Oh just fack off, RDD, you absolute cuuuuunt.
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RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Imagibe you are Leicester and you are told by WBA and Sheffield Utd you can't participate in a super.league worth £350m per season because WBA and Sheff Utd think its unfair.
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Just imagined it. Absolutely fine with it.
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Good for you. Poor for Leicester though.
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comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 17 minutes ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Well it is bloody typical this has happened!
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RDD thinks you're very lucky to have the possibility of an opportunity to be maybe invited for a season in the ESL every now and again to play with the big kids. Why aren't you more grateful?
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Oh just fack off, RDD, you absolute cuuuuunt.
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Not a fan then?
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Imagibe you are Leicester and you are told by WBA and Sheffield Utd you can't participate in a super.league worth £350m per season because WBA and Sheff Utd think its unfair.
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Just imagined it. Absolutely fine with it.
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Good for you. Poor for Leicester though.
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Nope, I'm sure they would be absolutely fine with it too
Anyway, until we know all the facts I won't decide how I feel about it, however I can see some positives to it (huge sums of money to clubs and UEFA being took to task)
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Anyway, until we know all the facts I won't decide how I feel about it, however I can see some positives to it (huge sums of money to clubs and UEFA being took to task)
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Huge sums of money to a very few clubs and fck the rest of you?
Classy
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comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 17 minutes ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Well it is bloody typical this has happened!
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RDD thinks you're very lucky to have the possibility of an opportunity to be maybe invited for a season in the ESL every now and again to play with the big kids. Why aren't you more grateful?
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I know, I say thank you for planning on letting us playing in a league with no chance of winning anything, playing with 6 teams who won’t give a poo as they have midweek games to bother about.
Thanks very much
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comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 17 minutes ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Well it is bloody typical this has happened!
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RDD thinks you're very lucky to have the possibility of an opportunity to be maybe invited for a season in the ESL every now and again to play with the big kids. Why aren't you more grateful?
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I know, I say thank you for planning on letting us playing in a league with no chance of winning anything, playing with 6 teams who won’t give a poo as they have midweek games to bother about.
Thanks very much
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We're saving football, apparently.
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
Your biggest danger is your club going bust. Quite a few of the franchises in the usa go pop chasing the money.
Their proposed system is all built on growth and the reality is football is no longer a growing sport.
Tv audiences are declining not becuase of the quality of the games but because their is too much of it.
I think a few of those clubs will end up in financial trouble and as your owned by americans they will just pop your club. They view the world differently to the rest.
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
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How many outside of the Super 6 have qualified for the Champions League over the last decade?
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
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How many outside of the Super 6 have qualified for the Champions League over the last decade?
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One, I think, in Leicester. But Leicester and West Ham are currently third and fourth. Should West Ham make it this year, that will be 2/8 that I can think of. So, one quarter of CL-qualifying teams in the last decade. If you think it’s fair that they should be overlooked for purely selfish financial reasons, then that’s up to you.
It wouldn’t matter if the answer was zero though. How many times have Spurs won the FA Cup in the last decade? Not once. Is it, therefore, acceptable to stop it happening in the future?
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
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How many outside of the Super 6 have qualified for the Champions League over the last decade?
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There's only four places. All 6 want to 'qualify' every year.
This isn't a difficult concept, RDD.
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What are the positives of a Super League RDD?
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More money in the game, bigger and better matches, a body that might do something about racism in the game beyond pitiful fines, an opportunity for smaller clubs to change their fortunes through prize money (Imagine Ajax with £350m every couple of seasons )
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God help us if anyone genuinely believes that what the game is missing is the richest clubs having even more money.
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Imagjne what £350m every few seasons would do for Ajax, Porto, Lyon, Valencia, Villa, lille, Roma
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These clubs aren't going to be part of the ESL though
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How do you know who will be invited?
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The league will have 20 teams - 15 founding members plus five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.
so that leaves 5 sides to be invited, do you think the likes of Lille, Lyon, villa etc will be receiving an invite?
Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this? They struggled against the likes of Deportivo, Valencia, etc not too long ago. Atletico was playing in Liga Segunda around that time.
Tottenham has dicked around for the better part of the last 20 years. Leicester deserves this Super League spot over them
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
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How many outside of the Super 6 have qualified for the Champions League over the last decade?
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City are the only one of them that hasn't failed to qualify for the CL atleast once in the last decade
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posted 54 seconds ago
Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this? They struggled against the likes of Deportivo, Valencia, etc not too long ago. Atletico was playing in Liga Segunda around that time.
Tottenham has dicked around for the better part of the last 20 years. Leicester deserves this Super League spot over them
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It's not about the quality of the sides it's about how much money they can bring in
Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this?
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Really? Are you really asking this?
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 55 minutes ago
i'll add two things:
1) fans of "bigger" clubs spend half of every season whinging about smaller clubs coming and parking the bus - with the euro equivalent being aiming for a 0-0 away from home. a league of stronger teams tends to reduce this tendency, and if there were in fact no relegation we might actually see more open, attacking football (he says naively);
2) i really don't understand how people can say that it would be boring to play madrid/juve/barca twice a year, every year, when we currently play wba/burnley/palace twice a year. christ, have you seen our games with wolves?
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The difference Don is the points. We were all chuffed when we beat Burnley on Sunday, firstly because they have had better of us for a while at OT, but also because we got three points;
Playing against Barca and it means nothing, makes it an exhibition game, and I never watch them.
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posted 23 seconds ago
Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this?
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Really? Are you really asking this?
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Yes. If they did a permanent members league 20 years ago, Barca would not be in this. It'd be a toss up between Deportivo and/or Valencia.
Marseille/Lyon would be the French representation.
Essentially you have to be at the right place at the right time to get an extra £300m in revenues. Sounds dumb
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 57 minutes ago
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
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Why do you keep bringing racism into it.
Why will there be more money, from what source?
Why don't everyone just tune into preseason? It's literally what the Super League is gonna look like.
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Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this?
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Really? Are you really asking this?
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Yes. If they did a permanent members league 20 years ago, Barca would not be in this. It'd be a toss up between Deportivo and/or Valencia.
Marseille/Lyon would be the French representation.
Essentially you have to be at the right place at the right time to get an extra £300m in revenues. Sounds dumb
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Would the Barca of then be something like the Arsenal or United of now?
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posted on 20/4/21
Oh just fack off, RDD, you absolute cuuuuunt.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Imagibe you are Leicester and you are told by WBA and Sheffield Utd you can't participate in a super.league worth £350m per season because WBA and Sheff Utd think its unfair.
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Just imagined it. Absolutely fine with it.
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Good for you. Poor for Leicester though.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Hamilton Fox (U22508)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 17 minutes ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Well it is bloody typical this has happened!
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RDD thinks you're very lucky to have the possibility of an opportunity to be maybe invited for a season in the ESL every now and again to play with the big kids. Why aren't you more grateful?
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Rachel The Queen Riley (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Oh just fack off, RDD, you absolute cuuuuunt.
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Not a fan then?
posted on 20/4/21
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posted 55 seconds ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Imagibe you are Leicester and you are told by WBA and Sheffield Utd you can't participate in a super.league worth £350m per season because WBA and Sheff Utd think its unfair.
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Just imagined it. Absolutely fine with it.
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Good for you. Poor for Leicester though.
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Nope, I'm sure they would be absolutely fine with it too
posted on 20/4/21
Anyway, until we know all the facts I won't decide how I feel about it, however I can see some positives to it (huge sums of money to clubs and UEFA being took to task)
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 29 seconds ago
Anyway, until we know all the facts I won't decide how I feel about it, however I can see some positives to it (huge sums of money to clubs and UEFA being took to task)
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Huge sums of money to a very few clubs and fck the rest of you?
Classy
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The Post Nearly Legacy Fan (U1270)
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posted 34 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 17 minutes ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Well it is bloody typical this has happened!
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RDD thinks you're very lucky to have the possibility of an opportunity to be maybe invited for a season in the ESL every now and again to play with the big kids. Why aren't you more grateful?
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I know, I say thank you for planning on letting us playing in a league with no chance of winning anything, playing with 6 teams who won’t give a poo as they have midweek games to bother about.
Thanks very much
posted on 20/4/21
you must be a yank
posted on 20/4/21
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posted 17 minutes ago
RDD.
Imagine for a second you are a Leicester fan. Your team has spent the last few years steadily building a really good team. It's good enough to get into the Champions League, compete with the best on the continent and get the prize money which comes with it.
All of a sudden a load of clubs who don't like that you've done this have formed a Super League. You'll miss out on the regular income that comes with it because you're not glamorous enough. But Arsenal, a club that have spent the last few years being run horrendously, get in unconditionally because they were more successful over some arbitrary period of history.
And no, the 'extra 5' places aren't much consolation when Arsenal could finish 17th every season and still receive a ridiculous sum of money for it.
That's it really. If you don't understand why that will make teams absolutely furious and destroy the fabric of the sport, I dont really know what else to say.
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Well it is bloody typical this has happened!
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RDD thinks you're very lucky to have the possibility of an opportunity to be maybe invited for a season in the ESL every now and again to play with the big kids. Why aren't you more grateful?
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I know, I say thank you for planning on letting us playing in a league with no chance of winning anything, playing with 6 teams who won’t give a poo as they have midweek games to bother about.
Thanks very much
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We're saving football, apparently.
posted on 20/4/21
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
posted on 20/4/21
Your biggest danger is your club going bust. Quite a few of the franchises in the usa go pop chasing the money.
Their proposed system is all built on growth and the reality is football is no longer a growing sport.
Tv audiences are declining not becuase of the quality of the games but because their is too much of it.
I think a few of those clubs will end up in financial trouble and as your owned by americans they will just pop your club. They view the world differently to the rest.
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
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How many outside of the Super 6 have qualified for the Champions League over the last decade?
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
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How many outside of the Super 6 have qualified for the Champions League over the last decade?
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One, I think, in Leicester. But Leicester and West Ham are currently third and fourth. Should West Ham make it this year, that will be 2/8 that I can think of. So, one quarter of CL-qualifying teams in the last decade. If you think it’s fair that they should be overlooked for purely selfish financial reasons, then that’s up to you.
It wouldn’t matter if the answer was zero though. How many times have Spurs won the FA Cup in the last decade? Not once. Is it, therefore, acceptable to stop it happening in the future?
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
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How many outside of the Super 6 have qualified for the Champions League over the last decade?
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There's only four places. All 6 want to 'qualify' every year.
This isn't a difficult concept, RDD.
posted on 20/4/21
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What are the positives of a Super League RDD?
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More money in the game, bigger and better matches, a body that might do something about racism in the game beyond pitiful fines, an opportunity for smaller clubs to change their fortunes through prize money (Imagine Ajax with £350m every couple of seasons )
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God help us if anyone genuinely believes that what the game is missing is the richest clubs having even more money.
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Imagjne what £350m every few seasons would do for Ajax, Porto, Lyon, Valencia, Villa, lille, Roma
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These clubs aren't going to be part of the ESL though
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How do you know who will be invited?
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The league will have 20 teams - 15 founding members plus five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.
so that leaves 5 sides to be invited, do you think the likes of Lille, Lyon, villa etc will be receiving an invite?
posted on 20/4/21
Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this? They struggled against the likes of Deportivo, Valencia, etc not too long ago. Atletico was playing in Liga Segunda around that time.
Tottenham has dicked around for the better part of the last 20 years. Leicester deserves this Super League spot over them
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villa manage to make it one year 10 years down the line they get 350m, great. but theres 15 clubs in it that have made 3.5billion as theyre immune to relegationdoesnt matter how bad theyve been if they finished last or played the u12s for 10 years just to take the piiss
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Or Villa could qualify the first season and every other season after that.
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still makes no difference theyre at a disadvantage, 15 of the 20 clubs can do whatever the fack they like and still be guaranteed their place and 350m a year from it. Villa cant.
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Their are many clubs that are nice or less guaranteed their places in the Prem indefinelty. Do you have an issue with that?
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not quite guaranteed anything then really are they numbnuts? thats the point. These clubs if they facked up badly have a lot to lose. And thats the biggest reason this super league is happening because they dont like that and have decided to try and remove it.
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City and Liverpool have walked the league for how many seasons.
How many outside.of the suoer league sides have qualified for champs league in thr last decade?
This whole no jeopardy argument is hollow.
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Liverpool and City have dominated partly because they have had arguably the game’s top two managers during a period where other top teams have been messing up their rebuilds. It happens. United and Arsenal dominated, then United and Chelsea, now it’s a different pair.
As for CL qualification - it wasn’t long ago that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated here. Since about 2009, City, Spurs and Leicester have all got in on the act, with one or two “outsiders” pushing this season.
The “no jeopardy” argument is far from hollow. Although the permutations of a long campaign always mean you get a few dead rubbers and teams “on the beach” after a certain stage, I think from January onwards, under this format, a few of the better teams in the league (but not the top one/two) will have very little to play for in league games, if they’re neither chasing the title nor fighting relegation. That’s too much.
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How many outside of the Super 6 have qualified for the Champions League over the last decade?
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City are the only one of them that hasn't failed to qualify for the CL atleast once in the last decade
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
posted 54 seconds ago
Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this? They struggled against the likes of Deportivo, Valencia, etc not too long ago. Atletico was playing in Liga Segunda around that time.
Tottenham has dicked around for the better part of the last 20 years. Leicester deserves this Super League spot over them
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It's not about the quality of the sides it's about how much money they can bring in
posted on 20/4/21
Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this?
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Really? Are you really asking this?
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 55 minutes ago
i'll add two things:
1) fans of "bigger" clubs spend half of every season whinging about smaller clubs coming and parking the bus - with the euro equivalent being aiming for a 0-0 away from home. a league of stronger teams tends to reduce this tendency, and if there were in fact no relegation we might actually see more open, attacking football (he says naively);
2) i really don't understand how people can say that it would be boring to play madrid/juve/barca twice a year, every year, when we currently play wba/burnley/palace twice a year. christ, have you seen our games with wolves?
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The difference Don is the points. We were all chuffed when we beat Burnley on Sunday, firstly because they have had better of us for a while at OT, but also because we got three points;
Playing against Barca and it means nothing, makes it an exhibition game, and I never watch them.
posted on 20/4/21
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posted 23 seconds ago
Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this?
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Really? Are you really asking this?
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Yes. If they did a permanent members league 20 years ago, Barca would not be in this. It'd be a toss up between Deportivo and/or Valencia.
Marseille/Lyon would be the French representation.
Essentially you have to be at the right place at the right time to get an extra £300m in revenues. Sounds dumb
posted on 20/4/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 57 minutes ago
Spending rules
More entertaining fixtures
Hopefully, a harsher stance on racism
Far more wealth being shared with clubs (the other 5)
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Why do you keep bringing racism into it.
Why will there be more money, from what source?
posted on 20/4/21
Why don't everyone just tune into preseason? It's literally what the Super League is gonna look like.
posted on 20/4/21
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
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comment by Rachel The Queen Riley (U10026)
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Here's a question. Why would Barca be a permanent member of this?
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Really? Are you really asking this?
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Yes. If they did a permanent members league 20 years ago, Barca would not be in this. It'd be a toss up between Deportivo and/or Valencia.
Marseille/Lyon would be the French representation.
Essentially you have to be at the right place at the right time to get an extra £300m in revenues. Sounds dumb
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Would the Barca of then be something like the Arsenal or United of now?
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