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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
South Korea has set the gold standard of how to deal with a pandemic.
Got to admire the actions they've taken and the discipline of the populous in dealing with it.
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Aren’t they a big brother country where everyone is monitored and tagged making it easy to tracked?
Also there testing policy was unreal.
End of the day at minimum the world should be ready if/when this happens again
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Actually no. They quickly launched an app where those who were in close proximity to someone with the virus could be told via an alert they they should self isolate.
The proximity data was held locally on people's phones that downloaded the app. All good stuff.
No not tagged ffs.
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comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 49 seconds ago
Boris economically is the most left wing Tory in my lifetime at least. I can't think of any Tory who's more left wing economically. He's left of centre economically and right of centre socially, which is probably a lot of the country, hence why he got voted in on a landslide.
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is this guy stretty?
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Amazing.
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I think he’s Carole Baskin
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posted 42 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 39 seconds ago
Boris didn't decide when to go into lockdown... he followed scientific advice
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This
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He's the leader. The buck stops with him. He took some advice and ignored a lot of others. 200 experts wrote to him the day after his strategy was announced begging him not to do it. His choice.
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Black Starr, just because you were massively ignorant and believed everything our useless government said doesn't mean everyone else did.
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I didn’t. I listened to the arguments that were made by medical experts, watched interviews from people involved in infectious disease outbreaks and tried to understand the rationale behind timing the measures accordingly. What I didn’t do was to listen to a bunch of football fans on 606 who have suddenly become experts in global pandemics
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comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
South Korea has set the gold standard of how to deal with a pandemic.
Got to admire the actions they've taken and the discipline of the populous in dealing with it.
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Aren’t they a big brother country where everyone is monitored and tagged making it easy to tracked?
Also there testing policy was unreal.
End of the day at minimum the world should be ready if/when this happens again
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Actually no. They quickly launched an app where those who were in close proximity to someone with the virus could be told via an alert they they should self isolate.
The proximity data was held locally on people's phones that downloaded the app. All good stuff.
No not tagged ffs.
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That’s cool then.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 49 seconds ago
Boris economically is the most left wing Tory in my lifetime at least. I can't think of any Tory who's more left wing economically. He's left of centre economically and right of centre socially, which is probably a lot of the country, hence why he got voted in on a landslide.
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is this guy stretty?
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Ok, let's look at the evidence, as soon as he got in he has the greatest spending the Tory Party has seen in decades. Austerity was over. Even during this corona Virus he agreed to pay 80% of wages for all workers. He increased Universal Credit by £80 a month. These are facts. No Tory leader has done anything like this ever. It's not 'normal' Tory policy. But if you wish to give me evidence of how these policies are not left wing. Then I'm all ears.
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comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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Actually, on the election day thread there were quite few people saying it. Seeing what was happening in Lombardi, people were identifying the impact it could have on the health service too.
Just because you didn't have any foresight, doesn't mean others didn't.
Yeah because we are all just layabouts when there's no football on.
Don't be so daft. The government didn't follow every piece of advice to the letter. That's why politicians took the decisions and not the experts.
There were other expert opinions that the government chose not to take.
One fears that this "PC gone mad" and "let's get on with it" approach that has won over stupid people in the UK and USA, in recent years, may kill lots of people.
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comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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I was , Sandy was , Sizz was. Admittedly I didn't predict the nhs struggle.
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Yep many were, that is a fact.
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You were saying that 4 weeks ago? Amazing that a bunch of fans on an online forum all know more than the governments chief medical officer and closest medical advisors, which include experts in infectious diseases
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Nothing to knowing more than the government , just had to watch was happening in China , and Italy daily before hand.
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Yeah it was so simple. Because closing everything down at the end of February would have had no adverse impacts at all. You’ve already seen businesses go up the wall, mass unemployment will cause until damage - including suicide I may add, every day we are in lock down costs the country billions. Kids are missing out on a proper education, people’s mental health is impacted, domestic violence has gone through the roof
It’s not as simple as locking everything down the moment you see China struggling. And what’s your exit strategy by the way?
Would love to hear what the medical experts on 606, with their vast experience of infectious diseases have to say on how we get out of this
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What's losing billions compared to thousands of lifes?
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And how many lives could be lost to suicides and mental health issues caused by mass unemployment? You can’t simply ignore the economic impacts and of course children being deprived of proper schooling. Any lockdown needs to be kept to an absolute minimum otherwise there won’t be a country full stop
Would love to hear about your exit strategy by the way as you’ve been one of the leading experts throughout this epidemic
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comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 49 seconds ago
Boris economically is the most left wing Tory in my lifetime at least. I can't think of any Tory who's more left wing economically. He's left of centre economically and right of centre socially, which is probably a lot of the country, hence why he got voted in on a landslide.
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is this guy stretty?
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Amazing.
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I think he’s Carole Baskin
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I think you’ll find it’s that biiiiitch Carole facking Baskin.
Not a fan of Johnson by any means but hope he pulls through of course. It'd be inhuman to think any other way IMO.
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comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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I was , Sandy was , Sizz was. Admittedly I didn't predict the nhs struggle.
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Yep many were, that is a fact.
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You were saying that 4 weeks ago? Amazing that a bunch of fans on an online forum all know more than the governments chief medical officer and closest medical advisors, which include experts in infectious diseases
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Nothing to knowing more than the government , just had to watch was happening in China , and Italy daily before hand.
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Yeah it was so simple. Because closing everything down at the end of February would have had no adverse impacts at all. You’ve already seen businesses go up the wall, mass unemployment will cause until damage - including suicide I may add, every day we are in lock down costs the country billions. Kids are missing out on a proper education, people’s mental health is impacted, domestic violence has gone through the roof
It’s not as simple as locking everything down the moment you see China struggling. And what’s your exit strategy by the way?
Would love to hear what the medical experts on 606, with their vast experience of infectious diseases have to say on how we get out of this
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What's losing billions compared to thousands of lifes?
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And how many lives could be lost to suicides and mental health issues caused by mass unemployment? You can’t simply ignore the economic impacts and of course children being deprived of proper schooling. Any lockdown needs to be kept to an absolute minimum otherwise there won’t be a country full stop
Would love to hear about your exit strategy by the way as you’ve been one of the leading experts throughout this epidemic
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It's amazing that the govt haven't hired him
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 21 seconds ago
Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
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posted 27 seconds ago
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posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 3 minutes ago
I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
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posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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Actually, on the election day thread there were quite few people saying it. Seeing what was happening in Lombardi, people were identifying the impact it could have on the health service too.
Just because you didn't have any foresight, doesn't mean others didn't.
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Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
It’s depression that so many people on this thread are actually defending the Tories
Automatons that vote these people in
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 31 minutes ago
NO country could have been prepared for this. It's utterly moronic to suggest we should have a huge stockpile of ventilators. This is a once in a hundred year thing. The last time anything hit so big was Spanish flu and that started in 1918. Governments don't budget or prepare for viruses that hit every hundred years. It wouldn't matter what government was in right now. Left or right.
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What about SARS, MERS, Ebola??
Btw make no mistake the world is going to go into the biggest recession since the great depression in the 1920's once this is all over. We were already heading for a worldwide recession before this thing hit. If we all hopefully get through this alive, it's going to be a shiiit show. However, I have feeling the world in the main is going to be happy to be alive once all this is over. I think people are going to care more about each other and family once it's done.
Let's not forget the first mutterings on how to deal with this from the government was to "take it on the chin"
Plenty of warning to shut down, yet right now underground and buses are STILL running (despite 5 bus drivers dying after getting Covid19)
It is a facking disgrace.
What's losing billions compared to thousands of lifes?
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I really don’t get why people can’t comprehend a relatively simple process that with a poor economy you lose lives. The lives lost will be the most vulnerable in society. The most vulnerable in society that survive will have more social and medical problems if the economy suffers. Do their lives matter less than a life lost from coronavirus?
Question to the Tories on here
Was BJ right to be shaking hands with the Coronavirus patients a month ago?
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posted on 6/4/20
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
South Korea has set the gold standard of how to deal with a pandemic.
Got to admire the actions they've taken and the discipline of the populous in dealing with it.
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Aren’t they a big brother country where everyone is monitored and tagged making it easy to tracked?
Also there testing policy was unreal.
End of the day at minimum the world should be ready if/when this happens again
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Actually no. They quickly launched an app where those who were in close proximity to someone with the virus could be told via an alert they they should self isolate.
The proximity data was held locally on people's phones that downloaded the app. All good stuff.
No not tagged ffs.
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 49 seconds ago
Boris economically is the most left wing Tory in my lifetime at least. I can't think of any Tory who's more left wing economically. He's left of centre economically and right of centre socially, which is probably a lot of the country, hence why he got voted in on a landslide.
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is this guy stretty?
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Amazing.
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I think he’s Carole Baskin
posted on 6/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 39 seconds ago
Boris didn't decide when to go into lockdown... he followed scientific advice
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This
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He's the leader. The buck stops with him. He took some advice and ignored a lot of others. 200 experts wrote to him the day after his strategy was announced begging him not to do it. His choice.
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posted on 6/4/20
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 0 seconds ago
Black Starr, just because you were massively ignorant and believed everything our useless government said doesn't mean everyone else did.
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I didn’t. I listened to the arguments that were made by medical experts, watched interviews from people involved in infectious disease outbreaks and tried to understand the rationale behind timing the measures accordingly. What I didn’t do was to listen to a bunch of football fans on 606 who have suddenly become experts in global pandemics
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
South Korea has set the gold standard of how to deal with a pandemic.
Got to admire the actions they've taken and the discipline of the populous in dealing with it.
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Aren’t they a big brother country where everyone is monitored and tagged making it easy to tracked?
Also there testing policy was unreal.
End of the day at minimum the world should be ready if/when this happens again
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Actually no. They quickly launched an app where those who were in close proximity to someone with the virus could be told via an alert they they should self isolate.
The proximity data was held locally on people's phones that downloaded the app. All good stuff.
No not tagged ffs.
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That’s cool then.
posted on 6/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 49 seconds ago
Boris economically is the most left wing Tory in my lifetime at least. I can't think of any Tory who's more left wing economically. He's left of centre economically and right of centre socially, which is probably a lot of the country, hence why he got voted in on a landslide.
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is this guy stretty?
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Ok, let's look at the evidence, as soon as he got in he has the greatest spending the Tory Party has seen in decades. Austerity was over. Even during this corona Virus he agreed to pay 80% of wages for all workers. He increased Universal Credit by £80 a month. These are facts. No Tory leader has done anything like this ever. It's not 'normal' Tory policy. But if you wish to give me evidence of how these policies are not left wing. Then I'm all ears.
posted on 6/4/20
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posted 18 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually, on the election day thread there were quite few people saying it. Seeing what was happening in Lombardi, people were identifying the impact it could have on the health service too.
Just because you didn't have any foresight, doesn't mean others didn't.
posted on 6/4/20
Yeah because we are all just layabouts when there's no football on.
Don't be so daft. The government didn't follow every piece of advice to the letter. That's why politicians took the decisions and not the experts.
There were other expert opinions that the government chose not to take.
posted on 6/4/20
One fears that this "PC gone mad" and "let's get on with it" approach that has won over stupid people in the UK and USA, in recent years, may kill lots of people.
posted on 6/4/20
Tamwolf
posted on 6/4/20
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 22 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 minutes ago
Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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I was , Sandy was , Sizz was. Admittedly I didn't predict the nhs struggle.
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Yep many were, that is a fact.
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You were saying that 4 weeks ago? Amazing that a bunch of fans on an online forum all know more than the governments chief medical officer and closest medical advisors, which include experts in infectious diseases
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Nothing to knowing more than the government , just had to watch was happening in China , and Italy daily before hand.
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Yeah it was so simple. Because closing everything down at the end of February would have had no adverse impacts at all. You’ve already seen businesses go up the wall, mass unemployment will cause until damage - including suicide I may add, every day we are in lock down costs the country billions. Kids are missing out on a proper education, people’s mental health is impacted, domestic violence has gone through the roof
It’s not as simple as locking everything down the moment you see China struggling. And what’s your exit strategy by the way?
Would love to hear what the medical experts on 606, with their vast experience of infectious diseases have to say on how we get out of this
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What's losing billions compared to thousands of lifes?
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And how many lives could be lost to suicides and mental health issues caused by mass unemployment? You can’t simply ignore the economic impacts and of course children being deprived of proper schooling. Any lockdown needs to be kept to an absolute minimum otherwise there won’t be a country full stop
Would love to hear about your exit strategy by the way as you’ve been one of the leading experts throughout this epidemic
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 49 seconds ago
Boris economically is the most left wing Tory in my lifetime at least. I can't think of any Tory who's more left wing economically. He's left of centre economically and right of centre socially, which is probably a lot of the country, hence why he got voted in on a landslide.
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is this guy stretty?
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Amazing.
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I think he’s Carole Baskin
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I think you’ll find it’s that biiiiitch Carole facking Baskin.
posted on 6/4/20
Not a fan of Johnson by any means but hope he pulls through of course. It'd be inhuman to think any other way IMO.
posted on 6/4/20
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comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
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Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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I was , Sandy was , Sizz was. Admittedly I didn't predict the nhs struggle.
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Yep many were, that is a fact.
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You were saying that 4 weeks ago? Amazing that a bunch of fans on an online forum all know more than the governments chief medical officer and closest medical advisors, which include experts in infectious diseases
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Nothing to knowing more than the government , just had to watch was happening in China , and Italy daily before hand.
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Yeah it was so simple. Because closing everything down at the end of February would have had no adverse impacts at all. You’ve already seen businesses go up the wall, mass unemployment will cause until damage - including suicide I may add, every day we are in lock down costs the country billions. Kids are missing out on a proper education, people’s mental health is impacted, domestic violence has gone through the roof
It’s not as simple as locking everything down the moment you see China struggling. And what’s your exit strategy by the way?
Would love to hear what the medical experts on 606, with their vast experience of infectious diseases have to say on how we get out of this
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What's losing billions compared to thousands of lifes?
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And how many lives could be lost to suicides and mental health issues caused by mass unemployment? You can’t simply ignore the economic impacts and of course children being deprived of proper schooling. Any lockdown needs to be kept to an absolute minimum otherwise there won’t be a country full stop
Would love to hear about your exit strategy by the way as you’ve been one of the leading experts throughout this epidemic
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It's amazing that the govt haven't hired him
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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Tamwolf
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It's the government's biggest defence at the moment. The 'no one could have predicted this' line. Yet it was entirely predictable by looking at the curves of other nations that were ahead of us.
posted on 6/4/20
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comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
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I heard you have a 50/50 shot at survival once you go into intensive care with this. That was the stats I read at least. 1 in 2 people die. I may be completely wrong though, but those were the stats I read.
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Castle. Please stop giving advice and passing your questionable opinions off as fact.
This is far too serious for that.
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Please can you point out the advice I was giving? I will await you quoting my advice that I was giving, because it's far too serious for that. I'll wait...
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Don't get pedantic. I won't be quoting anything because it's all over the last two pages. Temperatures, virus, Australia, stating things are just science when they're not, a guy I heard, the lungs. A litany of absolute nonsense debunked by severl posters.
Be responsible. Someone might interpret your comments as fact.
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Still waiting on you quoting my advice. I'll wait you kant. I like how it's all about being pedentic now. Just give me a single quote of my advice. Just one you muppet.
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I wont be going point by point. I'll concede that advice may have been the wrong word. I'll take that back and refer to it as your dangerous and ill-informed opinions.
For instance that Australia is doing better because of the high temperatures. Absolute Nonsense.
Japan. Absolute nonsense. Many schools and workplaces have been closed for a month. People commonly working from home. Taking a different path now of course....but only 85 deaths is far. They've done pretty well.
You keep it up though.
posted on 6/4/20
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comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
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Guarantee you if Boris survived he will get tougher begin these lockdown rules and the people who break them.
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I agree. The lockdown needs to be tougher however hard it is for everyone. It’s also very difficult to enforce.
In terms of the constant criticism of the government though (which doesn’t help anything) it’s clear that the entire western democracy was completely unprepared for this - look at Italy, Spain, France and now the US. They all have the same problems - not enough testing, not enough ventilators, reacting rather than being proactive etc
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It's probably not the thread but I'll be angry if I'm prevented from going out a daily exercise or the blame being in any way shifted on to the people of the UK who the vast vast majority are complying with social distancing instructions. Had we enacted a lockdown even four days earlier it would have more than halved the peak demand on our NHS. We are where we are I suppose. I wish Boris the speediest of recoveries.
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You’re speaking in hindsight. No one was on hear 3 weeks ago proclaiming we should lock the country down and order shiiit loads of PPE and testing kits. This has taken the world by complete surprise - no country has been adequately prepared
I wish people would look to stop externalising blame constantly and just adopt some of the spirit of precious generations in coming together, supporting each other and getting through this
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Actually, on the election day thread there were quite few people saying it. Seeing what was happening in Lombardi, people were identifying the impact it could have on the health service too.
Just because you didn't have any foresight, doesn't mean others didn't.
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Again - let’s hear about your solution to all of this. What’s your exit strategy then? If there really are a load of brilliant strategic thinkers on here that have got excellent foresight than the suggestions will be really interesting to read
posted on 6/4/20
It’s depression that so many people on this thread are actually defending the Tories
Automatons that vote these people in
posted on 6/4/20
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 31 minutes ago
NO country could have been prepared for this. It's utterly moronic to suggest we should have a huge stockpile of ventilators. This is a once in a hundred year thing. The last time anything hit so big was Spanish flu and that started in 1918. Governments don't budget or prepare for viruses that hit every hundred years. It wouldn't matter what government was in right now. Left or right.
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What about SARS, MERS, Ebola??
posted on 6/4/20
Btw make no mistake the world is going to go into the biggest recession since the great depression in the 1920's once this is all over. We were already heading for a worldwide recession before this thing hit. If we all hopefully get through this alive, it's going to be a shiiit show. However, I have feeling the world in the main is going to be happy to be alive once all this is over. I think people are going to care more about each other and family once it's done.
posted on 6/4/20
Let's not forget the first mutterings on how to deal with this from the government was to "take it on the chin"
Plenty of warning to shut down, yet right now underground and buses are STILL running (despite 5 bus drivers dying after getting Covid19)
It is a facking disgrace.
posted on 6/4/20
What's losing billions compared to thousands of lifes?
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I really don’t get why people can’t comprehend a relatively simple process that with a poor economy you lose lives. The lives lost will be the most vulnerable in society. The most vulnerable in society that survive will have more social and medical problems if the economy suffers. Do their lives matter less than a life lost from coronavirus?
posted on 6/4/20
S1N1
posted on 6/4/20
Question to the Tories on here
Was BJ right to be shaking hands with the Coronavirus patients a month ago?
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