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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
White people are just people and not handed some silver spoon as we see from the punk generation, World Wars, poll tax riots, civil wars in Ireland, the miners strike, the left behind in English towns, the poor in Glasgow nd Scotland,Turning to drugs and knives, gang war in Ireland weekly now, the demise of Liverpool and Blackpool and north east.
White trash in America and Russia and Europe.
Maybe, we just don't walk I each other's shoes enough.
As a white guy in NI, I had to go to London for work and leave family and friends, as did many mates and Scots and Welsh guys.
It's not some easy ride and for working class white people,the idea we ate privileged is racist and insulting.
Might apply to bojo or jezza but not me and most I know.
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You’re still completely missing the point.
And denying white privilege exists is part of the problem.
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I am not denying past white privilege and it's limited impact today.
But, it is not for all whites.
That is just silly political dogma.
Why would an employer now not employ a black person.
And pick a white instead?
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Because they hate black people?
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Do you think there are black people who are bosses that don’t hire white people because they hate them?
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Cheers, more effort than i fancy putting in but good to know
I know what ya mean, I've done it before when had lost all interest in the thread
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 5 hours, 24 minutes ago
OK so been reading the comments since I made the comment a few hours ago, interesting debate, here's how I see white privilege, just my own view and sorry if this gets long I'm the guts of a bottle of red deep so at optimum listen to me mode
It's a western thing, it can't not be as it specifically realates to western society which was built by white people in their image.
So you've got to first look at how the west was built, and why so many andvances in medicene, technology, science in general have come from the west. The ability to actually do this stems from wealth, the very notion of a scientist exists in a place where it has the ability to be a thing, like if all you're doing is living day to day how can you create the environment where someone csn spend money on research, its not going to happen.
So the west's wealth is built off the back of colonisation, Europe went to particularly Africa and helped itself through subjugation of the native people, natural resources were taken back and therefore the west gave itself the opportunity and environment to thrive, this led to the industrial revolution where really this all begins.
So now the west is thriving and really the leaders in the modern world, they've done this through subjugation and now are building the modern Western world, the key point here is its being built in a mindset where the white man is king and the one building it, other races have been used and abused to create this situation.
So we in the west live in this world, that was built by white men, the non white people were seen as subordinate when it was being built and our modern society reflects this.
The idea that one race is superior is simply not true, there's countless examples but one that's always stuck with me is a native American lad who read a simple math text book and from this was able to write the most complex mathamatical equations based off just basic math.
So we exist in a world that is shaped by white people, built for white people off the backs of non whites. This is where white privilege comes from. We're inherently designed to see the west through a white lens, if the world we live in originally was created through subjugation then its not a stretch to suggest the white man has a leg up, the very institutions we live by today are fundamentaly designed for the white man and this keeps the non white person down.
Things are changing now, as a species we're more civilised, subjugation isn't accepted and non white people in the west are finding their voice. But we still have the legacy of how our world was built and the prejudices that come with that.
This in essence is white privilege.
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Absolutely. Colonisation is the single biggest theft of resources, wealth and man power in history.
In some ways what you describe here is still going on. Products and services from former colonies tend to be cheap whereas its not the same the other way around. For instance, agriculture in the west is heavily subsidised and directly competing with agriculture in poorer countries where subsidies are a pipe dream.t5
Farmers getting about one quarter of a dollar for a kilo of coffee beans on the international market and would need to sell a years worth of coffee beans to afford a 32 inch flat screen TV. Good luck picking up economic momentum under those conditions.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-immigration-idUSKBN1ZH0MO
Yeah, f*ck business, we have the spiteful racists to appease.
How vile.
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comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 hours, 26 minutes ago
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-immigration-idUSKBN1ZH0MO
Yeah, f*ck business, we have the spiteful racists to appease.
How vile.
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You have to have some controls over who gets into the country. You sound like you’d have none at all.
How would that work exactly?
And no it’s not racist to suggest everyone should be free to go where they want.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 hours, 26 minutes ago
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-immigration-idUSKBN1ZH0MO
Yeah, f*ck business, we have the spiteful racists to appease.
How vile.
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You have to have some controls over who gets into the country. You sound like you’d have none at all.
How would that work exactly?
And no it’s not racist to suggest everyone should be free to go where they want.
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What?
I just can’t fathom why anybody would be against free movement of people or why they would want less rights and freedoms for themselves and their families.
I think it’s quite obvious.
Every country in the world has limits on allowing just anyone to cross their borders.
Your way would have everyone just move to what they perceive as “better” or “richer” and be as entitled to everything that country has to offer from the minute they freely walk over that line. That is plainly unsustainable and unworkable.
Only racists are against the free movement of people. Fact.
Funny how practically every business is against restricting the free movement of people and now Sajid Javid has come out and said “not every business will benefit from Brexit”
YA THINK?
And yes you’re right, I don’t have a problem with people moving country to find a better life for themselves and their families.
Maybe that’s because I’m not a massive f*cking racist.
I see
So how would our country cope for example should we be landed with 5 million immigrants who came freely to our country with no money, no job and in the main have very few skills?
In your own time
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
Priti Patel says we want to attract “the brightest and the best”
Stupid cow, why would the brightest and the best want to come here ffs?
What’s the advert gonna be? Come to the UK and wipe some racist pensioners ar$e for minimum wage
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
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Yes it’s that number because it’s controlled. Not very well.
But you still haven’t answered as to how we would cope. Let’s make it 2 million unfettered access.
Every single country in the entire world must be inherently racist as they all have borders and all have controls.
The EU also has controls, they're just not suitable to some people in the UK. Some want extra controls which the EU is not willing to allow and the EU has its reasons for that.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
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Yes it’s that number because it’s controlled. Not very well.
But you still haven’t answered as to how we would cope. Let’s make it 2 million unfettered access.
Every single country in the entire world must be inherently racist as they all have borders and all have controls.
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When have we NOT had borders and controls?
What the f*ck do you think our border staff and immigration officers do all day?
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 19 seconds ago
The EU also has controls, they're just not suitable to some people in the UK. Some want extra controls which the EU is not willing to allow and the EU has its reasons for that.
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The Four Freedoms.
Free movement of Goods, Capital, Services and Persons.
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comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The EU also has controls, they're just not suitable to some people in the UK. Some want extra controls which the EU is not willing to allow and the EU has its reasons for that.
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We won’t be part of the EU soon and we need to have our own controls. I’d imagine they would be what we believe best suits our country.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
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Yes it’s that number because it’s controlled. Not very well.
But you still haven’t answered as to how we would cope. Let’s make it 2 million unfettered access.
Every single country in the entire world must be inherently racist as they all have borders and all have controls.
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When have we NOT had borders and controls?
What the f*ck do you think our border staff and immigration officers do all day?
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Sorry?
You’re simply stating the obvious. We all know that. As I’ve said, every country has border controls and controlled immigration.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The EU also has controls, they're just not suitable to some people in the UK. Some want extra controls which the EU is not willing to allow and the EU has its reasons for that.
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We won’t be part of the EU soon and we need to have our own controls. I’d imagine they would be what we believe best suits our country.
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What “we” believe?
No, the government will pander to the racists and the xenophobes even though that means cutting off our nose to spite their face.
No wonder they want people to work until they are 75 and for pensioners to work for their benefits. Those f*cking potato’s and strawberry’s ain’t gonna pick themselves.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it’s that number because it’s controlled. Not very well.
But you still haven’t answered as to how we would cope. Let’s make it 2 million unfettered access.
Every single country in the entire world must be inherently racist as they all have borders and all have controls.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When have we NOT had borders and controls?
What the f*ck do you think our border staff and immigration officers do all day?
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Sorry?
You’re simply stating the obvious. We all know that. As I’ve said, every country has border controls and controlled immigration.
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Sizzle having an even bigger shocker that normal. To suggest we should have unrestricted access is as mad as it gets. The country’s infrastructure would collapse in a very short space of time.
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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
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comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
White people are just people and not handed some silver spoon as we see from the punk generation, World Wars, poll tax riots, civil wars in Ireland, the miners strike, the left behind in English towns, the poor in Glasgow nd Scotland,Turning to drugs and knives, gang war in Ireland weekly now, the demise of Liverpool and Blackpool and north east.
White trash in America and Russia and Europe.
Maybe, we just don't walk I each other's shoes enough.
As a white guy in NI, I had to go to London for work and leave family and friends, as did many mates and Scots and Welsh guys.
It's not some easy ride and for working class white people,the idea we ate privileged is racist and insulting.
Might apply to bojo or jezza but not me and most I know.
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You’re still completely missing the point.
And denying white privilege exists is part of the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am not denying past white privilege and it's limited impact today.
But, it is not for all whites.
That is just silly political dogma.
Why would an employer now not employ a black person.
And pick a white instead?
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Because they hate black people?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think there are black people who are bosses that don’t hire white people because they hate them?
posted on 18/1/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
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Cheers, more effort than i fancy putting in but good to know
posted on 18/1/20
I know what ya mean, I've done it before when had lost all interest in the thread
posted on 19/1/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 5 hours, 24 minutes ago
OK so been reading the comments since I made the comment a few hours ago, interesting debate, here's how I see white privilege, just my own view and sorry if this gets long I'm the guts of a bottle of red deep so at optimum listen to me mode
It's a western thing, it can't not be as it specifically realates to western society which was built by white people in their image.
So you've got to first look at how the west was built, and why so many andvances in medicene, technology, science in general have come from the west. The ability to actually do this stems from wealth, the very notion of a scientist exists in a place where it has the ability to be a thing, like if all you're doing is living day to day how can you create the environment where someone csn spend money on research, its not going to happen.
So the west's wealth is built off the back of colonisation, Europe went to particularly Africa and helped itself through subjugation of the native people, natural resources were taken back and therefore the west gave itself the opportunity and environment to thrive, this led to the industrial revolution where really this all begins.
So now the west is thriving and really the leaders in the modern world, they've done this through subjugation and now are building the modern Western world, the key point here is its being built in a mindset where the white man is king and the one building it, other races have been used and abused to create this situation.
So we in the west live in this world, that was built by white men, the non white people were seen as subordinate when it was being built and our modern society reflects this.
The idea that one race is superior is simply not true, there's countless examples but one that's always stuck with me is a native American lad who read a simple math text book and from this was able to write the most complex mathamatical equations based off just basic math.
So we exist in a world that is shaped by white people, built for white people off the backs of non whites. This is where white privilege comes from. We're inherently designed to see the west through a white lens, if the world we live in originally was created through subjugation then its not a stretch to suggest the white man has a leg up, the very institutions we live by today are fundamentaly designed for the white man and this keeps the non white person down.
Things are changing now, as a species we're more civilised, subjugation isn't accepted and non white people in the west are finding their voice. But we still have the legacy of how our world was built and the prejudices that come with that.
This in essence is white privilege.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Absolutely. Colonisation is the single biggest theft of resources, wealth and man power in history.
In some ways what you describe here is still going on. Products and services from former colonies tend to be cheap whereas its not the same the other way around. For instance, agriculture in the west is heavily subsidised and directly competing with agriculture in poorer countries where subsidies are a pipe dream.t5
Farmers getting about one quarter of a dollar for a kilo of coffee beans on the international market and would need to sell a years worth of coffee beans to afford a 32 inch flat screen TV. Good luck picking up economic momentum under those conditions.
posted on 19/1/20
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-immigration-idUSKBN1ZH0MO
Yeah, f*ck business, we have the spiteful racists to appease.
How vile.
posted on 19/1/20
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posted on 19/1/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 hours, 26 minutes ago
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-immigration-idUSKBN1ZH0MO
Yeah, f*ck business, we have the spiteful racists to appease.
How vile.
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You have to have some controls over who gets into the country. You sound like you’d have none at all.
How would that work exactly?
And no it’s not racist to suggest everyone should be free to go where they want.
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 hours, 26 minutes ago
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-immigration-idUSKBN1ZH0MO
Yeah, f*ck business, we have the spiteful racists to appease.
How vile.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You have to have some controls over who gets into the country. You sound like you’d have none at all.
How would that work exactly?
And no it’s not racist to suggest everyone should be free to go where they want.
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What?
posted on 19/1/20
I just can’t fathom why anybody would be against free movement of people or why they would want less rights and freedoms for themselves and their families.
posted on 19/1/20
I think it’s quite obvious.
Every country in the world has limits on allowing just anyone to cross their borders.
Your way would have everyone just move to what they perceive as “better” or “richer” and be as entitled to everything that country has to offer from the minute they freely walk over that line. That is plainly unsustainable and unworkable.
posted on 19/1/20
Only racists are against the free movement of people. Fact.
Funny how practically every business is against restricting the free movement of people and now Sajid Javid has come out and said “not every business will benefit from Brexit”
YA THINK?
posted on 19/1/20
And yes you’re right, I don’t have a problem with people moving country to find a better life for themselves and their families.
Maybe that’s because I’m not a massive f*cking racist.
posted on 19/1/20
I see
So how would our country cope for example should we be landed with 5 million immigrants who came freely to our country with no money, no job and in the main have very few skills?
In your own time
posted on 19/1/20
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
posted on 19/1/20
Priti Patel says we want to attract “the brightest and the best”
Stupid cow, why would the brightest and the best want to come here ffs?
What’s the advert gonna be? Come to the UK and wipe some racist pensioners ar$e for minimum wage
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it’s that number because it’s controlled. Not very well.
But you still haven’t answered as to how we would cope. Let’s make it 2 million unfettered access.
Every single country in the entire world must be inherently racist as they all have borders and all have controls.
posted on 19/1/20
The EU also has controls, they're just not suitable to some people in the UK. Some want extra controls which the EU is not willing to allow and the EU has its reasons for that.
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it’s that number because it’s controlled. Not very well.
But you still haven’t answered as to how we would cope. Let’s make it 2 million unfettered access.
Every single country in the entire world must be inherently racist as they all have borders and all have controls.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When have we NOT had borders and controls?
What the f*ck do you think our border staff and immigration officers do all day?
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 19 seconds ago
The EU also has controls, they're just not suitable to some people in the UK. Some want extra controls which the EU is not willing to allow and the EU has its reasons for that.
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The Four Freedoms.
Free movement of Goods, Capital, Services and Persons.
posted on 19/1/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The EU also has controls, they're just not suitable to some people in the UK. Some want extra controls which the EU is not willing to allow and the EU has its reasons for that.
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We won’t be part of the EU soon and we need to have our own controls. I’d imagine they would be what we believe best suits our country.
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it’s that number because it’s controlled. Not very well.
But you still haven’t answered as to how we would cope. Let’s make it 2 million unfettered access.
Every single country in the entire world must be inherently racist as they all have borders and all have controls.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When have we NOT had borders and controls?
What the f*ck do you think our border staff and immigration officers do all day?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry?
You’re simply stating the obvious. We all know that. As I’ve said, every country has border controls and controlled immigration.
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The EU also has controls, they're just not suitable to some people in the UK. Some want extra controls which the EU is not willing to allow and the EU has its reasons for that.
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We won’t be part of the EU soon and we need to have our own controls. I’d imagine they would be what we believe best suits our country.
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What “we” believe?
No, the government will pander to the racists and the xenophobes even though that means cutting off our nose to spite their face.
No wonder they want people to work until they are 75 and for pensioners to work for their benefits. Those f*cking potato’s and strawberry’s ain’t gonna pick themselves.
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
You sound like Nigel Farage.
Do you have his racist “we are full” poster up in your house?
Net immigration is about 200’000 so don’t worry, we’re not being “invaded” by a “swarm”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it’s that number because it’s controlled. Not very well.
But you still haven’t answered as to how we would cope. Let’s make it 2 million unfettered access.
Every single country in the entire world must be inherently racist as they all have borders and all have controls.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When have we NOT had borders and controls?
What the f*ck do you think our border staff and immigration officers do all day?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry?
You’re simply stating the obvious. We all know that. As I’ve said, every country has border controls and controlled immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sizzle having an even bigger shocker that normal. To suggest we should have unrestricted access is as mad as it gets. The country’s infrastructure would collapse in a very short space of time.
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