comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 hours, 37 minutes ago
I'm proud to be a black man, said the black man.
I'm proud to be a white man, said the racist.

🤦
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Good grief this is so f*cking desperate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisville-detective-fired-over-killing-breonna-taylor-n1231958?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma

Protests work. Well done BLM.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
I don’t care if it’s 4% or 44%. One black person is one too many for the majority of Brits.
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Any right-wing extremists on this site can put their feet up and let Sizzle do all the recruitment work for them. This sort of hyperbole is so damaging to the cause of the humane left.
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Being polite and reasonable doesn’t f*cking work.

Wake up, you need to fight fire with fire.

https://www.facebook.com/504556504/posts/10158354584656505/?d=n

Nailed it.

comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
I don’t care if it’s 4% or 44%. One black person is one too many for the majority of Brits.
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Any right-wing extremists on this site can put their feet up and let Sizzle do all the recruitment work for them. This sort of hyperbole is so damaging to the cause of the humane left.
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Being polite and reasonable doesn’t f*cking work.

Wake up, you need to fight fire with fire.
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So how is wrongly accusing most white people and virtually all northerners of being racist “fighting fire with fire”?
You don’t go after the real racists, just anyone who fits your mental image of who they are
ie, white people

You’re just adding to the problem with this type of $hit throwing

I go after all racists. And their apologists.

That’s just an empty statement Sizz

Means nothing really

I’ve seen you at work when you get angry and it’s quite sad

Anyway, I’m stepping out now, I don’t mind you as a poster when you’re not mudslinging on these type of articles

See you on a footy thread sometime

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/pov-racism-white-fragility-1.5619647

Seems to be too many people in the UK and a few of the regular suspects on here (who I presume are white) on this thread who I can only assume are on the WUM (fair play it is what JA606 is about...) or who are seriously, too thick to appreciate or even even begin to understand why we have this BlackLivesMatter movement 'thing' going on right now and why they feel the need to counter it by shifting the goalposts with meaningless whataboutary, strawman arguments, by raising historical and present examples of perceived 'anti-white' racism, and highlighting black violence and a general disrespect of the symbols and integrity of our own Imperialist history in the UK. (The subject of this thread (The Burnley WhiteLivesMatter plane over M/C) is a example of such white racists divertary tactics).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08ht5t4

This fella on BBC Radio5 explains it well. Worth a listen if you are still 'confused'.

comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
I don’t care if it’s 4% or 44%. One black person is one too many for the majority of Brits.
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Any right-wing extremists on this site can put their feet up and let Sizzle do all the recruitment work for them. This sort of hyperbole is so damaging to the cause of the humane left.
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Being polite and reasonable doesn’t f*cking work.

Wake up, you need to fight fire with fire.
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You aren’t going to win any battle by helping recruit soldiers for the enemy.

Do you know who loves you, Sizzle? Brexiteers and white nationalists. *Love* you, because as RR put it, you do their work for them.

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
I don’t care if it’s 4% or 44%. One black person is one too many for the majority of Brits.
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Any right-wing extremists on this site can put their feet up and let Sizzle do all the recruitment work for them. This sort of hyperbole is so damaging to the cause of the humane left.
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Being polite and reasonable doesn’t f*cking work.

Wake up, you need to fight fire with fire.
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You aren’t going to win any battle by helping recruit soldiers for the enemy.

Do you know who loves you, Sizzle? Brexiteers and white nationalists. *Love* you, because as RR put it, you do their work for them.
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I can assure you, they don’t love me.

comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
That’s just an empty statement Sizz

Means nothing really

I’ve seen you at work when you get angry and it’s quite sad

Anyway, I’m stepping out now, I don’t mind you as a poster when you’re not mudslinging on these type of articles

See you on a footy thread sometime
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He specialises in empty statements.

comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 3 hours, 55 minutes ago
Seems to be too many people in the UK and a few of the regular suspects on here (who I presume are white) on this thread who I can only assume are on the WUM (fair play it is what JA606 is about...) or who are seriously, too thick to appreciate or even even begin to understand why we have this BlackLivesMatter movement 'thing' going on right now and why they feel the need to counter it by shifting the goalposts with meaningless whataboutary, strawman arguments, by raising historical and present examples of perceived 'anti-white' racism, and highlighting black violence and a general disrespect of the symbols and integrity of our own Imperialist history in the UK. (The subject of this thread (The Burnley WhiteLivesMatter plane over M/C) is a example of such white racists divertary tactics).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08ht5t4

This fella on BBC Radio5 explains it well. Worth a listen if you are still 'confused'.
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I am against right wingers but he's skewed the stats , if you look at the .gov statistics, the employment rate for white Biritsh men is nearly same for Pakistani/Bangledshi men But the rate for Bangledshi/women is less then half which effects the overall total,
is the lower employment rate for Pakistani/Bangledshis therefore not due to a cultural preference? Also it's not conclusive that the higher death rate for BMEs is due to social disadvantage that's really speculative.
Burnley and Colne it's a really socially deprived area I think you've got to acknowledge that when you address people from there, the EDL and such are wrong though because imo the solution is to look inward and sort your own situation out rather than blame other communities. There's so many issues we as Northerners need to address ourselves

How many Pakistani/Bangledshi women work 'off' the record in family shops etc?

I am against right wingers but he's skewed the stats ,
++

OK your stats don't match his... whatever


but apart from your disputed figures which is again distracting from the gist of the piece of which I wanted to share which is his point about the meaning of blacklivesmatter and the nonsense of racists trying to counter it and ignore the real issues it raises with the whataboutery of whitelivesmatter.

This is the point he is making and the one I am sharing. Its a shame you couldn't identify that and chose to talk crap about 'it's their own fault' or 'there is no actual evidence'....

And there are issues that Northerners have to address as much as Southerners., Easterners and Westerners. This won't deter white racist hiring plane and flying racist messages over Manchester.

What the feck are you talking about lad?

How many white, married women raising kids in stockbroker/footballers leafy Cheshire work compared to Asian married women raising kids in Burnley? Off or on the record.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/girlfriend-burnley-fan-behind-banner-22241110

Karma

comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
Seems to be too many people in the UK and a few of the regular suspects on here (who I presume are white) on this thread who I can only assume are on the WUM (fair play it is what JA606 is about...) or who are seriously, too thick to appreciate or even even begin to understand why we have this BlackLivesMatter movement 'thing' going on right now and why they feel the need to counter it by shifting the goalposts with meaningless whataboutary, strawman arguments, by raising historical and present examples of perceived 'anti-white' racism, and highlighting black violence and a general disrespect of the symbols and integrity of our own Imperialist history in the UK. (The subject of this thread (The Burnley WhiteLivesMatter plane over M/C) is a example of such white racists divertary tactics).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08ht5t4

This fella on BBC Radio5 explains it well. Worth a listen if you are still 'confused'.
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I know what black lives matter means, but do not back the group branded globally as BLM.

Two separate issues, imo

comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
How many white, married women raising kids in stockbroker/footballers leafy Cheshire work compared to Asian married women raising kids in Burnley? Off or on the record.
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4% of UK is black.

How many EPL players are Asian or UK born white?

On or off the record.

Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.

comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am against right wingers but he's skewed the stats ,
++

OK your stats don't match his... whatever


but apart from your disputed figures which is again distracting from the gist of the piece of which I wanted to share which is his point about the meaning of blacklivesmatter and the nonsense of racists trying to counter it and ignore the real issues it raises with the whataboutery of whitelivesmatter.

This is the point he is making and the one I am sharing. Its a shame you couldn't identify that and chose to talk crap about 'it's their own fault' or 'there is no actual evidence'....

And there are issues that Northerners have to address as much as Southerners., Easterners and Westerners. This won't deter white racist hiring plane and flying racist messages over Manchester.

What the feck are you talking about lad?
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Drug addiction, alcoholism , suicide, lack of jobs, high crime (got better recently ) higher cancer rates , obesity , worst diet imaginable , low paid work , there areas statistically are the most economically deprived in the country also , just the way we express emotions , hard Northerners never crying , never showing vulnerability , someone You've known all your life dies for example , there's hardly any grieving ,

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
Seems to be too many people in the UK and a few of the regular suspects on here (who I presume are white) on this thread who I can only assume are on the WUM (fair play it is what JA606 is about...) or who are seriously, too thick to appreciate or even even begin to understand why we have this BlackLivesMatter movement 'thing' going on right now and why they feel the need to counter it by shifting the goalposts with meaningless whataboutary, strawman arguments, by raising historical and present examples of perceived 'anti-white' racism, and highlighting black violence and a general disrespect of the symbols and integrity of our own Imperialist history in the UK. (The subject of this thread (The Burnley WhiteLivesMatter plane over M/C) is a example of such white racists divertary tactics).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08ht5t4

This fella on BBC Radio5 explains it well. Worth a listen if you are still 'confused'.
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I know what black lives matter means, but do not back the group branded globally as BLM.

Two separate issues, imo
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I agree, just because someone wants a United Ireland doesn’t mean you have to support the RA.

There’s parts of what BLM are fighting for I agree with, but then there’s are bits that are just lunacy.

comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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I don’t know why anyone is proud of something that you had no hand in achieving.

comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.

Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.

Is my point.