comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 56 minutes ago
Calm down Winston
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Says the guy who cries his eyes out whenever I'm on the same thread, and I don't even know who he is.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
SAF was a bad loser (but would always be gracious at the end of the day) and that's what made him the manager he was.

.......

Surely that makes him someone who hates losing. Not a bad loser.
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He certainly didn't like losing and he would vent after matches if he felt it necessary. I always thought him fair at the end of seasons or after a final when his team didn't win.

By bad loser I did mean someone who hates losing but accept the point. Jurgen Klopp = bad loser yes?

comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 4 hours, 23 minutes ago
So refs admit they gave United decisions out of fear of Ferguson. There is so much coming out from refs and PL officials about United that it’s hard to question why corruption allegations haven’t been lodged
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That’s your response? Thought you were better than that. Grow up mate

Corruption.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 44 seconds ago
Winston...the Angry years
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Not angry, just disappointed.


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I especially liked the spats you've had with Robbing & TOOR....halcion days

I tell you what I don't care for...people on here flagrantly using your catchphrase without permission

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 44 seconds ago
Winston...the Angry years
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Not angry, just disappointed.


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I especially liked the spats you've had with Robbing & TOOR....halcion days
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Two very different people with different problems.

There's no catchphrase, just an awful lot of people who treat this place like a playground.

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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 44 seconds ago
Winston...the Angry years
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Not angry, just disappointed.


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I especially liked the spats you've had with Robbing & TOOR....halcion days
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Two very different people with different problems.

There's no catchphrase, just an awful lot of people who treat this place like a playground.
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yeah...Admins need to remove the swings & roundabout....attracts allsorts of wrong-uns

Thanks lads. Been a cracking read 😂😂😂

Now back to klopps hypocrisy

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comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 51 seconds ago
Thanks lads. Been a cracking read 😂😂😂

Now back to klopps hypocrisy
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Quiet you. Winston meltdown is far more entertaining. Stay on topic

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 44 seconds ago
Winston...the Angry years
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Not angry, just disappointed.


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I especially liked the spats you've had with Robbing & TOOR....halcion days
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Two very different people with different problems.

There's no catchphrase, just an awful lot of people who treat this place like a playground.
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yeah...Admins need to remove the swings & roundabout....attracts allsorts of wrong-uns
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I guess it's the nature of online forums.

Some are harmless, others just spoil the whole place.

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 8 seconds ago
Thanks lads. Been a cracking read 😂😂😂

Now back to klopps hypocrisy
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I think everyone has acknowledged that... what more do you want to discuss??
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Nothing. I think we are done here. 😂

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comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 51 seconds ago
Thanks lads. Been a cracking read 😂😂😂

Now back to klopps hypocrisy
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Quiet you. Winston meltdown is far more entertaining. Stay on topic
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Old Comical Ali is back.

Reading through this level of 'verbal jousting' is like watching two tape worms racing to fall out of an arris

It just won't end!

Read that before.
Utter genius there from Clattenburg.
Says there is no bias, then says there used to be bias, when he was refereeing apparently, then says the bias is less than it used to be.
Want to make you mind up which it is Mark. 😂

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 minutes ago
Read that before.
Utter genius there from Clattenburg.
Says there is no bias, then says there used to be bias, when he was refereeing apparently, then says the bias is less than it used to be.
Want to make you mind up which it is Mark. 😂
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😂

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 minutes ago
Read that before.
Utter genius there from Clattenburg.
Says there is no bias, then says there used to be bias, when he was refereeing apparently, then says the bias is less than it used to be.
Want to make you mind up which it is Mark. 😂
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26782112

Bottom line is, refs were scared of being criticised by Ferguson, as it would be headline news, so might think twice compared to giving a similar decision that other less vocal, or lower profile managers might find contentious.
Did it win United titles?
No.
Did it make refs look like snivelling little 5h1thouses at times?
Yes.
Maybe Clattenburg protests too much because he fell into that category, and doesn't like being reminded of it.

I think in football success earns you certain things that others might find troubling.
People always said teams were beaten before they took the field at Anfield, and then later during Fergies reign at Old Trafford, due to fear.
Well you only earn that by being good.
Similarly big personalities can sometimes influence decisions, which is what it felt like at time with Ferguson at United.
No bigee, and no excuse for those who couldnt match united during Ferguson reign.
He was simply a better manager, and had better teams.

"Klopp was correct when he said United have won more penalties in two years than Liverpool have in his five and a half at Anfield.

yup