comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
That one will test rosso’s knowledge of memes.
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Just had to Google it
For the purpose of this post, my personal cynicism will be ignored and I'll try to be as singular minded as I can.
The Taliban wish to live and govern by a doctrine which contravenes human rights legislation and goes against both UN and NATO policy.
The 20 year campaign to establish Afghan governance where all it's people are free to live as they choose has collapsed 1 month after Western occupation and support ends.
Regardless of how an individual may feel about this occupation, men and women from Afghanistan and many other nations have died believing that they were defending and fighting for the rights and liberties of Afghan people.
For the Taliban to assume control again reverts everything back to square on and is the ultimate disrespect and disregard of those who sacrificed themselves.
In no uncertain terms can good people tolerate this course of events. The Taliban can not be allowed to take control again after the price which has been paid.
Immediate further occupation is a necessary action, both for the people living in Afghanistan and for the people who are not living anymore.
If this is the result of supporting forces leaving the area, then the Afghan government which was established clearly has not the capabilities to sustain itself as an independent nation which can protect it's people.
If this is the case, then to protect the citizens of Afghanistan, Afghanistan must cede its sovereignty and join with 1 or more other nations who are able to defend against Tabilan uprising. This is not the ideal scenario, but it is the scenario faced.
British Afghanistan and/or American Afghanistan may be the outcomes of this. There are many issues with those outcomes, but people's lives and freedoms must come first and peoples sacrifices must be honoured.
The West scarified a lot of Afghanistan, my brother in law did three tours out there and he isn't remotely shocked we are immediately in this position as soon as Western forces left.
It's time the Middle East (UAE, Iran, Saudi etc) deal with it rather than the West for me.
News For All
@NewsForAllUK
Taliban fighters have shot and killed a woman for not wearing a burqa
Via
@nypost
Didn’t take long
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
The West scarified a lot of Afghanistan, my brother in law did three tours out there and he isn't remotely shocked we are immediately in this position as soon as Western forces left.
It's time the Middle East (UAE, Iran, Saudi etc) deal with it rather than the West for me.
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Can’t imagine that the powers that be in Saudi or UAE will be particularly bothered about developments.
The Taliban are Sunni Islamists fundamentalists, like the Saudis, who openly supported the Taliban until 2013.
The Saudi monarchy continued to allow private donors (primarily Wahhabi businessmen and the political elite) residing in Saudi Arabia to financially assist the Taliban as late as 2011, and also actively helped the Taliban collect tax revenue from Pashtun living in Saudi.
But Saudi Arabia are obviously our great allies, so we shouldn’t really criticise, should we? I mean, they must have had their reasons.
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
The West scarified a lot of Afghanistan, my brother in law did three tours out there and he isn't remotely shocked we are immediately in this position as soon as Western forces left.
It's time the Middle East (UAE, Iran, Saudi etc) deal with it rather than the West for me.
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Can’t imagine that the powers that be in Saudi or UAE will be particularly bothered about developments.
The Taliban are Sunni Islamists fundamentalists, like the Saudis, who openly supported the Taliban until 2013.
The Saudi monarchy continued to allow private donors (primarily Wahhabi businessmen and the political elite) residing in Saudi Arabia to financially assist the Taliban as late as 2011, and also actively helped the Taliban collect tax revenue from Pashtun living in Saudi.
But Saudi Arabia are obviously our great allies, so we shouldn’t really criticise, should we? I mean, they must have had their reasons.
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I know, what's a little torture, murder and borderline genocide between friends. The Donald absolutely loved them and gave them his blessing to continue terrorising the muslim world
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
There isn't nearly enough push back from people who are free of religious cults to call out the idiocy of other peoples beliefs IMO. It's quite clear what religion is. We're far to accepting of it.
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Agree completely. If you believe in a god of any kind you have already shown you have zero common sense. Would be great if we had more people like Gervais and Stephen Fry speak out and show it up for what it is.
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
There isn't nearly enough push back from people who are free of religious cults to call out the idiocy of other peoples beliefs IMO. It's quite clear what religion is. We're far to accepting of it.
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Agree completely. If you believe in a god of any kind you have already shown you have zero common sense. Would be great if we had more people like Gervais and Stephen Fry speak out and show it up for what it is.
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Yep. Used to love Hitchens (the smart one) tearing them apart.
The USA has weak leadership now, no world leader respects Biden, the problem is the media has been covering his shortcomings, he's not cognitively able to lead a brewery let alone USA. Imagine, instead of heavy handling Putin about the hacked oil Pipeline, he gives them a list of things not to touch!
They know he's a soft touch, love him or hate him, Trump had these world leaders under control, if something like this happened Trump would've reacted strongly and they know that. He made agreements with many Muslims states, all that work now gone down the drain.
Biden is a liability to the world, he hasn't got a clue what he's doing, God help us!
https://youtu.be/DztdH9DylNw
The Taliban is as reliable as Pep updating the press on team selections.
Shows how naive the American government was in believing a damn word they said. Orange man bad
You think Trump had respect And to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 13 seconds ago
The USA has weak leadership now, no world leader respects Biden, the problem is the media has been covering his shortcomings, he's not cognitively able to lead a brewery let alone USA. Imagine, instead of heavy handling Putin about the hacked oil Pipeline, he gives them a list of things not to touch!
They know he's a soft touch, love him or hate him, Trump had these world leaders under control, if something like this happened Trump would've reacted strongly and they know that. He made agreements with many Muslims states, all that work now gone down the drain.
Biden is a liability to the world, he hasn't got a clue what he's doing, God help us!
https://youtu.be/DztdH9DylNw
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"Trump had these world leaders under control"
Yup, he really took the Saudi's to task over the murder of Kashoggi, stopped the UAE from financing warlords in Libya trying to overthrow the UN sanctioned government, stood up to Russia over their payment of bounties on American's troops, praised Russia's own invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 but publically advocated the withdrawal of US troops, praising it when it started, but criticising it for taking too long. Guy was a shambles
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 45 seconds ago
You think Trump had respectAnd to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
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That was Obama who released the man behind the Kabul operation.
Trump stated he would begin bringing troops home when conditions were met. As far as I'm aware, they didn't meet those conditions so he was like meh, leave them there.
comment by Mr. McGibblets (Freedom FC) (U7214)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 45 seconds ago
You think Trump had respectAnd to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
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That was Obama who released the man behind the Kabul operation.
Trump stated he would begin bringing troops home when conditions were met. As far as I'm aware, they didn't meet those conditions so he was like meh, leave them there.
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The Taliban leader was released three years ago after a request from the US and Trump
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 as a withdrawal deadline and added that "we should keep as close to that schedule as possible."
"I wish Joe Biden wouldn't use September 11 as the date to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan. We can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long,"
Sounds like he was right behind it. Interestingly, the GOP have removed all references to his Afghanistan withdrawal proposals and peace achievements in the middle east today from their website, you just get a '404 Page Not Found'. Almost like it never happened, eh?
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mr. McGibblets (Freedom FC) (U7214)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 45 seconds ago
You think Trump had respectAnd to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
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That was Obama who released the man behind the Kabul operation.
Trump stated he would begin bringing troops home when conditions were met. As far as I'm aware, they didn't meet those conditions so he was like meh, leave them there.
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The Taliban leader was released three years ago after a request from the US and Trump
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I must be thinking of someone else then.
comment by Mr. McGibblets (Freedom FC) (U7214)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 45 seconds ago
You think Trump had respectAnd to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was Obama who released the man behind the Kabul operation.
Trump stated he would begin bringing troops home when conditions were met. As far as I'm aware, they didn't meet those conditions so he was like meh, leave them there.
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Trump said he’d have US troops out by May.
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Our Number 7 is the King of Uruguay (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 as a withdrawal deadline and added that "we should keep as close to that schedule as possible."
"I wish Joe Biden wouldn't use September 11 as the date to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan. We can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long,"
Sounds like he was right behind it. Interestingly, the GOP have removed all references to his Afghanistan withdrawal proposals and peace achievements in the middle east today from their website, you just get a '404 Page Not Found'. Almost like it never happened, eh?
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It is pathetic isn't it. But that is enough to continue to fool the parties moron followers.
Then there's Mike Pompeo's trip to Afghanistan where he was pictured negotiating with The Taliban, including one of the top leaders Abdul Ghani Baradar.
Looks like the Trump administration was legitimising The Taliban in advance.
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Our Number 7 is the King of Uruguay (U1270)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 13 seconds ago
The USA has weak leadership now, no world leader respects Biden, the problem is the media has been covering his shortcomings, he's not cognitively able to lead a brewery let alone USA. Imagine, instead of heavy handling Putin about the hacked oil Pipeline, he gives them a list of things not to touch!
They know he's a soft touch, love him or hate him, Trump had these world leaders under control, if something like this happened Trump would've reacted strongly and they know that. He made agreements with many Muslims states, all that work now gone down the drain.
Biden is a liability to the world, he hasn't got a clue what he's doing, God help us!
https://youtu.be/DztdH9DylNw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Trump had these world leaders under control"
Yup, he really took the Saudi's to task over the murder of Kashoggi, stopped the UAE from financing warlords in Libya trying to overthrow the UN sanctioned government, stood up to Russia over their payment of bounties on American's troops, praised Russia's own invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 but publically advocated the withdrawal of US troops, praising it when it started, but criticising it for taking too long. Guy was a shambles
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We also have Trump to thank for Iran starting to enrich weapons grade uranium again, and the latest Kim accelerating NK’s ballistic missile program.
But yeah, he had them under control
NEW: Afghan ambassador in Tajikistan says President Ashraf Ghani escaped with $169m worth of cash in bags before Kabul fell to the Taliban
Via
@BBCNews
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury. (U12980)
posted 35 seconds ago
NEW: Afghan ambassador in Tajikistan says President Ashraf Ghani escaped with $169m worth of cash in bags before Kabul fell to the Taliban
Via
@BBCNews
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In case anyone wonders who the morons are, the Republicans are the ones that base their voting on a belief in god ahead of anything else.
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Our Number 7 is the King of Uruguay (U1270)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 13 seconds ago
The USA has weak leadership now, no world leader respects Biden, the problem is the media has been covering his shortcomings, he's not cognitively able to lead a brewery let alone USA. Imagine, instead of heavy handling Putin about the hacked oil Pipeline, he gives them a list of things not to touch!
They know he's a soft touch, love him or hate him, Trump had these world leaders under control, if something like this happened Trump would've reacted strongly and they know that. He made agreements with many Muslims states, all that work now gone down the drain.
Biden is a liability to the world, he hasn't got a clue what he's doing, God help us!
https://youtu.be/DztdH9DylNw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Trump had these world leaders under control"
Yup, he really took the Saudi's to task over the murder of Kashoggi, stopped the UAE from financing warlords in Libya trying to overthrow the UN sanctioned government, stood up to Russia over their payment of bounties on American's troops, praised Russia's own invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 but publically advocated the withdrawal of US troops, praising it when it started, but criticising it for taking too long. Guy was a shambles
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We also have Trump to thank for Iran starting to enrich weapons grade uranium again, and the latest Kim accelerating NK’s ballistic missile program.
But yeah, he had them under control
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It's real life doublethink, isn't it?
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
There isn't nearly enough push back from people who are free of religious cults to call out the idiocy of other peoples beliefs IMO. It's quite clear what religion is. We're far to accepting of it.
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Agree completely. If you believe in a god of any kind you have already shown you have zero common sense. Would be great if we had more people like Gervais and Stephen Fry speak out and show it up for what it is.
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Yep. Used to love Hitchens (the smart one) tearing them apart.
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Big fan.
I've never bought the interpretation argument that's being banded about in the news. Peaceful Muslims are interpreting their religion how they see fit. Islamists use it as a manual. The Taliban are using their religion to implement rules and law that have been advised directly by their god. How can that be left to interpretation when it's written down for all to see? They believe in it. People wouldn't be blowing themselves up if they didn't. If the texts weren't there, they wouldn't have anything to believe in.
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posted on 18/8/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
That one will test rosso’s knowledge of memes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just had to Google it
posted on 18/8/21
For the purpose of this post, my personal cynicism will be ignored and I'll try to be as singular minded as I can.
The Taliban wish to live and govern by a doctrine which contravenes human rights legislation and goes against both UN and NATO policy.
The 20 year campaign to establish Afghan governance where all it's people are free to live as they choose has collapsed 1 month after Western occupation and support ends.
Regardless of how an individual may feel about this occupation, men and women from Afghanistan and many other nations have died believing that they were defending and fighting for the rights and liberties of Afghan people.
For the Taliban to assume control again reverts everything back to square on and is the ultimate disrespect and disregard of those who sacrificed themselves.
In no uncertain terms can good people tolerate this course of events. The Taliban can not be allowed to take control again after the price which has been paid.
Immediate further occupation is a necessary action, both for the people living in Afghanistan and for the people who are not living anymore.
If this is the result of supporting forces leaving the area, then the Afghan government which was established clearly has not the capabilities to sustain itself as an independent nation which can protect it's people.
If this is the case, then to protect the citizens of Afghanistan, Afghanistan must cede its sovereignty and join with 1 or more other nations who are able to defend against Tabilan uprising. This is not the ideal scenario, but it is the scenario faced.
British Afghanistan and/or American Afghanistan may be the outcomes of this. There are many issues with those outcomes, but people's lives and freedoms must come first and peoples sacrifices must be honoured.
posted on 18/8/21
The West scarified a lot of Afghanistan, my brother in law did three tours out there and he isn't remotely shocked we are immediately in this position as soon as Western forces left.
It's time the Middle East (UAE, Iran, Saudi etc) deal with it rather than the West for me.
posted on 18/8/21
News For All
@NewsForAllUK
Taliban fighters have shot and killed a woman for not wearing a burqa
Via
@nypost
Didn’t take long
posted on 18/8/21
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
The West scarified a lot of Afghanistan, my brother in law did three tours out there and he isn't remotely shocked we are immediately in this position as soon as Western forces left.
It's time the Middle East (UAE, Iran, Saudi etc) deal with it rather than the West for me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can’t imagine that the powers that be in Saudi or UAE will be particularly bothered about developments.
The Taliban are Sunni Islamists fundamentalists, like the Saudis, who openly supported the Taliban until 2013.
The Saudi monarchy continued to allow private donors (primarily Wahhabi businessmen and the political elite) residing in Saudi Arabia to financially assist the Taliban as late as 2011, and also actively helped the Taliban collect tax revenue from Pashtun living in Saudi.
But Saudi Arabia are obviously our great allies, so we shouldn’t really criticise, should we? I mean, they must have had their reasons.
posted on 18/8/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
The West scarified a lot of Afghanistan, my brother in law did three tours out there and he isn't remotely shocked we are immediately in this position as soon as Western forces left.
It's time the Middle East (UAE, Iran, Saudi etc) deal with it rather than the West for me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can’t imagine that the powers that be in Saudi or UAE will be particularly bothered about developments.
The Taliban are Sunni Islamists fundamentalists, like the Saudis, who openly supported the Taliban until 2013.
The Saudi monarchy continued to allow private donors (primarily Wahhabi businessmen and the political elite) residing in Saudi Arabia to financially assist the Taliban as late as 2011, and also actively helped the Taliban collect tax revenue from Pashtun living in Saudi.
But Saudi Arabia are obviously our great allies, so we shouldn’t really criticise, should we? I mean, they must have had their reasons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know, what's a little torture, murder and borderline genocide between friends. The Donald absolutely loved them and gave them his blessing to continue terrorising the muslim world
posted on 18/8/21
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
There isn't nearly enough push back from people who are free of religious cults to call out the idiocy of other peoples beliefs IMO. It's quite clear what religion is. We're far to accepting of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree completely. If you believe in a god of any kind you have already shown you have zero common sense. Would be great if we had more people like Gervais and Stephen Fry speak out and show it up for what it is.
posted on 18/8/21
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
There isn't nearly enough push back from people who are free of religious cults to call out the idiocy of other peoples beliefs IMO. It's quite clear what religion is. We're far to accepting of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree completely. If you believe in a god of any kind you have already shown you have zero common sense. Would be great if we had more people like Gervais and Stephen Fry speak out and show it up for what it is.
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Yep. Used to love Hitchens (the smart one) tearing them apart.
posted on 18/8/21
The USA has weak leadership now, no world leader respects Biden, the problem is the media has been covering his shortcomings, he's not cognitively able to lead a brewery let alone USA. Imagine, instead of heavy handling Putin about the hacked oil Pipeline, he gives them a list of things not to touch!
They know he's a soft touch, love him or hate him, Trump had these world leaders under control, if something like this happened Trump would've reacted strongly and they know that. He made agreements with many Muslims states, all that work now gone down the drain.
Biden is a liability to the world, he hasn't got a clue what he's doing, God help us!
https://youtu.be/DztdH9DylNw
posted on 18/8/21
The Taliban is as reliable as Pep updating the press on team selections.
Shows how naive the American government was in believing a damn word they said. Orange man bad
posted on 18/8/21
You think Trump had respect And to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
posted on 18/8/21
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 13 seconds ago
The USA has weak leadership now, no world leader respects Biden, the problem is the media has been covering his shortcomings, he's not cognitively able to lead a brewery let alone USA. Imagine, instead of heavy handling Putin about the hacked oil Pipeline, he gives them a list of things not to touch!
They know he's a soft touch, love him or hate him, Trump had these world leaders under control, if something like this happened Trump would've reacted strongly and they know that. He made agreements with many Muslims states, all that work now gone down the drain.
Biden is a liability to the world, he hasn't got a clue what he's doing, God help us!
https://youtu.be/DztdH9DylNw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Trump had these world leaders under control"
Yup, he really took the Saudi's to task over the murder of Kashoggi, stopped the UAE from financing warlords in Libya trying to overthrow the UN sanctioned government, stood up to Russia over their payment of bounties on American's troops, praised Russia's own invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 but publically advocated the withdrawal of US troops, praising it when it started, but criticising it for taking too long. Guy was a shambles
posted on 18/8/21
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 45 seconds ago
You think Trump had respectAnd to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was Obama who released the man behind the Kabul operation.
Trump stated he would begin bringing troops home when conditions were met. As far as I'm aware, they didn't meet those conditions so he was like meh, leave them there.
posted on 18/8/21
comment by Mr. McGibblets (Freedom FC) (U7214)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 45 seconds ago
You think Trump had respectAnd to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was Obama who released the man behind the Kabul operation.
Trump stated he would begin bringing troops home when conditions were met. As far as I'm aware, they didn't meet those conditions so he was like meh, leave them there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Taliban leader was released three years ago after a request from the US and Trump
posted on 18/8/21
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 as a withdrawal deadline and added that "we should keep as close to that schedule as possible."
"I wish Joe Biden wouldn't use September 11 as the date to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan. We can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long,"
Sounds like he was right behind it. Interestingly, the GOP have removed all references to his Afghanistan withdrawal proposals and peace achievements in the middle east today from their website, you just get a '404 Page Not Found'. Almost like it never happened, eh?
posted on 18/8/21
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mr. McGibblets (Freedom FC) (U7214)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 45 seconds ago
You think Trump had respectAnd to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was Obama who released the man behind the Kabul operation.
Trump stated he would begin bringing troops home when conditions were met. As far as I'm aware, they didn't meet those conditions so he was like meh, leave them there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Taliban leader was released three years ago after a request from the US and Trump
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I must be thinking of someone else then.
posted on 18/8/21
comment by Mr. McGibblets (Freedom FC) (U7214)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 45 seconds ago
You think Trump had respectAnd to be clear here, what is happening now is stuff set in motion while Trump was in power. Wasn't the Taliban leader released from prison and wined and dined by Trump and his clowns a couple of years ago?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was Obama who released the man behind the Kabul operation.
Trump stated he would begin bringing troops home when conditions were met. As far as I'm aware, they didn't meet those conditions so he was like meh, leave them there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump said he’d have US troops out by May.
posted on 18/8/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Our Number 7 is the King of Uruguay (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 as a withdrawal deadline and added that "we should keep as close to that schedule as possible."
"I wish Joe Biden wouldn't use September 11 as the date to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan. We can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long,"
Sounds like he was right behind it. Interestingly, the GOP have removed all references to his Afghanistan withdrawal proposals and peace achievements in the middle east today from their website, you just get a '404 Page Not Found'. Almost like it never happened, eh?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is pathetic isn't it. But that is enough to continue to fool the parties moron followers.
posted on 18/8/21
Then there's Mike Pompeo's trip to Afghanistan where he was pictured negotiating with The Taliban, including one of the top leaders Abdul Ghani Baradar.
Looks like the Trump administration was legitimising The Taliban in advance.
posted on 18/8/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Our Number 7 is the King of Uruguay (U1270)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 13 seconds ago
The USA has weak leadership now, no world leader respects Biden, the problem is the media has been covering his shortcomings, he's not cognitively able to lead a brewery let alone USA. Imagine, instead of heavy handling Putin about the hacked oil Pipeline, he gives them a list of things not to touch!
They know he's a soft touch, love him or hate him, Trump had these world leaders under control, if something like this happened Trump would've reacted strongly and they know that. He made agreements with many Muslims states, all that work now gone down the drain.
Biden is a liability to the world, he hasn't got a clue what he's doing, God help us!
https://youtu.be/DztdH9DylNw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Trump had these world leaders under control"
Yup, he really took the Saudi's to task over the murder of Kashoggi, stopped the UAE from financing warlords in Libya trying to overthrow the UN sanctioned government, stood up to Russia over their payment of bounties on American's troops, praised Russia's own invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 but publically advocated the withdrawal of US troops, praising it when it started, but criticising it for taking too long. Guy was a shambles
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We also have Trump to thank for Iran starting to enrich weapons grade uranium again, and the latest Kim accelerating NK’s ballistic missile program.
But yeah, he had them under control
posted on 18/8/21
NEW: Afghan ambassador in Tajikistan says President Ashraf Ghani escaped with $169m worth of cash in bags before Kabul fell to the Taliban
Via
@BBCNews
posted on 18/8/21
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury. (U12980)
posted 35 seconds ago
NEW: Afghan ambassador in Tajikistan says President Ashraf Ghani escaped with $169m worth of cash in bags before Kabul fell to the Taliban
Via
@BBCNews
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posted on 18/8/21
In case anyone wonders who the morons are, the Republicans are the ones that base their voting on a belief in god ahead of anything else.
posted on 18/8/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Our Number 7 is the King of Uruguay (U1270)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 13 seconds ago
The USA has weak leadership now, no world leader respects Biden, the problem is the media has been covering his shortcomings, he's not cognitively able to lead a brewery let alone USA. Imagine, instead of heavy handling Putin about the hacked oil Pipeline, he gives them a list of things not to touch!
They know he's a soft touch, love him or hate him, Trump had these world leaders under control, if something like this happened Trump would've reacted strongly and they know that. He made agreements with many Muslims states, all that work now gone down the drain.
Biden is a liability to the world, he hasn't got a clue what he's doing, God help us!
https://youtu.be/DztdH9DylNw
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"Trump had these world leaders under control"
Yup, he really took the Saudi's to task over the murder of Kashoggi, stopped the UAE from financing warlords in Libya trying to overthrow the UN sanctioned government, stood up to Russia over their payment of bounties on American's troops, praised Russia's own invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 but publically advocated the withdrawal of US troops, praising it when it started, but criticising it for taking too long. Guy was a shambles
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We also have Trump to thank for Iran starting to enrich weapons grade uranium again, and the latest Kim accelerating NK’s ballistic missile program.
But yeah, he had them under control
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It's real life doublethink, isn't it?
posted on 18/8/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
There isn't nearly enough push back from people who are free of religious cults to call out the idiocy of other peoples beliefs IMO. It's quite clear what religion is. We're far to accepting of it.
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Agree completely. If you believe in a god of any kind you have already shown you have zero common sense. Would be great if we had more people like Gervais and Stephen Fry speak out and show it up for what it is.
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Yep. Used to love Hitchens (the smart one) tearing them apart.
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Big fan.
I've never bought the interpretation argument that's being banded about in the news. Peaceful Muslims are interpreting their religion how they see fit. Islamists use it as a manual. The Taliban are using their religion to implement rules and law that have been advised directly by their god. How can that be left to interpretation when it's written down for all to see? They believe in it. People wouldn't be blowing themselves up if they didn't. If the texts weren't there, they wouldn't have anything to believe in.
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