Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 6 seconds ago
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
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"Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism"
Where have you got that from?
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 21 minutes ago
1. It removes the spirit of fair and equal competition from football. Granted some clubs are already wealthier than others which skews things, but there is still the kind of jeopardy in the game that enabled Spurs and City to break the glass ceiling of the old Sky 4, Porto to win the CL, Leicester to win the league. A closed shop rich club European tournament eliminates that.
2. It devalues the Premier League if there are no European places to fight for.
3. It devalues the domestic cups with the rebel six not competing in them anymore.
4. It denies former CL clubs that aren’t in it the opportunity to play the likes of Real and Barca, the big European nights that their fans dream of and that give them valuable funding.
5. It is sporting elitism which should never be accepted, and it is being implemented by faceless owners with no accountability to the true custodians of the clubs - the fans. It is designed to keep a small cartel of clubs at the top, getting richer and likewise the owners and shareholders of said clubs getting richer, while keeping everyone else down. Meanwhile, clubs lower down the pyramid that are vital and valued institutions in their local communities are furloughing staff and going out of business.
I do not see how any true fan of football as a competitive sport, or right minded individual could be in favour of something like this.
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This is pretty much all that needs to be said
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 4 minutes ago
The CL, EL and ECL are open to all teams in top flights. So lets say 25 countries, with 20 teams, is 500 teams, can battle it out to get into the 108 European competition spots. All generating money for the good of all teams. Compared to 15 perpetual rich clubs getting all the money, with 5 teams allowed to compete on invitation. 5 teams out of 500 or 108 teams out of 500. How is the ESL solving the problem that was put forward by the ESL as being a lack of money in the game.
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But the 15 founders qualifiy 9 times out 10 though.
The Super League means the other 5 teams qualifying will benefit hugely from the £350m money.
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Arsenal haven't even qualified for the CL in the last 5 seasons, never mind made it out the groups. On what possible merit do they get into this "super league"? Man Utd have qualified in two of the last 5 seasons. Have Spurs even won anything ever? You're talking utter bollix mate.
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 36 seconds ago
No club has a guaranteed place in the Premier League. What sort of nonsense is that? If United finished last on 10 points we'd be relegated.
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Dont be naive. There are at least 10 clubs with no risk of relegation every season.
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Is there a mechanism in place that means they can be relegated? Yes, yes there is.
The fact they are unlikely to be relegated is down to their performances on the pitch.
This isn't difficult!
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I didnt say they couldn't be relegated did I.
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But they can't in the Super League. Can't you see the difference?
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They cant for the first period. That might change after a while once its established.
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So you're in favour of it because they might change the rules to make it fairer in the future
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I'm just tryingn to understand the concerns some have and to point out there are positives
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It's odd you can't understand the concerns when so many people are telling you the same thing
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The only concern appears to be that some clubs are guaranteed involvment which is deemed unfair, however if we are honest, that's already almost the case for most of them.
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posted 39 seconds ago
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I think those are fair points but I'd say.
1) There will be 'weaker' teams in the Super League too who may adopt a defensive approach.
2) I don't think it'd be boring as such to play Real/Barca etc but part of a big European night is that you don't know for certain when it would happen again. I absolutely get the point about some of our games being dull but some can be cracking games too. I'd say it's our 'big' games this season that have been mostly dull.
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i'm also well aware that we might be one of the weaker teams adopting a defensive approach (!)
but if 15 of the 20 clubs either win the thing, or face no repercussions at all, there isn't a huge incentive to stifle a game.
comment by The Post Nearly Legacy Fan (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 6 seconds ago
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
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"Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism"
Where have you got that from?
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Well, clubs seem far more pro active against racism than UEFA have been, with their paltry fines.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 39 seconds ago
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I think those are fair points but I'd say.
1) There will be 'weaker' teams in the Super League too who may adopt a defensive approach.
2) I don't think it'd be boring as such to play Real/Barca etc but part of a big European night is that you don't know for certain when it would happen again. I absolutely get the point about some of our games being dull but some can be cracking games too. I'd say it's our 'big' games this season that have been mostly dull.
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i'm also well aware that we might be one of the weaker teams adopting a defensive approach (!)
but if 15 of the 20 clubs either win the thing, or face no repercussions at all, there isn't a huge incentive to stifle a game.
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Indeed!
I agree there isn't much incentive to stifle a game but I'm certain Jose will turn up somewhere again soon!
The Post Nearly Legacy Fan
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 39 seconds ago
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I think those are fair points but I'd say.
1) There will be 'weaker' teams in the Super League too who may adopt a defensive approach.
2) I don't think it'd be boring as such to play Real/Barca etc but part of a big European night is that you don't know for certain when it would happen again. I absolutely get the point about some of our games being dull but some can be cracking games too. I'd say it's our 'big' games this season that have been mostly dull.
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i'm also well aware that we might be one of the weaker teams adopting a defensive approach (!)
but if 15 of the 20 clubs either win the thing, or face no repercussions at all, there isn't a huge incentive to stifle a game.
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Yeah, but what if 15% of the population of Malaysia shift allegiances because we're shiiit and start buying Barca merch instead?
That's the type of jeopardy these tw@ts understand
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 4 minutes ago
The CL, EL and ECL are open to all teams in top flights. So lets say 25 countries, with 20 teams, is 500 teams, can battle it out to get into the 108 European competition spots. All generating money for the good of all teams. Compared to 15 perpetual rich clubs getting all the money, with 5 teams allowed to compete on invitation. 5 teams out of 500 or 108 teams out of 500. How is the ESL solving the problem that was put forward by the ESL as being a lack of money in the game.
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But the 15 founders qualifiy 9 times out 10 though.
The Super League means the other 5 teams qualifying will benefit hugely from the £350m money.
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Arsenal haven't even qualified for the CL in the last 5 seasons, never mind made it out the groups. On what possible merit do they get into this "super league"? Man Utd have qualified in two of the last 5 seasons. Have Spurs even won anything ever? You're talking utter bollix mate.
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Who outside of the Super 6 in England have qualified more than Arsenal and United over the last decade ?
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posted 39 seconds ago
The Post Nearly Legacy Fan
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That wasn't a response, I was trying to establish if you're a bit simple.
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comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Legacy Fan (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 6 seconds ago
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
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"Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism"
Where have you got that from?
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Well, clubs seem far more pro active against racism than UEFA have been, with their paltry fines.
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Uefa's regulations and enforcement on racism were devised by the clubs. And then approved by their executive board.
No evidence whatsoever the ESL clubs will adopt a different policy than they have now.
https://twitter.com/VishwasManUtd/status/1384452019394539521?s=19
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
Its pure greed - Greed in football is nothing new.
The super 6 will get richer than the rest of us- They already are. And 1 of the 5 invited clubs will receive far more money than they currently do or would via the Champs League.
Its a closed shop - It isn't.
It will de value the Prem - less so than kicking these clubs out. None of these clubs are Suddenly.going to.sacrifice their own domestic title challenges, especially if their is no risk of dropping out of Europe.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Imagibe you are Leicester and you are told by WBA and Sheffield Utd you can't participate in a super.league worth £350m per season because WBA and Sheff Utd think its unfair.
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Imagibe you are Leicester and you are told by WBA and Sheffield Utd you can't participate in a super.league worth £350m per season because WBA and Sheff Utd think its unfair.
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Just imagined it. Absolutely fine with it.
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posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
What are the positives of a Super League RDD?
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More money in the game, bigger and better matches, a body that might do something about racism in the game beyond pitiful fines, an opportunity for smaller clubs to change their fortunes through prize money (Imagine Ajax with £350m every couple of seasons )
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God help us if anyone genuinely believes that what the game is missing is the richest clubs having even more money.
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Imagjne what £350m every few seasons would do for Ajax, Porto, Lyon, Valencia, Villa, lille, Roma
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These clubs aren't going to be part of the ESL though
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
What are the positives of a Super League RDD?
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More money in the game, bigger and better matches, a body that might do something about racism in the game beyond pitiful fines, an opportunity for smaller clubs to change their fortunes through prize money (Imagine Ajax with £350m every couple of seasons )
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God help us if anyone genuinely believes that what the game is missing is the richest clubs having even more money.
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Imagjne what £350m every few seasons would do for Ajax, Porto, Lyon, Valencia, Villa, lille, Roma
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These clubs aren't going to be part of the ESL though
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Maybe they should give everybody a turn to get £350m. Bet Sheff Utd can't wait.
The ESL is fundamentally cynical opportunism by the elite clubs trying to secure financial stability.
Everything else is window dressing.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 17 minutes ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Well it is bloody typical this has happened!
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comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
What are the positives of a Super League RDD?
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More money in the game, bigger and better matches, a body that might do something about racism in the game beyond pitiful fines, an opportunity for smaller clubs to change their fortunes through prize money (Imagine Ajax with £350m every couple of seasons )
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God help us if anyone genuinely believes that what the game is missing is the richest clubs having even more money.
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Imagjne what £350m every few seasons would do for Ajax, Porto, Lyon, Valencia, Villa, lille, Roma
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These clubs aren't going to be part of the ESL though
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How do you know who will be invited?
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posted on 20/4/21
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 6 seconds ago
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
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"Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism"
Where have you got that from?
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 21 minutes ago
1. It removes the spirit of fair and equal competition from football. Granted some clubs are already wealthier than others which skews things, but there is still the kind of jeopardy in the game that enabled Spurs and City to break the glass ceiling of the old Sky 4, Porto to win the CL, Leicester to win the league. A closed shop rich club European tournament eliminates that.
2. It devalues the Premier League if there are no European places to fight for.
3. It devalues the domestic cups with the rebel six not competing in them anymore.
4. It denies former CL clubs that aren’t in it the opportunity to play the likes of Real and Barca, the big European nights that their fans dream of and that give them valuable funding.
5. It is sporting elitism which should never be accepted, and it is being implemented by faceless owners with no accountability to the true custodians of the clubs - the fans. It is designed to keep a small cartel of clubs at the top, getting richer and likewise the owners and shareholders of said clubs getting richer, while keeping everyone else down. Meanwhile, clubs lower down the pyramid that are vital and valued institutions in their local communities are furloughing staff and going out of business.
I do not see how any true fan of football as a competitive sport, or right minded individual could be in favour of something like this.
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This is pretty much all that needs to be said
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 4 minutes ago
The CL, EL and ECL are open to all teams in top flights. So lets say 25 countries, with 20 teams, is 500 teams, can battle it out to get into the 108 European competition spots. All generating money for the good of all teams. Compared to 15 perpetual rich clubs getting all the money, with 5 teams allowed to compete on invitation. 5 teams out of 500 or 108 teams out of 500. How is the ESL solving the problem that was put forward by the ESL as being a lack of money in the game.
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But the 15 founders qualifiy 9 times out 10 though.
The Super League means the other 5 teams qualifying will benefit hugely from the £350m money.
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Arsenal haven't even qualified for the CL in the last 5 seasons, never mind made it out the groups. On what possible merit do they get into this "super league"? Man Utd have qualified in two of the last 5 seasons. Have Spurs even won anything ever? You're talking utter bollix mate.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Legacy Fan (U1270)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 seconds ago
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posted 35 seconds ago
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 36 seconds ago
No club has a guaranteed place in the Premier League. What sort of nonsense is that? If United finished last on 10 points we'd be relegated.
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Dont be naive. There are at least 10 clubs with no risk of relegation every season.
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Is there a mechanism in place that means they can be relegated? Yes, yes there is.
The fact they are unlikely to be relegated is down to their performances on the pitch.
This isn't difficult!
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I didnt say they couldn't be relegated did I.
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But they can't in the Super League. Can't you see the difference?
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They cant for the first period. That might change after a while once its established.
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So you're in favour of it because they might change the rules to make it fairer in the future
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I'm just tryingn to understand the concerns some have and to point out there are positives
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It's odd you can't understand the concerns when so many people are telling you the same thing
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The only concern appears to be that some clubs are guaranteed involvment which is deemed unfair, however if we are honest, that's already almost the case for most of them.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 39 seconds ago
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I think those are fair points but I'd say.
1) There will be 'weaker' teams in the Super League too who may adopt a defensive approach.
2) I don't think it'd be boring as such to play Real/Barca etc but part of a big European night is that you don't know for certain when it would happen again. I absolutely get the point about some of our games being dull but some can be cracking games too. I'd say it's our 'big' games this season that have been mostly dull.
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i'm also well aware that we might be one of the weaker teams adopting a defensive approach (!)
but if 15 of the 20 clubs either win the thing, or face no repercussions at all, there isn't a huge incentive to stifle a game.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The Post Nearly Legacy Fan (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 6 seconds ago
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
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"Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism"
Where have you got that from?
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Well, clubs seem far more pro active against racism than UEFA have been, with their paltry fines.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 39 seconds ago
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I think those are fair points but I'd say.
1) There will be 'weaker' teams in the Super League too who may adopt a defensive approach.
2) I don't think it'd be boring as such to play Real/Barca etc but part of a big European night is that you don't know for certain when it would happen again. I absolutely get the point about some of our games being dull but some can be cracking games too. I'd say it's our 'big' games this season that have been mostly dull.
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i'm also well aware that we might be one of the weaker teams adopting a defensive approach (!)
but if 15 of the 20 clubs either win the thing, or face no repercussions at all, there isn't a huge incentive to stifle a game.
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Indeed!
I agree there isn't much incentive to stifle a game but I'm certain Jose will turn up somewhere again soon!
posted on 20/4/21
The Post Nearly Legacy Fan
Why do you keep copying and pasting the same comment all over the place?
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Trying to get a response and it was demonstrably successful.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 39 seconds ago
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I think those are fair points but I'd say.
1) There will be 'weaker' teams in the Super League too who may adopt a defensive approach.
2) I don't think it'd be boring as such to play Real/Barca etc but part of a big European night is that you don't know for certain when it would happen again. I absolutely get the point about some of our games being dull but some can be cracking games too. I'd say it's our 'big' games this season that have been mostly dull.
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i'm also well aware that we might be one of the weaker teams adopting a defensive approach (!)
but if 15 of the 20 clubs either win the thing, or face no repercussions at all, there isn't a huge incentive to stifle a game.
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Yeah, but what if 15% of the population of Malaysia shift allegiances because we're shiiit and start buying Barca merch instead?
That's the type of jeopardy these tw@ts understand
posted on 20/4/21
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 4 minutes ago
The CL, EL and ECL are open to all teams in top flights. So lets say 25 countries, with 20 teams, is 500 teams, can battle it out to get into the 108 European competition spots. All generating money for the good of all teams. Compared to 15 perpetual rich clubs getting all the money, with 5 teams allowed to compete on invitation. 5 teams out of 500 or 108 teams out of 500. How is the ESL solving the problem that was put forward by the ESL as being a lack of money in the game.
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But the 15 founders qualifiy 9 times out 10 though.
The Super League means the other 5 teams qualifying will benefit hugely from the £350m money.
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Arsenal haven't even qualified for the CL in the last 5 seasons, never mind made it out the groups. On what possible merit do they get into this "super league"? Man Utd have qualified in two of the last 5 seasons. Have Spurs even won anything ever? You're talking utter bollix mate.
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Who outside of the Super 6 in England have qualified more than Arsenal and United over the last decade ?
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Just go already (U21166)
posted 39 seconds ago
The Post Nearly Legacy Fan
Why do you keep copying and pasting the same comment all over the place?
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That wasn't a response, I was trying to establish if you're a bit simple.
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comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Legacy Fan (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 6 seconds ago
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
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"Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism"
Where have you got that from?
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Well, clubs seem far more pro active against racism than UEFA have been, with their paltry fines.
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Uefa's regulations and enforcement on racism were devised by the clubs. And then approved by their executive board.
No evidence whatsoever the ESL clubs will adopt a different policy than they have now.
posted on 20/4/21
https://twitter.com/VishwasManUtd/status/1384452019394539521?s=19
posted on 20/4/21
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
posted on 20/4/21
Its pure greed - Greed in football is nothing new.
The super 6 will get richer than the rest of us- They already are. And 1 of the 5 invited clubs will receive far more money than they currently do or would via the Champs League.
Its a closed shop - It isn't.
It will de value the Prem - less so than kicking these clubs out. None of these clubs are Suddenly.going to.sacrifice their own domestic title challenges, especially if their is no risk of dropping out of Europe.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Imagibe you are Leicester and you are told by WBA and Sheffield Utd you can't participate in a super.league worth £350m per season because WBA and Sheff Utd think its unfair.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Imagibe you are Leicester and you are told by WBA and Sheffield Utd you can't participate in a super.league worth £350m per season because WBA and Sheff Utd think its unfair.
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Just imagined it. Absolutely fine with it.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
What are the positives of a Super League RDD?
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More money in the game, bigger and better matches, a body that might do something about racism in the game beyond pitiful fines, an opportunity for smaller clubs to change their fortunes through prize money (Imagine Ajax with £350m every couple of seasons )
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God help us if anyone genuinely believes that what the game is missing is the richest clubs having even more money.
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Imagjne what £350m every few seasons would do for Ajax, Porto, Lyon, Valencia, Villa, lille, Roma
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These clubs aren't going to be part of the ESL though
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
What are the positives of a Super League RDD?
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More money in the game, bigger and better matches, a body that might do something about racism in the game beyond pitiful fines, an opportunity for smaller clubs to change their fortunes through prize money (Imagine Ajax with £350m every couple of seasons )
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God help us if anyone genuinely believes that what the game is missing is the richest clubs having even more money.
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Imagjne what £350m every few seasons would do for Ajax, Porto, Lyon, Valencia, Villa, lille, Roma
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These clubs aren't going to be part of the ESL though
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Maybe they should give everybody a turn to get £350m. Bet Sheff Utd can't wait.
posted on 20/4/21
The ESL is fundamentally cynical opportunism by the elite clubs trying to secure financial stability.
Everything else is window dressing.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 17 minutes ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Well it is bloody typical this has happened!
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
What are the positives of a Super League RDD?
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More money in the game, bigger and better matches, a body that might do something about racism in the game beyond pitiful fines, an opportunity for smaller clubs to change their fortunes through prize money (Imagine Ajax with £350m every couple of seasons )
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God help us if anyone genuinely believes that what the game is missing is the richest clubs having even more money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagjne what £350m every few seasons would do for Ajax, Porto, Lyon, Valencia, Villa, lille, Roma
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These clubs aren't going to be part of the ESL though
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How do you know who will be invited?
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