If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
Have Instagram banned him for using their platform for racism to his thousands of followers?
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posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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The F.A love a slippery slope
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posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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Couldn’t agree more.
These hardline rules are put in place to take ambiguity out of the equation but where is the ambiguity? Anyone with any common sense can see that he is replying with a term of endearment used in his own country to someone congratulating him on his performance.
This sums up 2020 for you, PC-ruled pathetic nonsense at its best.
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posted 4 minutes ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I said in an earlier post, a smart FA would use this as an educational moment to bring the idea of context within and second language to the fore. I don't think we have a smart FA though.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
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It's up to all of us not to trivialise an issue as serious as racism, and not to willfully misrepresent two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises.
Tbh the whole thing is a farce that it's even being looked at.
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posted 3 minutes ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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Great point.
I get why some PC stuff is in place, we do need to respect each other more, for sure.
But when a commentator gets suspended, (or whatever term they are using) for saying the word “handbags”to describe players getting into a tiff, I really do wonder where the fck we are headed.
The Collins English dictionary even has the below description:
an incident in which people, esp sportsmen, fight or threaten to fight, but without real intent to inflict harm (esp in the phrases handbags at dawn, handbags at twenty paces, etc)
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I said in an earlier post, a smart FA would use this as an educational moment to bring the idea of context within and second language to the fore. I don't think we have a smart FA though.
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I missed that post, but I absolutely agree.
The irony thing is that by willfully interpreting a situation wrongly they would arguably be incurring in a form of discrimination themselves.
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
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It's up to all of us not to trivialise an issue as serious as racism, and not to willfully misrepresent two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises.
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This.
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Sigh.
GT attempting to derail the thread for the second time today.
Think he's best ignored, it'sonlyagame.
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
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It's up to all of us not to trivialise an issue as serious as racism, and not to willfully misrepresent two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises.
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Yeah Winston.
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Winston didn’t say that, ioag did. A non-United fan worth a rational perspective on the issue.
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posted 11 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
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It's up to all of us not to trivialise an issue as serious as racism, and not to willfully misrepresent two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises.
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Yeah Winston.
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Winston didn’t say that, ioag did. A non-United fan worth a rational perspective on the issue.
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You’re agreeing with him by willfully misrepresenting two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises?
As has been said, I genuinely believe a few on here don’t know what point they’re making. It’s just unfocused ranting.
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But when a commentator gets suspended, (or whatever term they are using) for saying the word “handbags”to describe players getting into a tiff, I really do wonder where the fck we are headed.
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My wife always laugh when the commentators say something like this. The joke is well and truly on the player, not the gender.
I really wonder who is actually getting outraged.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
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I kind of agree with that, cultural norms and all that. One thing United probably should have done is put two and two together after all the Suarez carry on and maybe mentioned it to him.
Absolutely players should be aware of what is and isn't acceptable in the country they're moving to.
This case doesn't challenge that - unless you're using simplistic, child like interpretations of the discussion around Suarez to try and point score on a football forum, I suppose.
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posted 17 minutes ago
I am agreeing with him and it is what I said about you earlier. No derailing. We're on the same page.
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GT, just to be clear, I was always in two minds over the Suárez affair and even remember trying to discuss it to no avail with Winston, but as I see and remember it, there was a very plausible case against Suárez (whilst I did also feel that there was also a potential case against Evra that was glossed over).
However, I honestly don't see any case whatsoever against Cavani, for reasons already explained here, and I think it's sad to see people trying to equate the two situations solely because they felt wronged before.
Even if the former case is perceived as having been wrongly ruled upon, two wrongs simply don't make a right, and it just isn't right to use this case as a score-settling exercise.
Why is greatdude acting so unhinged today?
it'sonlyagame (U6426)
Without wishing to go over old ground too much, what do you feel you tried discussing with me to no avail?
I don't recall that at all.
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posted on 30/11/20
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
posted on 30/11/20
Have Instagram banned him for using their platform for racism to his thousands of followers?
posted on 30/11/20
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posted on 30/11/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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The F.A love a slippery slope
posted on 30/11/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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Couldn’t agree more.
These hardline rules are put in place to take ambiguity out of the equation but where is the ambiguity? Anyone with any common sense can see that he is replying with a term of endearment used in his own country to someone congratulating him on his performance.
This sums up 2020 for you, PC-ruled pathetic nonsense at its best.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I said in an earlier post, a smart FA would use this as an educational moment to bring the idea of context within and second language to the fore. I don't think we have a smart FA though.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
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It's up to all of us not to trivialise an issue as serious as racism, and not to willfully misrepresent two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises.
posted on 30/11/20
Tbh the whole thing is a farce that it's even being looked at.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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Great point.
I get why some PC stuff is in place, we do need to respect each other more, for sure.
But when a commentator gets suspended, (or whatever term they are using) for saying the word “handbags”to describe players getting into a tiff, I really do wonder where the fck we are headed.
The Collins English dictionary even has the below description:
an incident in which people, esp sportsmen, fight or threaten to fight, but without real intent to inflict harm (esp in the phrases handbags at dawn, handbags at twenty paces, etc)
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I said in an earlier post, a smart FA would use this as an educational moment to bring the idea of context within and second language to the fore. I don't think we have a smart FA though.
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I missed that post, but I absolutely agree.
The irony thing is that by willfully interpreting a situation wrongly they would arguably be incurring in a form of discrimination themselves.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's up to all of us not to trivialise an issue as serious as racism, and not to willfully misrepresent two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This.
posted on 30/11/20
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posted on 30/11/20
Sigh.
GT attempting to derail the thread for the second time today.
Think he's best ignored, it'sonlyagame.
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posted on 30/11/20
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
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It's up to all of us not to trivialise an issue as serious as racism, and not to willfully misrepresent two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises.
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Yeah Winston.
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Winston didn’t say that, ioag did. A non-United fan worth a rational perspective on the issue.
posted on 30/11/20
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posted on 30/11/20
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's up to all of us not to trivialise an issue as serious as racism, and not to willfully misrepresent two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises.
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Yeah Winston.
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Winston didn’t say that, ioag did. A non-United fan worth a rational perspective on the issue.
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You’re agreeing with him by willfully misrepresenting two completely different situations for tribal point-scoring exercises?
As has been said, I genuinely believe a few on here don’t know what point they’re making. It’s just unfocused ranting.
posted on 30/11/20
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posted on 30/11/20
But when a commentator gets suspended, (or whatever term they are using) for saying the word “handbags”to describe players getting into a tiff, I really do wonder where the fck we are headed.
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My wife always laugh when the commentators say something like this. The joke is well and truly on the player, not the gender.
I really wonder who is actually getting outraged.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
If Cavani does get any kind of ban, then basically the message the FA will be sending out is that you cannot use any word in your own native language that has two possible translations into English if one of them can be deemed offensive, regardless of whether the context in which they used it clearly indicates that you were using with its other meaning.
Seems like a pretty slippery slope considering all the different nationalities represented in the PL and the different languages its players communicate in.
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As I got told again and again. It is up to the player coming to these shores to know what can and can't be said.
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I kind of agree with that, cultural norms and all that. One thing United probably should have done is put two and two together after all the Suarez carry on and maybe mentioned it to him.
posted on 30/11/20
Absolutely players should be aware of what is and isn't acceptable in the country they're moving to.
This case doesn't challenge that - unless you're using simplistic, child like interpretations of the discussion around Suarez to try and point score on a football forum, I suppose.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 17 minutes ago
I am agreeing with him and it is what I said about you earlier. No derailing. We're on the same page.
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GT, just to be clear, I was always in two minds over the Suárez affair and even remember trying to discuss it to no avail with Winston, but as I see and remember it, there was a very plausible case against Suárez (whilst I did also feel that there was also a potential case against Evra that was glossed over).
However, I honestly don't see any case whatsoever against Cavani, for reasons already explained here, and I think it's sad to see people trying to equate the two situations solely because they felt wronged before.
Even if the former case is perceived as having been wrongly ruled upon, two wrongs simply don't make a right, and it just isn't right to use this case as a score-settling exercise.
posted on 30/11/20
Why is greatdude acting so unhinged today?
posted on 30/11/20
it'sonlyagame (U6426)
Without wishing to go over old ground too much, what do you feel you tried discussing with me to no avail?
I don't recall that at all.
posted on 30/11/20
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