer period of time. At both liverpool and Celtic performances massively dropped off after the first couple of seasons and he seemed to struggle in getting players to play for him. Whether he needs to evolve his coaching or man management skills to keep players motivated and on their toes, I don't know. The first two seasons under him seem to produce great football and motivated players. Hope he stays at Leicester as I'll be really interested to see if he can maintain his impact.
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I think this is a very good post.
Rodgers issues tend to start manifesting themselves after the first couple of seasons. The football slows down, the intensity drops and his teams start becoming pedestrian and struggling to find a way to break teams down.
When that happened at Celtic he took the opportunity at Leicester - will be interesting to see if that’s because he couldn’t get any more out of the limited talent pool he had at Celtic or if it’s the sign of something else
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 9 minutes ago
The Man Utd job is the one that worries me. Arsenal doesn’t look like an attractive job right now, plus Man Utd always have millions upon millions available to spend. They’re a true giant, ready to get behind the right manager.
Whether Man U would go for him, I don’t know. Ed Woodward’s judgement is not renowned as being predictable.
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Yeah that would worry me too if I thought they'd go for him but I think they'd go for a bigger name. They made a huge mistake with Ole and I don't think they'd be looking to make the same mistake again. A massive club with huge funds available unlike Arsenal and Spurs would certainly be more attractive.
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Yeah, he would love it more at United. At least he'll get the ropey league and the 6th place league position with them
comment by LAMCAM♠ (U18537)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rodgers made Liverpool play good football and almost won us the league. Improved alot of our players notably Sturridge.But under him, Liverpool had the worst European campaigns. Went out of the CL group with only one win from a penalty. Europa league was the same. Domestic cups runs were poor. Somehow couldn't manage games when under pressure.
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Any team that had Gerrard and Suarez in it, can be made to look good. Let's wait and see. It isn't over yet
comment by LAMCAM♠ (U18537)
posted 1 minute ago
Rodgers made Liverpool play good football and almost won us the league. Improved alot of our players notably Sturridge.But under him, Liverpool had the worst European campaigns. Went out of the CL group with only one win from a penalty. Europa league was the same. Domestic cups runs were poor. Somehow couldn't manage games when under pressure.
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And I think good coaches and managers can be noted when they chang players without affecting the effectiveness and performance of the team. He couldn't do that.
Arsenal or United should go for Ancelotti. Looks like he will be available in the summer. Top coach. Doesnt need to spend to succeed
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
So it was just the players that did it at Celtic then, not rodgers, on them alone.
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They were 3-0 up at Palace and threw it away and Gerrard fell over, how can Rodgers be blamed for that?
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Why didn’t he make a change in the palace game, close up at 3-0?
Why did he go chasing the game against Chelsea, surely a draw would have been okay.
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LAMCAM♠ (U18537)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rodgers made Liverpool play good football and almost won us the league. Improved alot of our players notably Sturridge.But under him, Liverpool had the worst European campaigns. Went out of the CL group with only one win from a penalty. Europa league was the same. Domestic cups runs were poor. Somehow couldn't manage games when under pressure.
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Any team that had Gerrard and Suarez in it, can be made to look good. Let's wait and see. It isn't over yet
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I know. Suarez was amazing especially in 2013/14. Even Henderson looked world class playing with Gerrard and Suarez
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
So it was just the players that did it at Celtic then, not rodgers, on them alone.
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They were 3-0 up at Palace and threw it away and Gerrard fell over, how can Rodgers be blamed for that?
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Why didn’t he make a change in the palace game, close up at 3-0?
Why did he go chasing the game against Chelsea, surely a draw would have been okay.
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The biggest mistake was playing an open game against Mourinho when a draw was going to be enough. But I think he has learned from that. That looked obvious against Everton few days ago caughting Everton on the break with injury time winner after bringing in motm Iheanacho
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 55 minutes ago
What Rodgers has to prove is that he can maintain the impact he has on players over a longer period of time. At both liverpool and Celtic performances massively dropped off after the first couple of seasons and he seemed to struggle in getting players to play for him. Whether he needs to evolve his coaching or man management skills to keep players motivated and on their toes, I don't know. The first two seasons under him seem to produce great football and motivated players. Hope he stays at Leicester as I'll be really interested to see if he can maintain his impact.
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Not sure there are many managers who can actually do that, the wheels always fall off for Mourinho, they have for Pochettino, they did for Wenger, City are struggling more now under Pep and aren't anywhere near the side they were the last two seasons, perhaps Klopp will suffer the same next season. I mean after winning the Bundesliga twice Dortmund then finished 25 and 19 points behind Bayern before slipping down to 7th. I just looked that up by the way, I don't have Bundesliga knowledge off the top of my head.
Not sure why Rodgers should be singled out when it appears to be a running theme amongst managers. The only bloke that can't be said about is Fergie to be fair.
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
So it was just the players that did it at Celtic then, not rodgers, on them alone.
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They were 3-0 up at Palace and threw it away and Gerrard fell over, how can Rodgers be blamed for that?
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Why didn’t he make a change in the palace game, close up at 3-0?
Why did he go chasing the game against Chelsea, surely a draw would have been okay.
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The reason he didn't close up against Palace is because we needed a load of goals, which looked likely with how we were playing and going three up.
I wanted us to play more defensively against Chelsea as I knew they were going to sit in and counter but ultimately the team weren't really capable of that. We built from the front first to get the system working and before he could work on the defence we began losing players from the front. That's what killed him.
First we lost Suarez and then Sturridge to injury. We tried to get Sanchez in which would have been the perfect replacement for Suarez but he chose Arsenal. When Balotelli was muted Rodgers stated that he didn't want him but we signed him anyhow. We had to resort to playing a 19 year old Sterling up front on his own. He did as well as you could imagine but it wasnt enough.
It feels different at Leicester, he already had a defence and all he has had to do is put his own ideas into how they play. Obviously that has worked well.
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Rogers to Arsenal Madison to United in January. Leicester's season is pretty much dead in the water in January. You have to remember that you have to get to 40 points to stay up. Leicester are a long way off that and without Rogers and Madison, can you realistically see them getting the number of wins they require to stay up?
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Rogers to Arsenal Madison to United in January. Leicester's season is pretty much dead in the water in January. You have to remember that you have to get to 40 points to stay up. Leicester are a long way off that and without Rogers and Madison, can you realistically see them getting the number of wins they require to stay up?
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Mate he left your shiiitty pub league to come to a PL club with European ambitions, get over it
The bitterness is hilarious
Rodgers to mug Arsenal off. There is no reason why he would swap Leicester for Arsenal right now, and if I'm honest same applies to Spurs (pre Jose).
He is a great manager though, Leicester can be a force under him and continually challenge top 4 and possible title challenges.
Where I would fear for Leicester is if Utd come calling, couldn't call that one
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 14 minutes ago
Rogers to Arsenal Madison to United in January. Leicester's season is pretty much dead in the water in January. You have to remember that you have to get to 40 points to stay up. Leicester are a long way off that and without Rogers and Madison, can you realistically see them getting the number of wins they require to stay up?
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Even Puel kept us up comfortably and we won 5-0 without Maddison and Leicester also never sell players in January. What a plonker 😂
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 55 minutes ago
What Rodgers has to prove is that he can maintain the impact he has on players over a longer period of time. At both liverpool and Celtic performances massively dropped off after the first couple of seasons and he seemed to struggle in getting players to play for him. Whether he needs to evolve his coaching or man management skills to keep players motivated and on their toes, I don't know. The first two seasons under him seem to produce great football and motivated players. Hope he stays at Leicester as I'll be really interested to see if he can maintain his impact.
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Not sure there are many managers who can actually do that, the wheels always fall off for Mourinho, they have for Pochettino, they did for Wenger, City are struggling more now under Pep and aren't anywhere near the side they were the last two seasons, perhaps Klopp will suffer the same next season. I mean after winning the Bundesliga twice Dortmund then finished 25 and 19 points behind Bayern before slipping down to 7th. I just looked that up by the way, I don't have Bundesliga knowledge off the top of my head.
Not sure why Rodgers should be singled out when it appears to be a running theme amongst managers. The only bloke that can't be said about is Fergie to be fair.
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I agree. But Rodgers it happens after 2 years. Most of the others are 5 years minimum which I would say is fair enough.
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Well if it happens after two years then we'll sack him and look for another manager 😂
Rodgers can't spot a good defender or buy a good one. We always had problems with setpieces.
He is very good in coaching an attacking style but we always shipped a lot of goals.
Klopp replaced the whole Rodgers defence and goalkeeper.
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 8 hours, 34 minutes ago
When Brendan Rodgers joined Leicester there were many Celtic fans who warned he’d be off at the first opportunity. I was mentally prepared then and still am now, that his tenure here might be short if we perform well. My main hope was that he’d stay long enough to improve us and make us more stable.
I think a lot of the ‘big club’ arguments end up like a manhood measuring contest. It’s not an argument I’m interested in having. Arsenal have been, historically, a much bigger club than Leicester. Of that there is no debate.
Timing, however, is everything. If Rodgers performs here for 2-3 seasons he may well have his pick of big club options. Arsenal are currently in a state of rebuilding following a dynasty in a similar way to Man Utd. It’s a tough job that can easily ruin his carefully built reputation. His current job also gives him an outside possibility of winning trophies without the pressure of having to.
The counter argument is one that suggests he should cash in whilst his star is high. He might not get another opportunity. Again in the case of Arsenal the gap to what he could achieve there as opposed to what he could do at Leicester is not a big as it was - at least in the short term. It’s a dangerous jump especially when there may be safer options on the horizon.
Considering when he left Celtic and his obvious ambition I think we’d be naive to think it couldn’t happen at Leicester, but I actually believe it’s not all about the manager. We’ve been building something here with these owners for a while now and there is a great deal of infrastructure in place. Despite being a smaller club we are better run than many of the traditional top six. We’ve continued to thrive despite the loss of many managers including the most successful ones (Pearson, Ranieri). Football isn’t all about the manager anymore like it was in the days of: Clough, Paisley, Ferguson or Wenger. Backroom interferences can starve the development of a club. Rodger’s feels like the latest player in a story that started before he’d arrived and will finish long after he’s gone.
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I agree we've been building something for many years but the manager certainly makes a difference - do you seriously believe we'd be second in the league, on a run of 6 wins on the spin and with Vardy scoring for fun if we were still playing Puelball?
Did Rodgers turn us down? We’ve apparently been talking to Mourinho for a month before we hired him
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posted on 3/12/19
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
When Brendan Rodgers joined Leicester there were many Celtic fans who warned he’d be off at the first opportunity. I was mentally prepared then and still am now, that his tenure here might be short if we perform well. My main hope was that he’d stay long enough to improve us and make us more stable.
I think a lot of the ‘big club’ arguments end up like a manhood measuring contest. It’s not an argument I’m interested in having. Arsenal have been, historically, a much bigger club than Leicester. Of that there is no debate.
Timing, however, is everything. If Rodgers performs here for 2-3 seasons he may well have his pick of big club options. Arsenal are currently in a state of rebuilding following a dynasty in a similar way to Man Utd. It’s a tough job that can easily ruin his carefully built reputation. His current job also gives him an outside possibility of winning trophies without the pressure of having to.
The counter argument is one that suggests he should cash in whilst his star is high. He might not get another opportunity. Again in the case of Arsenal the gap to what he could achieve there as opposed to what he could do at Leicester is not a big as it was - at least in the short term. It’s a dangerous jump especially when there may be safer options on the horizon.
Considering when he left Celtic and his obvious ambition I think we’d be naive to think it couldn’t happen at Leicester, but I actually believe it’s not all about the manager. We’ve been building something here with these owners for a while now and there is a great deal of infrastructure in place. Despite being a smaller club we are better run than many of the traditional top six. We’ve continued to thrive despite the loss of many managers including the most successful ones (Pearson, Ranieri). Football isn’t all about the manager anymore like it was in the days of: Clough, Paisley, Ferguson or Wenger. Backroom interferences can starve the development of a club. Rodger’s feels like the latest player in a story that started before he’d arrived and will finish long after he’s gone.
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This is a well reasoned post. Pity Arro doesn’t have the IQ to understand it
posted on 3/12/19
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
When Brendan Rodgers joined Leicester there were many Celtic fans who warned he’d be off at the first opportunity. I was mentally prepared then and still am now, that his tenure here might be short if we perform well. My main hope was that he’d stay long enough to improve us and make us more stable.
I think a lot of the ‘big club’ arguments end up like a manhood measuring contest. It’s not an argument I’m interested in having. Arsenal have been, historically, a much bigger club than Leicester. Of that there is no debate.
Timing, however, is everything. If Rodgers performs here for 2-3 seasons he may well have his pick of big club options. Arsenal are currently in a state of rebuilding following a dynasty in a similar way to Man Utd. It’s a tough job that can easily ruin his carefully built reputation. His current job also gives him an outside possibility of winning trophies without the pressure of having to.
The counter argument is one that suggests he should cash in whilst his star is high. He might not get another opportunity. Again in the case of Arsenal the gap to what he could achieve there as opposed to what he could do at Leicester is not a big as it was - at least in the short term. It’s a dangerous jump especially when there may be safer options on the horizon.
Considering when he left Celtic and his obvious ambition I think we’d be naive to think it couldn’t happen at Leicester, but I actually believe it’s not all about the manager. We’ve been building something here with these owners for a while now and there is a great deal of infrastructure in place. Despite being a smaller club we are better run than many of the traditional top six. We’ve continued to thrive despite the loss of many managers including the most successful ones (Pearson, Ranieri). Football isn’t all about the manager anymore like it was in the days of: Clough, Paisley, Ferguson or Wenger. Backroom interferences can starve the development of a club. Rodger’s feels like the latest player in a story that started before he’d arrived and will finish long after he’s gone.
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This is a well reasoned post. Pity Arro doesn’t have the IQ to understand it
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I did understand it and I said good post and then went on to say that at some point he will move on but at some point Klopp and Pep will move on because that's what managers do. Celtic fans assured us that he would jump ship at the first opportunity and clearly that's not the case. It quickly became clear that he wasn't interested in Spurs and has now distanced himself from the Arsenal job so all this patter about him jumping ship at the first opportunity is bollox.
posted on 3/12/19
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posted on 3/12/19
Have Arsenal appointed someone and I missed it?
Enjoy him at Leicester while he's there.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 26 minutes ago
Have Arsenal appointed someone and I missed it?
Enjoy him at Leicester while he's there.
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posted on 3/12/19
Rodgers made Liverpool play good football and almost won us the league. Improved alot of our players notably Sturridge.But under him, Liverpool had the worst European campaigns. Went out of the CL group with only one win from a penalty. Europa league was the same. Domestic cups runs were poor. Somehow couldn't manage games when under pressure.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 28 minutes ago
What Rodgers has to prove is that he can maintain the impact he has on players over a longer period of time. At both liverpool and Celtic performances massively dropped off after the first couple of seasons and he seemed to struggle in getting players to play for him. Whether he needs to evolve his coaching or man management skills to keep players motivated and on their toes, I don't know. The first two seasons under him seem to produce great football and motivated players. Hope he stays at Leicester as I'll be really interested to see if he can maintain his impact.
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I think this is a very good post.
Rodgers issues tend to start manifesting themselves after the first couple of seasons. The football slows down, the intensity drops and his teams start becoming pedestrian and struggling to find a way to break teams down.
When that happened at Celtic he took the opportunity at Leicester - will be interesting to see if that’s because he couldn’t get any more out of the limited talent pool he had at Celtic or if it’s the sign of something else
posted on 3/12/19
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 9 minutes ago
The Man Utd job is the one that worries me. Arsenal doesn’t look like an attractive job right now, plus Man Utd always have millions upon millions available to spend. They’re a true giant, ready to get behind the right manager.
Whether Man U would go for him, I don’t know. Ed Woodward’s judgement is not renowned as being predictable.
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Yeah that would worry me too if I thought they'd go for him but I think they'd go for a bigger name. They made a huge mistake with Ole and I don't think they'd be looking to make the same mistake again. A massive club with huge funds available unlike Arsenal and Spurs would certainly be more attractive.
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Yeah, he would love it more at United. At least he'll get the ropey league and the 6th place league position with them
posted on 3/12/19
comment by LAMCAM♠ (U18537)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rodgers made Liverpool play good football and almost won us the league. Improved alot of our players notably Sturridge.But under him, Liverpool had the worst European campaigns. Went out of the CL group with only one win from a penalty. Europa league was the same. Domestic cups runs were poor. Somehow couldn't manage games when under pressure.
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Any team that had Gerrard and Suarez in it, can be made to look good. Let's wait and see. It isn't over yet
posted on 3/12/19
comment by LAMCAM♠ (U18537)
posted 1 minute ago
Rodgers made Liverpool play good football and almost won us the league. Improved alot of our players notably Sturridge.But under him, Liverpool had the worst European campaigns. Went out of the CL group with only one win from a penalty. Europa league was the same. Domestic cups runs were poor. Somehow couldn't manage games when under pressure.
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And I think good coaches and managers can be noted when they chang players without affecting the effectiveness and performance of the team. He couldn't do that.
posted on 3/12/19
Arsenal or United should go for Ancelotti. Looks like he will be available in the summer. Top coach. Doesnt need to spend to succeed
posted on 3/12/19
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
So it was just the players that did it at Celtic then, not rodgers, on them alone.
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They were 3-0 up at Palace and threw it away and Gerrard fell over, how can Rodgers be blamed for that?
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Why didn’t he make a change in the palace game, close up at 3-0?
Why did he go chasing the game against Chelsea, surely a draw would have been okay.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LAMCAM♠ (U18537)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rodgers made Liverpool play good football and almost won us the league. Improved alot of our players notably Sturridge.But under him, Liverpool had the worst European campaigns. Went out of the CL group with only one win from a penalty. Europa league was the same. Domestic cups runs were poor. Somehow couldn't manage games when under pressure.
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Any team that had Gerrard and Suarez in it, can be made to look good. Let's wait and see. It isn't over yet
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I know. Suarez was amazing especially in 2013/14. Even Henderson looked world class playing with Gerrard and Suarez
posted on 3/12/19
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
So it was just the players that did it at Celtic then, not rodgers, on them alone.
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They were 3-0 up at Palace and threw it away and Gerrard fell over, how can Rodgers be blamed for that?
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Why didn’t he make a change in the palace game, close up at 3-0?
Why did he go chasing the game against Chelsea, surely a draw would have been okay.
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The biggest mistake was playing an open game against Mourinho when a draw was going to be enough. But I think he has learned from that. That looked obvious against Everton few days ago caughting Everton on the break with injury time winner after bringing in motm Iheanacho
posted on 3/12/19
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 55 minutes ago
What Rodgers has to prove is that he can maintain the impact he has on players over a longer period of time. At both liverpool and Celtic performances massively dropped off after the first couple of seasons and he seemed to struggle in getting players to play for him. Whether he needs to evolve his coaching or man management skills to keep players motivated and on their toes, I don't know. The first two seasons under him seem to produce great football and motivated players. Hope he stays at Leicester as I'll be really interested to see if he can maintain his impact.
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Not sure there are many managers who can actually do that, the wheels always fall off for Mourinho, they have for Pochettino, they did for Wenger, City are struggling more now under Pep and aren't anywhere near the side they were the last two seasons, perhaps Klopp will suffer the same next season. I mean after winning the Bundesliga twice Dortmund then finished 25 and 19 points behind Bayern before slipping down to 7th. I just looked that up by the way, I don't have Bundesliga knowledge off the top of my head.
Not sure why Rodgers should be singled out when it appears to be a running theme amongst managers. The only bloke that can't be said about is Fergie to be fair.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
So it was just the players that did it at Celtic then, not rodgers, on them alone.
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They were 3-0 up at Palace and threw it away and Gerrard fell over, how can Rodgers be blamed for that?
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Why didn’t he make a change in the palace game, close up at 3-0?
Why did he go chasing the game against Chelsea, surely a draw would have been okay.
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The reason he didn't close up against Palace is because we needed a load of goals, which looked likely with how we were playing and going three up.
I wanted us to play more defensively against Chelsea as I knew they were going to sit in and counter but ultimately the team weren't really capable of that. We built from the front first to get the system working and before he could work on the defence we began losing players from the front. That's what killed him.
First we lost Suarez and then Sturridge to injury. We tried to get Sanchez in which would have been the perfect replacement for Suarez but he chose Arsenal. When Balotelli was muted Rodgers stated that he didn't want him but we signed him anyhow. We had to resort to playing a 19 year old Sterling up front on his own. He did as well as you could imagine but it wasnt enough.
It feels different at Leicester, he already had a defence and all he has had to do is put his own ideas into how they play. Obviously that has worked well.
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Rogers to Arsenal Madison to United in January. Leicester's season is pretty much dead in the water in January. You have to remember that you have to get to 40 points to stay up. Leicester are a long way off that and without Rogers and Madison, can you realistically see them getting the number of wins they require to stay up?
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comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Rogers to Arsenal Madison to United in January. Leicester's season is pretty much dead in the water in January. You have to remember that you have to get to 40 points to stay up. Leicester are a long way off that and without Rogers and Madison, can you realistically see them getting the number of wins they require to stay up?
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Mate he left your shiiitty pub league to come to a PL club with European ambitions, get over it
The bitterness is hilarious
posted on 3/12/19
Rodgers to mug Arsenal off. There is no reason why he would swap Leicester for Arsenal right now, and if I'm honest same applies to Spurs (pre Jose).
He is a great manager though, Leicester can be a force under him and continually challenge top 4 and possible title challenges.
Where I would fear for Leicester is if Utd come calling, couldn't call that one
posted on 3/12/19
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 14 minutes ago
Rogers to Arsenal Madison to United in January. Leicester's season is pretty much dead in the water in January. You have to remember that you have to get to 40 points to stay up. Leicester are a long way off that and without Rogers and Madison, can you realistically see them getting the number of wins they require to stay up?
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Even Puel kept us up comfortably and we won 5-0 without Maddison and Leicester also never sell players in January. What a plonker 😂
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What Rodgers has to prove is that he can maintain the impact he has on players over a longer period of time. At both liverpool and Celtic performances massively dropped off after the first couple of seasons and he seemed to struggle in getting players to play for him. Whether he needs to evolve his coaching or man management skills to keep players motivated and on their toes, I don't know. The first two seasons under him seem to produce great football and motivated players. Hope he stays at Leicester as I'll be really interested to see if he can maintain his impact.
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Not sure there are many managers who can actually do that, the wheels always fall off for Mourinho, they have for Pochettino, they did for Wenger, City are struggling more now under Pep and aren't anywhere near the side they were the last two seasons, perhaps Klopp will suffer the same next season. I mean after winning the Bundesliga twice Dortmund then finished 25 and 19 points behind Bayern before slipping down to 7th. I just looked that up by the way, I don't have Bundesliga knowledge off the top of my head.
Not sure why Rodgers should be singled out when it appears to be a running theme amongst managers. The only bloke that can't be said about is Fergie to be fair.
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I agree. But Rodgers it happens after 2 years. Most of the others are 5 years minimum which I would say is fair enough.
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Well if it happens after two years then we'll sack him and look for another manager 😂
posted on 3/12/19
Rodgers can't spot a good defender or buy a good one. We always had problems with setpieces.
He is very good in coaching an attacking style but we always shipped a lot of goals.
Klopp replaced the whole Rodgers defence and goalkeeper.
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comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 8 hours, 34 minutes ago
When Brendan Rodgers joined Leicester there were many Celtic fans who warned he’d be off at the first opportunity. I was mentally prepared then and still am now, that his tenure here might be short if we perform well. My main hope was that he’d stay long enough to improve us and make us more stable.
I think a lot of the ‘big club’ arguments end up like a manhood measuring contest. It’s not an argument I’m interested in having. Arsenal have been, historically, a much bigger club than Leicester. Of that there is no debate.
Timing, however, is everything. If Rodgers performs here for 2-3 seasons he may well have his pick of big club options. Arsenal are currently in a state of rebuilding following a dynasty in a similar way to Man Utd. It’s a tough job that can easily ruin his carefully built reputation. His current job also gives him an outside possibility of winning trophies without the pressure of having to.
The counter argument is one that suggests he should cash in whilst his star is high. He might not get another opportunity. Again in the case of Arsenal the gap to what he could achieve there as opposed to what he could do at Leicester is not a big as it was - at least in the short term. It’s a dangerous jump especially when there may be safer options on the horizon.
Considering when he left Celtic and his obvious ambition I think we’d be naive to think it couldn’t happen at Leicester, but I actually believe it’s not all about the manager. We’ve been building something here with these owners for a while now and there is a great deal of infrastructure in place. Despite being a smaller club we are better run than many of the traditional top six. We’ve continued to thrive despite the loss of many managers including the most successful ones (Pearson, Ranieri). Football isn’t all about the manager anymore like it was in the days of: Clough, Paisley, Ferguson or Wenger. Backroom interferences can starve the development of a club. Rodger’s feels like the latest player in a story that started before he’d arrived and will finish long after he’s gone.
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I agree we've been building something for many years but the manager certainly makes a difference - do you seriously believe we'd be second in the league, on a run of 6 wins on the spin and with Vardy scoring for fun if we were still playing Puelball?
posted on 3/12/19
Did Rodgers turn us down? We’ve apparently been talking to Mourinho for a month before we hired him
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