What do BLM want in uk?
Is transporting brand BLM from America, (where armed cops killed black guys, and where racial history and politics is part of society) appropriate?
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Seems to be too many people in the UK and a few of the regular suspects on here (who I presume are white) on this thread who I can only assume are on the WUM (fair play it is what JA606 is about...) or who are seriously, too thick to appreciate or even even begin to understand why we have this BlackLivesMatter movement 'thing' going on right now and why they feel the need to counter it by shifting the goalposts with meaningless whataboutary, strawman arguments, by raising historical and present examples of perceived 'anti-white' racism, and highlighting black violence and a general disrespect of the symbols and integrity of our own Imperialist history in the UK. (The subject of this thread (The Burnley WhiteLivesMatter plane over M/C) is a example of such white racists divertary tactics).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08ht5t4
This fella on BBC Radio5 explains it well. Worth a listen if you are still 'confused'.
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I know what black lives matter means, but do not back the group branded globally as BLM.
Two separate issues, imo
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I agree, just because someone wants a United Ireland doesn’t mean you have to support the RA.
There’s parts of what BLM are fighting for I agree with, but then there’s are bits that are just lunacy.
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Good analogy.
I agree that black lives matter, but think brand BLM are quite badly run, bringing mobs out during covid, preaching hate towards white society and cops and then targeting UK and European history and culture, out of some leftist malice.
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Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.
Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.
Is my point.
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Tbf it’s probably more about black culture and shared experiences. So yeah, it might be wrong to be proud about a skin colour purely by accident. But at the same time surely you can see how an oppressed race could find pride in a culture unique to their colour when so much has been taken from them for hundreds of years?
Clap.
The ra made me and one million prods determined to stop them getting a 32 county socialist republic.lol
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Clap.
The ra made me and one million prods determined to stop them getting a 32 county socialist republic.lol
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👍
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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
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Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.
Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.
Is my point.
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Tbf it’s probably more about black culture and shared experiences. So yeah, it might be wrong to be proud about a skin colour purely by accident. But at the same time surely you can see how an oppressed race could find pride in a culture unique to their colour when so much has been taken from them for hundreds of years?
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If a Klansman is proud of his skin colour, it's in the context of believing that white, Aryan people constitute a master race. This has been a mainstream view, which underpinned slavery and European fascism, to mention two examples where the ideas was harnessed to perpetrate state-sponsored mass murder. Since the abolition of slavery and the shaky assertion of equal rights, within living memory and up to today black people in the States have been prevented (violently and through subtler forms of vote suppression and gerrymandering) from playing a full part in society.
There is no equivalent mainstream idea about black supremacy. Even among the angriest BLM protests people who advocated a similar repression of white rights would be denounced as crazies.
Being proud of being black, in this context, means deciding not to be ashamed. It's the equivalent of reclaiming the N-word from the racists.
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.
Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.
Is my point.
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Tbf it’s probably more about black culture and shared experiences. So yeah, it might be wrong to be proud about a skin colour purely by accident. But at the same time surely you can see how an oppressed race could find pride in a culture unique to their colour when so much has been taken from them for hundreds of years?
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If a Klansman is proud of his skin colour, it's in the context of believing that white, Aryan people constitute a master race. This has been a mainstream view, which underpinned slavery and European fascism, to mention two examples where the ideas was harnessed to perpetrate state-sponsored mass murder. Since the abolition of slavery and the shaky assertion of equal rights, within living memory and up to today black people in the States have been prevented (violently and through subtler forms of vote suppression and gerrymandering) from playing a full part in society.
There is no equivalent mainstream idea about black supremacy. Even among the angriest BLM protests people who advocated a similar repression of white rights would be denounced as crazies.
Being proud of being black, in this context, means deciding not to be ashamed. It's the equivalent of reclaiming the N-word from the racists.
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👍
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 22 minutes ago
What do BLM want in uk?
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An end to racial inequality and police brutality.
As you know full well.
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.
Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.
Is my point.
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Tbf it’s probably more about black culture and shared experiences. So yeah, it might be wrong to be proud about a skin colour purely by accident. But at the same time surely you can see how an oppressed race could find pride in a culture unique to their colour when so much has been taken from them for hundreds of years?
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If a Klansman is proud of his skin colour, it's in the context of believing that white, Aryan people constitute a master race. This has been a mainstream view, which underpinned slavery and European fascism, to mention two examples where the ideas was harnessed to perpetrate state-sponsored mass murder. Since the abolition of slavery and the shaky assertion of equal rights, within living memory and up to today black people in the States have been prevented (violently and through subtler forms of vote suppression and gerrymandering) from playing a full part in society.
There is no equivalent mainstream idea about black supremacy. Even among the angriest BLM protests people who advocated a similar repression of white rights would be denounced as crazies.
Being proud of being black, in this context, means deciding not to be ashamed. It's the equivalent of reclaiming the N-word from the racists.
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comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 22 minutes ago
What do BLM want in uk?
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An end to racial inequality and police brutality.
As you know full well.
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thats very fecking broad isnt it
someone invent a chip that controls people that'll solve everything
I know what black lives matter means,
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OK so if you understand it, what do you think the message 'white lives matter' means when white people such as the Burnley aviator, react to it?
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preaching hate towards white society and cops and then targeting UK and European history and culture
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if they are why then do so many white people support them.
And do you honestly believe that 'targeting' parts of our History that commemorate and celebrate the black slave trade is a leftist agenda. So are you saying that people who vote right of centre are actually proud of our part in the slave trade before it was abolished? It was a shameful period in our history. You must agree with that?
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 15 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/4hj1iWqoYEc
🎵Say it loud...🎵
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https://youtu.be/IvG3is7Bm1w
Too soon?
Who has been celebrated for being a slave trader?
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well some bloke called Edward Colston for a kick-off
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But that's not really true, is it?
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well it is isn't it?
He was a bloke from Bristol who made sheds loads of money and employed shed loads of people in Bristol from his slavery company. He had so much money he gave a lot of it to the people of Bristol. You cant separate his legacy from his profession as we all found out last month. He was known and remembered in Bristol as a great and successful black slave trader who funded many projects in the city on the back of it.
You might not like it...
NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace must be feeling humiliated at the moment as it turns out it wasn’t a noose found at his garage. Paranoia is starting to spread.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 30 minutes ago
But that's not really true, is it?
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well it is isn't it?
He was a bloke from Bristol who made sheds loads of money and employed shed loads of people in Bristol from his slavery company. He had so much money he gave a lot of it to the people of Bristol. You cant separate his legacy from his profession as we all found out last month. He was known and remembered in Bristol as a great and successful black slave trader who funded many projects in the city on the back of it.
You might not like it...
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He made his fortune before he joined a slavery company. It's actually unclear how much of his fortune was made from slavery. A pretty penny, I'm sure. However, his statue was to commemorate his philanthropy.
As for separating his legacy with part of his fortune, well that's arguable. Just I wouldn't with Mandela, Malcolm, MLK and Rhodes to mention a few.
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Tbf though you did think Oswald Mosley made some good points so perhaps you’re coming at this from the wrong angle.
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posted on 24/6/20
What do BLM want in uk?
Is transporting brand BLM from America, (where armed cops killed black guys, and where racial history and politics is part of society) appropriate?
posted on 24/6/20
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
Seems to be too many people in the UK and a few of the regular suspects on here (who I presume are white) on this thread who I can only assume are on the WUM (fair play it is what JA606 is about...) or who are seriously, too thick to appreciate or even even begin to understand why we have this BlackLivesMatter movement 'thing' going on right now and why they feel the need to counter it by shifting the goalposts with meaningless whataboutary, strawman arguments, by raising historical and present examples of perceived 'anti-white' racism, and highlighting black violence and a general disrespect of the symbols and integrity of our own Imperialist history in the UK. (The subject of this thread (The Burnley WhiteLivesMatter plane over M/C) is a example of such white racists divertary tactics).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08ht5t4
This fella on BBC Radio5 explains it well. Worth a listen if you are still 'confused'.
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I know what black lives matter means, but do not back the group branded globally as BLM.
Two separate issues, imo
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I agree, just because someone wants a United Ireland doesn’t mean you have to support the RA.
There’s parts of what BLM are fighting for I agree with, but then there’s are bits that are just lunacy.
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Good analogy.
I agree that black lives matter, but think brand BLM are quite badly run, bringing mobs out during covid, preaching hate towards white society and cops and then targeting UK and European history and culture, out of some leftist malice.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.
Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.
Is my point.
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Tbf it’s probably more about black culture and shared experiences. So yeah, it might be wrong to be proud about a skin colour purely by accident. But at the same time surely you can see how an oppressed race could find pride in a culture unique to their colour when so much has been taken from them for hundreds of years?
posted on 24/6/20
Clap.
The ra made me and one million prods determined to stop them getting a 32 county socialist republic.lol
posted on 24/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
Clap.
The ra made me and one million prods determined to stop them getting a 32 county socialist republic.lol
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👍
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.
Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.
Is my point.
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Tbf it’s probably more about black culture and shared experiences. So yeah, it might be wrong to be proud about a skin colour purely by accident. But at the same time surely you can see how an oppressed race could find pride in a culture unique to their colour when so much has been taken from them for hundreds of years?
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If a Klansman is proud of his skin colour, it's in the context of believing that white, Aryan people constitute a master race. This has been a mainstream view, which underpinned slavery and European fascism, to mention two examples where the ideas was harnessed to perpetrate state-sponsored mass murder. Since the abolition of slavery and the shaky assertion of equal rights, within living memory and up to today black people in the States have been prevented (violently and through subtler forms of vote suppression and gerrymandering) from playing a full part in society.
There is no equivalent mainstream idea about black supremacy. Even among the angriest BLM protests people who advocated a similar repression of white rights would be denounced as crazies.
Being proud of being black, in this context, means deciding not to be ashamed. It's the equivalent of reclaiming the N-word from the racists.
posted on 24/6/20
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.
Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.
Is my point.
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Tbf it’s probably more about black culture and shared experiences. So yeah, it might be wrong to be proud about a skin colour purely by accident. But at the same time surely you can see how an oppressed race could find pride in a culture unique to their colour when so much has been taken from them for hundreds of years?
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If a Klansman is proud of his skin colour, it's in the context of believing that white, Aryan people constitute a master race. This has been a mainstream view, which underpinned slavery and European fascism, to mention two examples where the ideas was harnessed to perpetrate state-sponsored mass murder. Since the abolition of slavery and the shaky assertion of equal rights, within living memory and up to today black people in the States have been prevented (violently and through subtler forms of vote suppression and gerrymandering) from playing a full part in society.
There is no equivalent mainstream idea about black supremacy. Even among the angriest BLM protests people who advocated a similar repression of white rights would be denounced as crazies.
Being proud of being black, in this context, means deciding not to be ashamed. It's the equivalent of reclaiming the N-word from the racists.
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👍
posted on 24/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 22 minutes ago
What do BLM want in uk?
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An end to racial inequality and police brutality.
As you know full well.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 53 seconds ago
Is it ok to be proud to be black, but racist to be proud of being white?
Seeing as we are doing random queries now?
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Why can’t you be proud of being white? You can be proud of being any colour. But if you are white you should also accept that by lottery of birth you are hugely lucky to avoid the kind of discrimination that POC get throughout their lives. Whether they’re rich or poor.
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You never hear a non natzi or klansman say I am proud to be white.
Black people say it more and more, but it is an accident of birth that you had no say in.
Is my point.
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Tbf it’s probably more about black culture and shared experiences. So yeah, it might be wrong to be proud about a skin colour purely by accident. But at the same time surely you can see how an oppressed race could find pride in a culture unique to their colour when so much has been taken from them for hundreds of years?
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If a Klansman is proud of his skin colour, it's in the context of believing that white, Aryan people constitute a master race. This has been a mainstream view, which underpinned slavery and European fascism, to mention two examples where the ideas was harnessed to perpetrate state-sponsored mass murder. Since the abolition of slavery and the shaky assertion of equal rights, within living memory and up to today black people in the States have been prevented (violently and through subtler forms of vote suppression and gerrymandering) from playing a full part in society.
There is no equivalent mainstream idea about black supremacy. Even among the angriest BLM protests people who advocated a similar repression of white rights would be denounced as crazies.
Being proud of being black, in this context, means deciding not to be ashamed. It's the equivalent of reclaiming the N-word from the racists.
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posted on 24/6/20
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 22 minutes ago
What do BLM want in uk?
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An end to racial inequality and police brutality.
As you know full well.
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thats very fecking broad isnt it
posted on 24/6/20
someone invent a chip that controls people that'll solve everything
posted on 24/6/20
I know what black lives matter means,
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OK so if you understand it, what do you think the message 'white lives matter' means when white people such as the Burnley aviator, react to it?
posted on 24/6/20
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posted on 24/6/20
preaching hate towards white society and cops and then targeting UK and European history and culture
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if they are why then do so many white people support them.
And do you honestly believe that 'targeting' parts of our History that commemorate and celebrate the black slave trade is a leftist agenda. So are you saying that people who vote right of centre are actually proud of our part in the slave trade before it was abolished? It was a shameful period in our history. You must agree with that?
posted on 24/6/20
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posted on 24/6/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 15 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/4hj1iWqoYEc
🎵Say it loud...🎵
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https://youtu.be/IvG3is7Bm1w
Too soon?
posted on 24/6/20
Who has been celebrated for being a slave trader?
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well some bloke called Edward Colston for a kick-off
posted on 24/6/20
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posted on 24/6/20
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posted on 24/6/20
But that's not really true, is it?
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well it is isn't it?
He was a bloke from Bristol who made sheds loads of money and employed shed loads of people in Bristol from his slavery company. He had so much money he gave a lot of it to the people of Bristol. You cant separate his legacy from his profession as we all found out last month. He was known and remembered in Bristol as a great and successful black slave trader who funded many projects in the city on the back of it.
You might not like it...
posted on 24/6/20
NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace must be feeling humiliated at the moment as it turns out it wasn’t a noose found at his garage. Paranoia is starting to spread.
posted on 24/6/20
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posted on 24/6/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 30 minutes ago
But that's not really true, is it?
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well it is isn't it?
He was a bloke from Bristol who made sheds loads of money and employed shed loads of people in Bristol from his slavery company. He had so much money he gave a lot of it to the people of Bristol. You cant separate his legacy from his profession as we all found out last month. He was known and remembered in Bristol as a great and successful black slave trader who funded many projects in the city on the back of it.
You might not like it...
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He made his fortune before he joined a slavery company. It's actually unclear how much of his fortune was made from slavery. A pretty penny, I'm sure. However, his statue was to commemorate his philanthropy.
As for separating his legacy with part of his fortune, well that's arguable. Just I wouldn't with Mandela, Malcolm, MLK and Rhodes to mention a few.
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Tbf though you did think Oswald Mosley made some good points so perhaps you’re coming at this from the wrong angle.
posted on 24/6/20
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