Wish him well but he can’t be surprised after shaking hands with Covid patients and would ‘continue to do so ‘
Then his pregnant girlfriend and a few other MPs all passing it around amongst each other.
This whole thing has been a clusterfack
It’s scary tbh how easily and far we have allowed our country to fall and be exposed.
I swear even that kn ob Piersy Morgz was shouting on twitter about it a month or two ago
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posted 38 seconds ago
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Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
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The whole point was timing the interventions according to our individual curve of infection rates. Do the lockdowns too early, people get bored, leave their houses and start spreading the virus when you need them to stick to the rules the most. No one wants a lockdown that goes on for months - if you time it too early that could happen. Time the interventions accordingly - that’s what the leading behavioural scientists say, that’s what the medical officers say - and when you time the interventions - ensure it’s fully enforced if you can
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Yeah, had nothing to do with their herd immunity strategy.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 21 seconds ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
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It's not nonsense about Australia, in the same way it's not nonsense about Thailand for the same reason and Japan has been going around as normal and it's only in the past few weeks it's being looked at.
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You incorrectly said it was boiling hot in Australia
It’s barely hotter than England right now
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https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/today/l/-33.87,151.21?par=google&temp=c
Sydney as an example is getting British summer or spring weather. So what are you talking about?
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posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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Don’t be such a cat, it causes I’ll health
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comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
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Strange response. Tell everyone they didn't say the things they are saying now 3 weeks ago and they are only doing so with hindsight; then when it is pointed out they were, move it on to saying they need to have an exit strategy.
The exit strategy is always going to be the vaccine. What we are talking about now is the containment strategy in the mean time. It was clear looking at the curves of other nations that infections and deaths double every few days and also that the incubation time means there is a two week delay between taking action and numbers peaking. Lockdown and social distancing measures need to be taken as soon as a trend increase appears and be pre-emptive; not reactionary to a high escalation as by that time it is too late.
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I haven’t seen any posts from 4 weeks ago which advocated a nationwide lockdown, increased testing and PPE for all nhs staff. If people were saying that then that’s very good foresight. But I think some people are actually speaking in hindsight - it happens a lot when a huge crisis happens
What I’m saying to these medical experts on 606 is if they called this epidemic absolutely right - then please use that brilliant strategic thinking to devise an exit strategy that doesn’t revolve around locking the country down until we get a vaccine - by which time we won’t have a country left
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posted 1 minute ago
Btw make no mistake the world is going to go into the biggest recession since the great depression in the 1920's once this is all over. We were already heading for a worldwide recession before this thing hit. If we all hopefully get through this alive, it's going to be a shiiit show. However, I have feeling the world in the main is going to be happy to be alive once all this is over. I think people are going to care more about each other and family once it's done.
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There's stories every day of countries hijacking medical supplies enroute to different nations.
Desperately needed cargo and airfreight literally being commandeered through government decree or economic might.
There will be quite a few grudges to settle when all this is over.
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posted 11 seconds ago
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posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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Don’t be such a cat, it causes I’ll health
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Someone is going to wake up with regret
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posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 21 seconds ago
Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
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The whole point was timing the interventions according to our individual curve of infection rates. Do the lockdowns too early, people get bored, leave their houses and start spreading the virus when you need them to stick to the rules the most. No one wants a lockdown that goes on for months - if you time it too early that could happen. Time the interventions accordingly - that’s what the leading behavioural scientists say, that’s what the medical officers say - and when you time the interventions - ensure it’s fully enforced if you can
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Yeah, had nothing to do with their herd immunity strategy.
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Herd immunity will happen naturally. That is the end game until vaccine is in place. The steps the govt followed is to help the NHS
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posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
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Strange response. Tell everyone they didn't say the things they are saying now 3 weeks ago and they are only doing so with hindsight; then when it is pointed out they were, move it on to saying they need to have an exit strategy.
The exit strategy is always going to be the vaccine. What we are talking about now is the containment strategy in the mean time. It was clear looking at the curves of other nations that infections and deaths double every few days and also that the incubation time means there is a two week delay between taking action and numbers peaking. Lockdown and social distancing measures need to be taken as soon as a trend increase appears and be pre-emptive; not reactionary to a high escalation as by that time it is too late.
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I haven’t seen any posts from 4 weeks ago which advocated a nationwide lockdown, increased testing and PPE for all nhs staff. If people were saying that then that’s very good foresight. But I think some people are actually speaking in hindsight - it happens a lot when a huge crisis happens
What I’m saying to these medical experts on 606 is if they called this epidemic absolutely right - then please use that brilliant strategic thinking to devise an exit strategy that doesn’t revolve around locking the country down until we get a vaccine - by which time we won’t have a country left
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Keep moving the goalposts.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 6 seconds ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
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It's not nonsense about Australia, in the same way it's not nonsense about Thailand for the same reason and Japan has been going around as normal and it's only in the past few weeks it's being looked at.
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You incorrectly said it was boiling hot in Australia
It’s barely hotter than England right now
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https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/today/l/-33.87,151.21?par=google&temp=c
Sydney as an example is getting British summer or spring weather. So what are you talking about?
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It’s 18 degrees in Sydney - hardly hot.
The average summer temp there is late 20s
So it’s not exactly a case of hot Australia ‘burning my away the virus
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posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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Don’t be such a cat, it causes I’ll health
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Someone is going to wake up with regret
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If you know 606.....
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 21 seconds ago
Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
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The whole point was timing the interventions according to our individual curve of infection rates. Do the lockdowns too early, people get bored, leave their houses and start spreading the virus when you need them to stick to the rules the most. No one wants a lockdown that goes on for months - if you time it too early that could happen. Time the interventions accordingly - that’s what the leading behavioural scientists say, that’s what the medical officers say - and when you time the interventions - ensure it’s fully enforced if you can
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Yeah, had nothing to do with their herd immunity strategy.
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Herd immunity was never a government strategy. It’s takes about 3 years to get that. It was mentioned as a consequence and then leaped on by the media in my opinion
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posted 1 minute ago
Btw make no mistake the world is going to go into the biggest recession since the great depression in the 1920's once this is all over. We were already heading for a worldwide recession before this thing hit. If we all hopefully get through this alive, it's going to be a shiiit show. However, I have feeling the world in the main is going to be happy to be alive once all this is over. I think people are going to care more about each other and family once it's done.
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There's stories every day of countries hijacking medical supplies enroute to different nations.
Desperately needed cargo and airfreight literally being commandeered through government decree or economic might.
There will be quite a few grudges to settle when all this is over.
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Very true.
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posted 8 seconds ago
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posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
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Strange response. Tell everyone they didn't say the things they are saying now 3 weeks ago and they are only doing so with hindsight; then when it is pointed out they were, move it on to saying they need to have an exit strategy.
The exit strategy is always going to be the vaccine. What we are talking about now is the containment strategy in the mean time. It was clear looking at the curves of other nations that infections and deaths double every few days and also that the incubation time means there is a two week delay between taking action and numbers peaking. Lockdown and social distancing measures need to be taken as soon as a trend increase appears and be pre-emptive; not reactionary to a high escalation as by that time it is too late.
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I haven’t seen any posts from 4 weeks ago which advocated a nationwide lockdown, increased testing and PPE for all nhs staff. If people were saying that then that’s very good foresight. But I think some people are actually speaking in hindsight - it happens a lot when a huge crisis happens
What I’m saying to these medical experts on 606 is if they called this epidemic absolutely right - then please use that brilliant strategic thinking to devise an exit strategy that doesn’t revolve around locking the country down until we get a vaccine - by which time we won’t have a country left
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Keep moving the goalposts.
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And keep avoiding the question. What’s your exit strategy? One that balances the economic needs of 60 million people with the nhs capacity and the lives of many vulnerable people. Can’t wait for this
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Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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I was , Sandy was , Sizz was. Admittedly I didn't predict the nhs struggle.
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Yep many were, that is a fact.
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You were saying that 4 weeks ago? Amazing that a bunch of fans on an online forum all know more than the governments chief medical officer and closest medical advisors, which include experts in infectious diseases
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https://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewComment/21878877
As early as the 27th of February I expressed concern directly to a friend of mine employed as s data scientist to model by NHS model the covid pandemic. My concerns at the time were dismissed. I will not be accused of holding views in hindsight. I'm sure many on here will attest to this.
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We implemented measures earlier than the UK. Not saying we got it right but I did feel our government was more proactive.
U.K. has roughly 13 times our population but have nearly 31 times as many deaths
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posted 18 seconds ago
Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
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Strange response. Tell everyone they didn't say the things they are saying now 3 weeks ago and they are only doing so with hindsight; then when it is pointed out they were, move it on to saying they need to have an exit strategy.
The exit strategy is always going to be the vaccine. What we are talking about now is the containment strategy in the mean time. It was clear looking at the curves of other nations that infections and deaths double every few days and also that the incubation time means there is a two week delay between taking action and numbers peaking. Lockdown and social distancing measures need to be taken as soon as a trend increase appears and be pre-emptive; not reactionary to a high escalation as by that time it is too late.
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I haven’t seen any posts from 4 weeks ago which advocated a nationwide lockdown, increased testing and PPE for all nhs staff. If people were saying that then that’s very good foresight. But I think some people are actually speaking in hindsight - it happens a lot when a huge crisis happens
What I’m saying to these medical experts on 606 is if they called this epidemic absolutely right - then please use that brilliant strategic thinking to devise an exit strategy that doesn’t revolve around locking the country down until we get a vaccine - by which time we won’t have a country left
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There must be thousands of posts you haven't seen.. this is news?
Best wishes to Boris whilst he is in hospital. That's coming from a big common sense fan as well by the way
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I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
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It's not nonsense about Australia, in the same way it's not nonsense about Thailand for the same reason and Japan has been going around as normal and it's only in the past few weeks it's being looked at.
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You incorrectly said it was boiling hot in Australia
It’s barely hotter than England right now
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https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/today/l/-33.87,151.21?par=google&temp=c
Sydney as an example is getting British summer or spring weather. So what are you talking about?
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It’s 18 degrees in Sydney - hardly hot.
The average summer temp there is late 20s
So it’s not exactly a case of hot Australia ‘burning my away the virus
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Sydney if you look at the weather report is getting 20's or so with rain right now. That's hotter than the UK. That's not been the norm for the past few weeks.
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Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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Don’t be such a cat, it causes I’ll health
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Someone is going to wake up with regret
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Your missus/blow doll/cat
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I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
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It's not nonsense about Australia, in the same way it's not nonsense about Thailand for the same reason and Japan has been going around as normal and it's only in the past few weeks it's being looked at.
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You incorrectly said it was boiling hot in Australia
It’s barely hotter than England right now
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https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/today/l/-33.87,151.21?par=google&temp=c
Sydney as an example is getting British summer or spring weather. So what are you talking about?
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It’s 18 degrees in Sydney - hardly hot.
The average summer temp there is late 20s
So it’s not exactly a case of hot Australia ‘burning my away the virus
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Winter is coming
Thread started as a Bojo wish you well thread
Now it’s an argument about the ambient temperature in facking Sydney
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Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
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The whole point was timing the interventions according to our individual curve of infection rates. Do the lockdowns too early, people get bored, leave their houses and start spreading the virus when you need them to stick to the rules the most. No one wants a lockdown that goes on for months - if you time it too early that could happen. Time the interventions accordingly - that’s what the leading behavioural scientists say, that’s what the medical officers say - and when you time the interventions - ensure it’s fully enforced if you can
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Yeah, had nothing to do with their herd immunity strategy.
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Herd immunity was never a government strategy. It’s takes about 3 years to get that. It was mentioned as a consequence and then leaped on by the media in my opinion
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The governments chief medical advisor a few weeks ago ...
“the key things we need to do” is to “build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission.”
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posted on 6/4/20
Wish him well but he can’t be surprised after shaking hands with Covid patients and would ‘continue to do so ‘
Then his pregnant girlfriend and a few other MPs all passing it around amongst each other.
This whole thing has been a clusterfack
It’s scary tbh how easily and far we have allowed our country to fall and be exposed.
posted on 6/4/20
I swear even that kn ob Piersy Morgz was shouting on twitter about it a month or two ago
posted on 6/4/20
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posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 38 seconds ago
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posted 21 seconds ago
Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
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The whole point was timing the interventions according to our individual curve of infection rates. Do the lockdowns too early, people get bored, leave their houses and start spreading the virus when you need them to stick to the rules the most. No one wants a lockdown that goes on for months - if you time it too early that could happen. Time the interventions accordingly - that’s what the leading behavioural scientists say, that’s what the medical officers say - and when you time the interventions - ensure it’s fully enforced if you can
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Yeah, had nothing to do with their herd immunity strategy.
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 3 minutes ago
I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
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It's not nonsense about Australia, in the same way it's not nonsense about Thailand for the same reason and Japan has been going around as normal and it's only in the past few weeks it's being looked at.
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You incorrectly said it was boiling hot in Australia
It’s barely hotter than England right now
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https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/today/l/-33.87,151.21?par=google&temp=c
Sydney as an example is getting British summer or spring weather. So what are you talking about?
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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Don’t be such a cat, it causes I’ll health
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
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Strange response. Tell everyone they didn't say the things they are saying now 3 weeks ago and they are only doing so with hindsight; then when it is pointed out they were, move it on to saying they need to have an exit strategy.
The exit strategy is always going to be the vaccine. What we are talking about now is the containment strategy in the mean time. It was clear looking at the curves of other nations that infections and deaths double every few days and also that the incubation time means there is a two week delay between taking action and numbers peaking. Lockdown and social distancing measures need to be taken as soon as a trend increase appears and be pre-emptive; not reactionary to a high escalation as by that time it is too late.
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I haven’t seen any posts from 4 weeks ago which advocated a nationwide lockdown, increased testing and PPE for all nhs staff. If people were saying that then that’s very good foresight. But I think some people are actually speaking in hindsight - it happens a lot when a huge crisis happens
What I’m saying to these medical experts on 606 is if they called this epidemic absolutely right - then please use that brilliant strategic thinking to devise an exit strategy that doesn’t revolve around locking the country down until we get a vaccine - by which time we won’t have a country left
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
Btw make no mistake the world is going to go into the biggest recession since the great depression in the 1920's once this is all over. We were already heading for a worldwide recession before this thing hit. If we all hopefully get through this alive, it's going to be a shiiit show. However, I have feeling the world in the main is going to be happy to be alive once all this is over. I think people are going to care more about each other and family once it's done.
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There's stories every day of countries hijacking medical supplies enroute to different nations.
Desperately needed cargo and airfreight literally being commandeered through government decree or economic might.
There will be quite a few grudges to settle when all this is over.
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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Don’t be such a cat, it causes I’ll health
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Someone is going to wake up with regret
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 21 seconds ago
Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
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The whole point was timing the interventions according to our individual curve of infection rates. Do the lockdowns too early, people get bored, leave their houses and start spreading the virus when you need them to stick to the rules the most. No one wants a lockdown that goes on for months - if you time it too early that could happen. Time the interventions accordingly - that’s what the leading behavioural scientists say, that’s what the medical officers say - and when you time the interventions - ensure it’s fully enforced if you can
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Yeah, had nothing to do with their herd immunity strategy.
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Herd immunity will happen naturally. That is the end game until vaccine is in place. The steps the govt followed is to help the NHS
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
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Strange response. Tell everyone they didn't say the things they are saying now 3 weeks ago and they are only doing so with hindsight; then when it is pointed out they were, move it on to saying they need to have an exit strategy.
The exit strategy is always going to be the vaccine. What we are talking about now is the containment strategy in the mean time. It was clear looking at the curves of other nations that infections and deaths double every few days and also that the incubation time means there is a two week delay between taking action and numbers peaking. Lockdown and social distancing measures need to be taken as soon as a trend increase appears and be pre-emptive; not reactionary to a high escalation as by that time it is too late.
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I haven’t seen any posts from 4 weeks ago which advocated a nationwide lockdown, increased testing and PPE for all nhs staff. If people were saying that then that’s very good foresight. But I think some people are actually speaking in hindsight - it happens a lot when a huge crisis happens
What I’m saying to these medical experts on 606 is if they called this epidemic absolutely right - then please use that brilliant strategic thinking to devise an exit strategy that doesn’t revolve around locking the country down until we get a vaccine - by which time we won’t have a country left
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Keep moving the goalposts.
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 3 minutes ago
I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
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It's not nonsense about Australia, in the same way it's not nonsense about Thailand for the same reason and Japan has been going around as normal and it's only in the past few weeks it's being looked at.
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You incorrectly said it was boiling hot in Australia
It’s barely hotter than England right now
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https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/today/l/-33.87,151.21?par=google&temp=c
Sydney as an example is getting British summer or spring weather. So what are you talking about?
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It’s 18 degrees in Sydney - hardly hot.
The average summer temp there is late 20s
So it’s not exactly a case of hot Australia ‘burning my away the virus
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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Don’t be such a cat, it causes I’ll health
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Someone is going to wake up with regret
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If you know 606.....
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 21 seconds ago
Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
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The whole point was timing the interventions according to our individual curve of infection rates. Do the lockdowns too early, people get bored, leave their houses and start spreading the virus when you need them to stick to the rules the most. No one wants a lockdown that goes on for months - if you time it too early that could happen. Time the interventions accordingly - that’s what the leading behavioural scientists say, that’s what the medical officers say - and when you time the interventions - ensure it’s fully enforced if you can
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Yeah, had nothing to do with their herd immunity strategy.
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Herd immunity was never a government strategy. It’s takes about 3 years to get that. It was mentioned as a consequence and then leaped on by the media in my opinion
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
Btw make no mistake the world is going to go into the biggest recession since the great depression in the 1920's once this is all over. We were already heading for a worldwide recession before this thing hit. If we all hopefully get through this alive, it's going to be a shiiit show. However, I have feeling the world in the main is going to be happy to be alive once all this is over. I think people are going to care more about each other and family once it's done.
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There's stories every day of countries hijacking medical supplies enroute to different nations.
Desperately needed cargo and airfreight literally being commandeered through government decree or economic might.
There will be quite a few grudges to settle when all this is over.
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Very true.
posted on 6/4/20
*burning away
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
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Strange response. Tell everyone they didn't say the things they are saying now 3 weeks ago and they are only doing so with hindsight; then when it is pointed out they were, move it on to saying they need to have an exit strategy.
The exit strategy is always going to be the vaccine. What we are talking about now is the containment strategy in the mean time. It was clear looking at the curves of other nations that infections and deaths double every few days and also that the incubation time means there is a two week delay between taking action and numbers peaking. Lockdown and social distancing measures need to be taken as soon as a trend increase appears and be pre-emptive; not reactionary to a high escalation as by that time it is too late.
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I haven’t seen any posts from 4 weeks ago which advocated a nationwide lockdown, increased testing and PPE for all nhs staff. If people were saying that then that’s very good foresight. But I think some people are actually speaking in hindsight - it happens a lot when a huge crisis happens
What I’m saying to these medical experts on 606 is if they called this epidemic absolutely right - then please use that brilliant strategic thinking to devise an exit strategy that doesn’t revolve around locking the country down until we get a vaccine - by which time we won’t have a country left
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Keep moving the goalposts.
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And keep avoiding the question. What’s your exit strategy? One that balances the economic needs of 60 million people with the nhs capacity and the lives of many vulnerable people. Can’t wait for this
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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I was , Sandy was , Sizz was. Admittedly I didn't predict the nhs struggle.
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Yep many were, that is a fact.
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You were saying that 4 weeks ago? Amazing that a bunch of fans on an online forum all know more than the governments chief medical officer and closest medical advisors, which include experts in infectious diseases
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https://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewComment/21878877
As early as the 27th of February I expressed concern directly to a friend of mine employed as s data scientist to model by NHS model the covid pandemic. My concerns at the time were dismissed. I will not be accused of holding views in hindsight. I'm sure many on here will attest to this.
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We implemented measures earlier than the UK. Not saying we got it right but I did feel our government was more proactive.
U.K. has roughly 13 times our population but have nearly 31 times as many deaths
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 18 seconds ago
Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
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Strange response. Tell everyone they didn't say the things they are saying now 3 weeks ago and they are only doing so with hindsight; then when it is pointed out they were, move it on to saying they need to have an exit strategy.
The exit strategy is always going to be the vaccine. What we are talking about now is the containment strategy in the mean time. It was clear looking at the curves of other nations that infections and deaths double every few days and also that the incubation time means there is a two week delay between taking action and numbers peaking. Lockdown and social distancing measures need to be taken as soon as a trend increase appears and be pre-emptive; not reactionary to a high escalation as by that time it is too late.
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I haven’t seen any posts from 4 weeks ago which advocated a nationwide lockdown, increased testing and PPE for all nhs staff. If people were saying that then that’s very good foresight. But I think some people are actually speaking in hindsight - it happens a lot when a huge crisis happens
What I’m saying to these medical experts on 606 is if they called this epidemic absolutely right - then please use that brilliant strategic thinking to devise an exit strategy that doesn’t revolve around locking the country down until we get a vaccine - by which time we won’t have a country left
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There must be thousands of posts you haven't seen.. this is news?
posted on 6/4/20
Best wishes to Boris whilst he is in hospital. That's coming from a big common sense fan as well by the way
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 3 minutes ago
I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
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It's not nonsense about Australia, in the same way it's not nonsense about Thailand for the same reason and Japan has been going around as normal and it's only in the past few weeks it's being looked at.
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You incorrectly said it was boiling hot in Australia
It’s barely hotter than England right now
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https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/today/l/-33.87,151.21?par=google&temp=c
Sydney as an example is getting British summer or spring weather. So what are you talking about?
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It’s 18 degrees in Sydney - hardly hot.
The average summer temp there is late 20s
So it’s not exactly a case of hot Australia ‘burning my away the virus
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Sydney if you look at the weather report is getting 20's or so with rain right now. That's hotter than the UK. That's not been the norm for the past few weeks.
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, we could have put the measures in place exactly when Italy had using basically the exact same data. It isn’t rocquet sconce
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Time to put the drink away
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Don’t be such a cat, it causes I’ll health
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Someone is going to wake up with regret
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Your missus/blow doll/cat
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 3 minutes ago
I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not nonsense about Australia, in the same way it's not nonsense about Thailand for the same reason and Japan has been going around as normal and it's only in the past few weeks it's being looked at.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You incorrectly said it was boiling hot in Australia
It’s barely hotter than England right now
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/today/l/-33.87,151.21?par=google&temp=c
Sydney as an example is getting British summer or spring weather. So what are you talking about?
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It’s 18 degrees in Sydney - hardly hot.
The average summer temp there is late 20s
So it’s not exactly a case of hot Australia ‘burning my away the virus
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Winter is coming
posted on 6/4/20
Thread started as a Bojo wish you well thread
Now it’s an argument about the ambient temperature in facking Sydney
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 21 seconds ago
Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The whole point was timing the interventions according to our individual curve of infection rates. Do the lockdowns too early, people get bored, leave their houses and start spreading the virus when you need them to stick to the rules the most. No one wants a lockdown that goes on for months - if you time it too early that could happen. Time the interventions accordingly - that’s what the leading behavioural scientists say, that’s what the medical officers say - and when you time the interventions - ensure it’s fully enforced if you can
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Yeah, had nothing to do with their herd immunity strategy.
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Herd immunity was never a government strategy. It’s takes about 3 years to get that. It was mentioned as a consequence and then leaped on by the media in my opinion
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The governments chief medical advisor a few weeks ago ...
“the key things we need to do” is to “build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission.”
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