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No team plans 10 years in advance. 2 or 3 perhaps.
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City and Liverpool are two very good recent examples of planning five years ahead.
Begiristain joined Manchester City more than three calendar years before Pep. And the board had engineered Pep’s eventual arrival at the club and were starting to prepare for it *before* Begiristain joined. That’s strategy.
The difference between two year planning and five year planning is massive.
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I think he mean with regard to signing players. Pinning hopes on young players turning out good in 5+ years is a huge gamble.
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You don’t pin hopes on five year player development.
Signing in numbers very young players with potential can form part of your strategy though. Choose the right players and it can at least make very good financial sense.
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I’d have more faith in them being the right players who the club had looked at for years if they weren’t signed about 30 mins before the end of the longest transfer window in history.
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It could well be that the failure to sign Sancho has meant that we have money available now to sign these players, rather than bringing them in 6 or 12 months time. Which is why we waited to late.
We’re in era where Leeds have Bielsa, Everton have Ancelotti and Spurs have Jose
Short term capability is just as important as long term planning. With the financial resources the club has it should be fairly straightforward to do both. Sadly I doubt these signings are part of any masterplan - if they were wouldn’t they have been bought a lot sooner?
I’d have more faith in them being the right players who the club had looked at for years if they weren’t signed about 30 mins before the end of the longest transfer window in history.
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To be fair, there were reports about the club being interested in signing Amad Traore, and not as an alternative to Sancho, at least a month ago.
Elvis
Yes but Greenwood has been at the club for years and was far more settled. A kid moving to a new country and having little preperation for dealing with the physicality of the PL will be a huge step.
For every Greenwood that's done really well moving up to the first team there are a handful who struggle and fail. It's a lot of pressure to put on a lad.
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posted 1 minute ago
Had we got the Traore deal sorted earlier could we have sorted his work permit earlier too?
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My understanding is he needs to stay in Italy until January so that he can get the work permit. He couldn't play for us now if he have moved.
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posted 1 minute ago
Not sure about your Liverpool point - by this equivalent season Klopp had built most of his team and made a CL final.
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Rosso appears to be talking about the merits of longer term recruitment strategy. It's not a defence of Solskjaer to acknowledge that Liverpool as an organisation are better at it than we are, and that Klopp has benefited from that. (It's to Klopp's great credit that he had the sense to back himself to succeed at a club with a smaller budget but a more coherent strategy and more professional support structure over Woodward's 'Disneyland for adults' pitch.)
It does appear that there has been a shift in strategy at United over the summer - not just with the purchases of Traore and Pellistri yesterday, but the money spent on hoovering up talent for the academy. In principle I think we can applaud that longer-term thinking. At the same time we can be forgiven for having zero faith in the board to have the patience or competence to stick to the strategy, see it through, execute it well, and realise return on that investment. And obviously, years of incoherence in recruitment means this pivot to youth has also come at the expense of making necessary improvements to the first XI.
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I was actually talking about the benefits of a longer term *sporting* strategy, a part of which is player recruitment. And a less significant part than people actually think.
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re in era where Leeds have Bielsa, Everton have Ancelotti and Spurs have Jose
Short term capability is just as important as long term planning. With the financial resources the club has it should be fairly straightforward to do both. Sadly I doubt these signings are part of any masterplan - if they were wouldn’t they have been bought a lot sooner?
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We know that the club monitors players and has in place plans to sign them at certain times. Sometimes these plans are brought forwards if the player suddenly develops or interest around them intensifies. I would imagine that they could also be brought forwards if money earmarked for a senior player (Sancho) is unexpectedly available.
Elvis
Wasn't hoping to get him earlier to start playing sooner but more about settling in. If he only played 24 minutes last season for Atalanta I'm not too sure how much he's likely to play this season before January.
I think for him and the young Uruguayan lad we need to be very patient and not expect them to be doing much for us this season.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 seconds ago
Elvis
Wasn't hoping to get him earlier to start playing sooner but more about settling in. If he only played 24 minutes last season for Atalanta I'm not too sure how much he's likely to play this season before January.
I think for him and the young Uruguayan lad we need to be very patient and not expect them to be doing much for us this season.
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Both likely to go out on loan imo
Hate the term we need to build for the future, How long does a rebuild take? Won’t be winning the league this season so that’s 8 years already. How many more does this squad need, 4, 5, 6. Could easy be 20 years before our next title. There no guarantee that any of the so call young players will come good. And then in 5 years time we are back to square one. Plus who to say a Real Madrid won’t come in and turn their heads. Only way we are ever going to win a title again. Is by every transfer window is to go out any buy the best player available.
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure about your Liverpool point - by this equivalent season Klopp had built most of his team and made a CL final.
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Rosso appears to be talking about the merits of longer term recruitment strategy. It's not a defence of Solskjaer to acknowledge that Liverpool as an organisation are better at it than we are, and that Klopp has benefited from that. (It's to Klopp's great credit that he had the sense to back himself to succeed at a club with a smaller budget but a more coherent strategy and more professional support structure over Woodward's 'Disneyland for adults' pitch.)
It does appear that there has been a shift in strategy at United over the summer - not just with the purchases of Traore and Pellistri yesterday, but the money spent on hoovering up talent for the academy. In principle I think we can applaud that longer-term thinking. At the same time we can be forgiven for having zero faith in the board to have the patience or competence to stick to the strategy, see it through, execute it well, and realise return on that investment. And obviously, years of incoherence in recruitment means this pivot to youth has also come at the expense of making necessary improvements to the first XI.
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I was actually talking about the benefits of a longer term *sporting* strategy, a part of which is player recruitment. And a less significant part than people actually think.
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Good point. I was mainly trying to point out that your post making a broader point that pro- / anti-Solskjaer debate
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comment by Kleberson (U22462)
posted 14 minutes ago
No team plans 10 years in advance. 2 or 3 perhaps.
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City and Liverpool are two very good recent examples of planning five years ahead.
Begiristain joined Manchester City more than three calendar years before Pep. And the board had engineered Pep’s eventual arrival at the club and were starting to prepare for it *before* Begiristain joined. That’s strategy.
The difference between two year planning and five year planning is massive.
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But that was a club who were winning titles before Pep came and who already had some world class players like Aguero, Silva, KDB, Kompany to hand over to him.
Not sure about your Liverpool point - by this equivalent season Klopp had built most of his team and made a CL final.
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And City had an evolving long term vision and existing sporting strategy before the planning for Pep’s arrival started.
FSG has been described by Forbes as “the most sophisticated, synergistic player in the coming age of international sports conglomerates“. They had a plan the template for which was based on their new model for the BoSox before they invested in Liverpool (the similarities in the profiles of the businesses being part of the reason they chose the club).
Successful billion-dollar businesses run on three to five year strategic cycles with three to five year plans to meet hierarchical structures of objectives. I see no evidence of ours.
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This is what baffles me about the Glazers
Being competitive business people surely they would want the same success on and off the field. Why haven't they told Ed to implement strategies similar to Liverpool and City when they are proven to be best practice whereas what Ed has presided over is clearly not working.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Elvis
Wasn't hoping to get him earlier to start playing sooner but more about settling in. If he only played 24 minutes last season for Atalanta I'm not too sure how much he's likely to play this season before January.
I think for him and the young Uruguayan lad we need to be very patient and not expect them to be doing much for us this season.
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I have no idea what their ability is, so can't comment on whether they will be expected to make a contribution to the first team this season. From what I have read, I'd expect that Traore is the most likely to feature when he joins in January, but could be completely wrong.
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Hate the term we need to build for the future, How long does a rebuild take? Won’t be winning the league this season so that’s 8 years already. How many more does this squad need, 4, 5, 6. Could easy be 20 years before our next title. There no guarantee that any of the so call young players will come good. And then in 5 years time we are back to square one. Plus who to say a Real Madrid won’t come in and turn their heads. Only way we are ever going to win a title again. Is by every transfer window is to go out any buy the best player available.
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You always have to be building for the future. As well as planning for the sort term too. I don't think that the two should be mutually exclusive. I can't say that I am overly impressed with the window, but that doesn't mean that the young signings we have made are bad moves.
according to the guy reporting on sky yesterday united have been watching Traore for about 5 years now and pellistri for 12 months.. hardly whim signings
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comment by United we win (U19958)
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This article is delusion. If you believe honestly this club has a strategy then my goodness let’s hope you don’t run a business. Utter terrible decision making from top to bottom lad let me tell you the cost will be severe
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Well, there obviously is a strategy to hoover up young talent from across the globe just before they break through into their respective first teams. It is a strategy that I like and something that many have moaned about the club failing to do in the past. Lets just hope that we have identified the right players.
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re in era where Leeds have Bielsa, Everton have Ancelotti and Spurs have Jose
Short term capability is just as important as long term planning. With the financial resources the club has it should be fairly straightforward to do both. Sadly I doubt these signings are part of any masterplan - if they were wouldn’t they have been bought a lot sooner?
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The first thing Radrizzani did when he bought Leeds was install Victor Orta as DoF to help with strategy.
Radrizzani had four coaches he wanted all of whom fit with their plan (Bielsa was seen as the “ideal” appointment) and talked about a vision for getting Leeds promoted in three to four seasons.
Bear in mind that this was a team that had made the playoffs repeatedly, and had had four different managers in the previous four seasons. Why not splash out on signings to immediately boost the first team and demand promotion in Bielsa’s first season?
When the fans got antsy and results wavered Cellini sacked just managers. He would have sacked Bielsa after his first season.
Radrizzani praised him and talked of the new Leeds and the long term strategy.
Sorry Dun, I replied to him. Feel free to delete!
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 38 seconds ago
Sorry Dun, I replied to him. Feel free to delete!
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no its ok mate
I'm very happy with this approach of signing top young talent.
But we should be doing this as well as improving the first team squad.
That being said wouldn't we rather have the next 'Ronaldo' coming through our youth set up, rather than another club asking for 120m for them a few years down the line?
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 8 minutes ago
I'm very happy with this approach of signing top young talent.
But we should be doing this as well as improving the first team squad.
That being said wouldn't we rather have the next 'Ronaldo' coming through our youth set up, rather than another club asking for 120m for them a few years down the line?
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This
The issue is, you need to stick to your transfer strategy.
You identified Sancho who fits the profile of the player you wanted, a top young talent who can improve, but also improves United in the now. Same applies with van de Beek, young talented player who comes in and improves the United side.
Even some slightly older players in their primes, such as Bruno and Maguire, came in and improved the side, despite Maguire's recent performances. AWB also follows this model because he improved United at RB, but can also improve himself.
So the blueprint is correct and the players that have been identified/bought, were seemingly the correct ones. But now the attention has switched to a couple of teenage wingers, who may fit the profile of a young player wanting to develop, but how do they come in and improve United on what's already there? Cavani seemed to be signed because he was available and it almost seemed a last minute "risk-free" (due to his age, experience and reputation) signing rather than a genuine target to improve the squad depth. Telles? I haven't seen enough of him to give a proper opinion, but heard he is decent going forward, suspect defensively. Does he improve on Shaw really? Will he adapt to the PL as well? More questions than answers in the last few days in terms of what United are actually wanting to achieve on the recruitment side of things.
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posted on 6/10/20
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comment by Kleberson (U22462)
posted 14 minutes ago
No team plans 10 years in advance. 2 or 3 perhaps.
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City and Liverpool are two very good recent examples of planning five years ahead.
Begiristain joined Manchester City more than three calendar years before Pep. And the board had engineered Pep’s eventual arrival at the club and were starting to prepare for it *before* Begiristain joined. That’s strategy.
The difference between two year planning and five year planning is massive.
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I think he mean with regard to signing players. Pinning hopes on young players turning out good in 5+ years is a huge gamble.
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You don’t pin hopes on five year player development.
Signing in numbers very young players with potential can form part of your strategy though. Choose the right players and it can at least make very good financial sense.
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I’d have more faith in them being the right players who the club had looked at for years if they weren’t signed about 30 mins before the end of the longest transfer window in history.
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It could well be that the failure to sign Sancho has meant that we have money available now to sign these players, rather than bringing them in 6 or 12 months time. Which is why we waited to late.
posted on 6/10/20
We’re in era where Leeds have Bielsa, Everton have Ancelotti and Spurs have Jose
Short term capability is just as important as long term planning. With the financial resources the club has it should be fairly straightforward to do both. Sadly I doubt these signings are part of any masterplan - if they were wouldn’t they have been bought a lot sooner?
posted on 6/10/20
I’d have more faith in them being the right players who the club had looked at for years if they weren’t signed about 30 mins before the end of the longest transfer window in history.
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To be fair, there were reports about the club being interested in signing Amad Traore, and not as an alternative to Sancho, at least a month ago.
posted on 6/10/20
Elvis
Yes but Greenwood has been at the club for years and was far more settled. A kid moving to a new country and having little preperation for dealing with the physicality of the PL will be a huge step.
For every Greenwood that's done really well moving up to the first team there are a handful who struggle and fail. It's a lot of pressure to put on a lad.
posted on 6/10/20
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Had we got the Traore deal sorted earlier could we have sorted his work permit earlier too?
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My understanding is he needs to stay in Italy until January so that he can get the work permit. He couldn't play for us now if he have moved.
posted on 6/10/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure about your Liverpool point - by this equivalent season Klopp had built most of his team and made a CL final.
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Rosso appears to be talking about the merits of longer term recruitment strategy. It's not a defence of Solskjaer to acknowledge that Liverpool as an organisation are better at it than we are, and that Klopp has benefited from that. (It's to Klopp's great credit that he had the sense to back himself to succeed at a club with a smaller budget but a more coherent strategy and more professional support structure over Woodward's 'Disneyland for adults' pitch.)
It does appear that there has been a shift in strategy at United over the summer - not just with the purchases of Traore and Pellistri yesterday, but the money spent on hoovering up talent for the academy. In principle I think we can applaud that longer-term thinking. At the same time we can be forgiven for having zero faith in the board to have the patience or competence to stick to the strategy, see it through, execute it well, and realise return on that investment. And obviously, years of incoherence in recruitment means this pivot to youth has also come at the expense of making necessary improvements to the first XI.
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I was actually talking about the benefits of a longer term *sporting* strategy, a part of which is player recruitment. And a less significant part than people actually think.
posted on 6/10/20
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re in era where Leeds have Bielsa, Everton have Ancelotti and Spurs have Jose
Short term capability is just as important as long term planning. With the financial resources the club has it should be fairly straightforward to do both. Sadly I doubt these signings are part of any masterplan - if they were wouldn’t they have been bought a lot sooner?
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We know that the club monitors players and has in place plans to sign them at certain times. Sometimes these plans are brought forwards if the player suddenly develops or interest around them intensifies. I would imagine that they could also be brought forwards if money earmarked for a senior player (Sancho) is unexpectedly available.
posted on 6/10/20
Elvis
Wasn't hoping to get him earlier to start playing sooner but more about settling in. If he only played 24 minutes last season for Atalanta I'm not too sure how much he's likely to play this season before January.
I think for him and the young Uruguayan lad we need to be very patient and not expect them to be doing much for us this season.
posted on 6/10/20
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 seconds ago
Elvis
Wasn't hoping to get him earlier to start playing sooner but more about settling in. If he only played 24 minutes last season for Atalanta I'm not too sure how much he's likely to play this season before January.
I think for him and the young Uruguayan lad we need to be very patient and not expect them to be doing much for us this season.
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Both likely to go out on loan imo
posted on 6/10/20
Hate the term we need to build for the future, How long does a rebuild take? Won’t be winning the league this season so that’s 8 years already. How many more does this squad need, 4, 5, 6. Could easy be 20 years before our next title. There no guarantee that any of the so call young players will come good. And then in 5 years time we are back to square one. Plus who to say a Real Madrid won’t come in and turn their heads. Only way we are ever going to win a title again. Is by every transfer window is to go out any buy the best player available.
posted on 6/10/20
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure about your Liverpool point - by this equivalent season Klopp had built most of his team and made a CL final.
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Rosso appears to be talking about the merits of longer term recruitment strategy. It's not a defence of Solskjaer to acknowledge that Liverpool as an organisation are better at it than we are, and that Klopp has benefited from that. (It's to Klopp's great credit that he had the sense to back himself to succeed at a club with a smaller budget but a more coherent strategy and more professional support structure over Woodward's 'Disneyland for adults' pitch.)
It does appear that there has been a shift in strategy at United over the summer - not just with the purchases of Traore and Pellistri yesterday, but the money spent on hoovering up talent for the academy. In principle I think we can applaud that longer-term thinking. At the same time we can be forgiven for having zero faith in the board to have the patience or competence to stick to the strategy, see it through, execute it well, and realise return on that investment. And obviously, years of incoherence in recruitment means this pivot to youth has also come at the expense of making necessary improvements to the first XI.
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I was actually talking about the benefits of a longer term *sporting* strategy, a part of which is player recruitment. And a less significant part than people actually think.
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Good point. I was mainly trying to point out that your post making a broader point that pro- / anti-Solskjaer debate
posted on 6/10/20
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comment by Kleberson (U22462)
posted 14 minutes ago
No team plans 10 years in advance. 2 or 3 perhaps.
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City and Liverpool are two very good recent examples of planning five years ahead.
Begiristain joined Manchester City more than three calendar years before Pep. And the board had engineered Pep’s eventual arrival at the club and were starting to prepare for it *before* Begiristain joined. That’s strategy.
The difference between two year planning and five year planning is massive.
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But that was a club who were winning titles before Pep came and who already had some world class players like Aguero, Silva, KDB, Kompany to hand over to him.
Not sure about your Liverpool point - by this equivalent season Klopp had built most of his team and made a CL final.
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And City had an evolving long term vision and existing sporting strategy before the planning for Pep’s arrival started.
FSG has been described by Forbes as “the most sophisticated, synergistic player in the coming age of international sports conglomerates“. They had a plan the template for which was based on their new model for the BoSox before they invested in Liverpool (the similarities in the profiles of the businesses being part of the reason they chose the club).
Successful billion-dollar businesses run on three to five year strategic cycles with three to five year plans to meet hierarchical structures of objectives. I see no evidence of ours.
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This is what baffles me about the Glazers
Being competitive business people surely they would want the same success on and off the field. Why haven't they told Ed to implement strategies similar to Liverpool and City when they are proven to be best practice whereas what Ed has presided over is clearly not working.
posted on 6/10/20
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Elvis
Wasn't hoping to get him earlier to start playing sooner but more about settling in. If he only played 24 minutes last season for Atalanta I'm not too sure how much he's likely to play this season before January.
I think for him and the young Uruguayan lad we need to be very patient and not expect them to be doing much for us this season.
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I have no idea what their ability is, so can't comment on whether they will be expected to make a contribution to the first team this season. From what I have read, I'd expect that Traore is the most likely to feature when he joins in January, but could be completely wrong.
posted on 6/10/20
comment by (U22224)
posted 1 minute ago
Hate the term we need to build for the future, How long does a rebuild take? Won’t be winning the league this season so that’s 8 years already. How many more does this squad need, 4, 5, 6. Could easy be 20 years before our next title. There no guarantee that any of the so call young players will come good. And then in 5 years time we are back to square one. Plus who to say a Real Madrid won’t come in and turn their heads. Only way we are ever going to win a title again. Is by every transfer window is to go out any buy the best player available.
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You always have to be building for the future. As well as planning for the sort term too. I don't think that the two should be mutually exclusive. I can't say that I am overly impressed with the window, but that doesn't mean that the young signings we have made are bad moves.
posted on 6/10/20
according to the guy reporting on sky yesterday united have been watching Traore for about 5 years now and pellistri for 12 months.. hardly whim signings
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UWW.. im gonna delete ya.. simply because youre a boring cant who offers nothing to this site.. now i bid you good day sir
posted on 6/10/20
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 9 seconds ago
This article is delusion. If you believe honestly this club has a strategy then my goodness let’s hope you don’t run a business. Utter terrible decision making from top to bottom lad let me tell you the cost will be severe
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Well, there obviously is a strategy to hoover up young talent from across the globe just before they break through into their respective first teams. It is a strategy that I like and something that many have moaned about the club failing to do in the past. Lets just hope that we have identified the right players.
posted on 6/10/20
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re in era where Leeds have Bielsa, Everton have Ancelotti and Spurs have Jose
Short term capability is just as important as long term planning. With the financial resources the club has it should be fairly straightforward to do both. Sadly I doubt these signings are part of any masterplan - if they were wouldn’t they have been bought a lot sooner?
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The first thing Radrizzani did when he bought Leeds was install Victor Orta as DoF to help with strategy.
Radrizzani had four coaches he wanted all of whom fit with their plan (Bielsa was seen as the “ideal” appointment) and talked about a vision for getting Leeds promoted in three to four seasons.
Bear in mind that this was a team that had made the playoffs repeatedly, and had had four different managers in the previous four seasons. Why not splash out on signings to immediately boost the first team and demand promotion in Bielsa’s first season?
When the fans got antsy and results wavered Cellini sacked just managers. He would have sacked Bielsa after his first season.
Radrizzani praised him and talked of the new Leeds and the long term strategy.
posted on 6/10/20
Sorry Dun, I replied to him. Feel free to delete!
posted on 6/10/20
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 38 seconds ago
Sorry Dun, I replied to him. Feel free to delete!
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no its ok mate
posted on 6/10/20
*sacked his managers
posted on 6/10/20
I'm very happy with this approach of signing top young talent.
But we should be doing this as well as improving the first team squad.
That being said wouldn't we rather have the next 'Ronaldo' coming through our youth set up, rather than another club asking for 120m for them a few years down the line?
posted on 6/10/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 8 minutes ago
I'm very happy with this approach of signing top young talent.
But we should be doing this as well as improving the first team squad.
That being said wouldn't we rather have the next 'Ronaldo' coming through our youth set up, rather than another club asking for 120m for them a few years down the line?
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This
posted on 6/10/20
The issue is, you need to stick to your transfer strategy.
You identified Sancho who fits the profile of the player you wanted, a top young talent who can improve, but also improves United in the now. Same applies with van de Beek, young talented player who comes in and improves the United side.
Even some slightly older players in their primes, such as Bruno and Maguire, came in and improved the side, despite Maguire's recent performances. AWB also follows this model because he improved United at RB, but can also improve himself.
So the blueprint is correct and the players that have been identified/bought, were seemingly the correct ones. But now the attention has switched to a couple of teenage wingers, who may fit the profile of a young player wanting to develop, but how do they come in and improve United on what's already there? Cavani seemed to be signed because he was available and it almost seemed a last minute "risk-free" (due to his age, experience and reputation) signing rather than a genuine target to improve the squad depth. Telles? I haven't seen enough of him to give a proper opinion, but heard he is decent going forward, suspect defensively. Does he improve on Shaw really? Will he adapt to the PL as well? More questions than answers in the last few days in terms of what United are actually wanting to achieve on the recruitment side of things.
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