comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
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Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Well it is until they end up in hospital clogging up vital space and time and interfering with other sick people getting help(something you covid/vax deniers have gone on about for an age).
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They're not clogging up hospitals though.
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Of course they are. Anyone in hospital with Covid and unvaxxed is a cant, pure and simple.
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
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I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Getting annoyed at unvaccinated people is like getting annoyed at sky divers.
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Fair point, we know both are just massive cants
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Says the man who is 'inclusive' but wishes to shoot anyone that disagrees with him.
And people call me mad!
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
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Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Yes they can, but it is less likely.
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Less likely? So why are the majority of Covid hospitalisations currently double/treble vaxxed?
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They’re not.
And you know this.
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Getting annoyed at unvaccinated people is like getting annoyed at sky divers.
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Fair point, we know both are just massive cants
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Says the man who is 'inclusive' but wishes to shoot anyone that disagrees with him.
And people call me mad!
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Eliminate the morons, the world is a better place.
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Unfortunately though, in the context of vaccine passports - which is what’s being discussed above - that choice may have consequences.
I can’t stress strongly enough that I don’t like the idea of vaccine passports, I really don’t. But (I think I said this the other day, maybe on this same thread) if someone chooses not to get jabbed, even if it feels like the right choice for them it risks prolonging the pandemic (if enough people take that same choice).
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How does it prolong the pandemic?
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
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I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
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I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Yes they can, but it is less likely.
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Less likely? So why are the majority of Covid hospitalisations currently double/treble vaxxed?
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This could be for a few reasons. One could be that a very high percentage of the country is vaccinated. So even if you had an exact 50:50 split of vaccinated and unvaccinated in hospital, you’d already be tending towards the conclusion that vaccinations were helping. Then I’d also imagine that a lot of vaccinated people who end up in hospital are very old and/or vulnerable, where even the effect of a vaccine doesn’t help enough. Those groups are largely vaccinated. The government did predict back in spring that a winter wave would see more vaccinated people in hospital for precisely this reason.
I see a lot of people crowing about how vaccines haven’t worked etc but they totally overlook one thing that appears hard to avoid: if things are bad now, they would be a lot worse without the vaccines.
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70% of the poluation is vaccinated. A large portion that aren't will be kids, who don't suffer as bad. So no surprise that there are more hospitalisations of people double/triple jabbed
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But the majority are not in for Covid.
So was it worth shutting the world for a disease that is clearly not as bad as it's portrayed to be for the majority of us?
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Yes, because it is as bad if you die from it.
You are prepared to see a million ? two million ? people die, so that we can carry on out lives as before
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
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I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah they put videos on youtube, spreading dangerous manoeuvres, encouraging others. Cars should be compulsory for motorbikists so that I am less likely to dent my bumper by hitting a motorbikist cos they will be less of them.
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes they can, but it is less likely.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Less likely? So why are the majority of Covid hospitalisations currently double/treble vaxxed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This could be for a few reasons. One could be that a very high percentage of the country is vaccinated. So even if you had an exact 50:50 split of vaccinated and unvaccinated in hospital, you’d already be tending towards the conclusion that vaccinations were helping. Then I’d also imagine that a lot of vaccinated people who end up in hospital are very old and/or vulnerable, where even the effect of a vaccine doesn’t help enough. Those groups are largely vaccinated. The government did predict back in spring that a winter wave would see more vaccinated people in hospital for precisely this reason.
I see a lot of people crowing about how vaccines haven’t worked etc but they totally overlook one thing that appears hard to avoid: if things are bad now, they would be a lot worse without the vaccines.
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70% of the poluation is vaccinated. A large portion that aren't will be kids, who don't suffer as bad. So no surprise that there are more hospitalisations of people double/triple jabbed
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But the majority are not in for Covid.
So was it worth shutting the world for a disease that is clearly not as bad as it's portrayed to be for the majority of us?
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So the stage is yours. What do you propose happens?
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah they put videos on youtube, spreading dangerous manoeuvres, encouraging others. Cars should be compulsory for motorbikists so that I am less likely to dent my bumper by hitting a motorbikist cos they will be less of them.
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Good point well made. Yeah but if bikermotors are all going around 4 wheel cars like real people how do you know which ones you can run over when you're driving home drunk from the pub?
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah they put videos on youtube, spreading dangerous manoeuvres, encouraging others. Cars should be compulsory for motorbikists so that I am less likely to dent my bumper by hitting a motorbikist cos they will be less of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point well made. Yeah but if bikermotors are all going around 4 wheel cars like real people how do you know which ones you can run over when you're driving home drunk from the pub?
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It's a good point. Cars on front usually come in pairs when I am driving home. They drive side by side for some reason on single carriageway roads. Identical cars as well. Very odd.
I find people wearing masks in their cars while they're on their own very silly but I guess they're not doing any harm!
Covidiots would describe the Tory government on repeat
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Well it is until they end up in hospital clogging up vital space and time and interfering with other sick people getting help(something you covid/vax deniers have gone on about for an age).
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They're not clogging up hospitals though.
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Of course they are. Anyone in hospital with Covid and unvaxxed is a cant, pure and simple.
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Because they don't agree with your view? Grow up.
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah they put videos on youtube, spreading dangerous manoeuvres, encouraging others. Cars should be compulsory for motorbikists so that I am less likely to dent my bumper by hitting a motorbikist cos they will be less of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point well made. Yeah but if bikermotors are all going around 4 wheel cars like real people how do you know which ones you can run over when you're driving home drunk from the pub?
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It's a good point. Cars on front usually come in pairs when I am driving home. They drive side by side for some reason on single carriageway roads. Identical cars as well. Very odd.
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I completely disagree you cretin. That sounds like a normal Friday night.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 29 seconds ago
I find people wearing masks in their cars while they're on their own very silly but I guess they're not doing any harm!
Covidiots would describe the Tory government on repeat
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How the hell do they smell where they are going if they're wearing a mask?? Asking for a friend. My friend is a dog.
Your dog smells like ass.
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes they can, but it is less likely.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Less likely? So why are the majority of Covid hospitalisations currently double/treble vaxxed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This could be for a few reasons. One could be that a very high percentage of the country is vaccinated. So even if you had an exact 50:50 split of vaccinated and unvaccinated in hospital, you’d already be tending towards the conclusion that vaccinations were helping. Then I’d also imagine that a lot of vaccinated people who end up in hospital are very old and/or vulnerable, where even the effect of a vaccine doesn’t help enough. Those groups are largely vaccinated. The government did predict back in spring that a winter wave would see more vaccinated people in hospital for precisely this reason.
I see a lot of people crowing about how vaccines haven’t worked etc but they totally overlook one thing that appears hard to avoid: if things are bad now, they would be a lot worse without the vaccines.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
70% of the poluation is vaccinated. A large portion that aren't will be kids, who don't suffer as bad. So no surprise that there are more hospitalisations of people double/triple jabbed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the majority are not in for Covid.
So was it worth shutting the world for a disease that is clearly not as bad as it's portrayed to be for the majority of us?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the stage is yours. What do you propose happens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Open up or regret it forever.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they are far less likely to die
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But that's their risk. Their choice.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately though, in the context of vaccine passports - which is what’s being discussed above - that choice may have consequences.
I can’t stress strongly enough that I don’t like the idea of vaccine passports, I really don’t. But (I think I said this the other day, maybe on this same thread) if someone chooses not to get jabbed, even if it feels like the right choice for them it risks prolonging the pandemic (if enough people take that same choice).
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How does it prolong the pandemic?
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Doesn’t it? I’m no expert but thought it was largely agreed that the quickest and safest way to herd immunity was vaccination. Not that it’s as quick (or perhaps even as safe) as we’d like, but the higher percentage of people who are likely to be seriously ill, the better?
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they are far less likely to die
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But that's their risk. Their choice.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately though, in the context of vaccine passports - which is what’s being discussed above - that choice may have consequences.
I can’t stress strongly enough that I don’t like the idea of vaccine passports, I really don’t. But (I think I said this the other day, maybe on this same thread) if someone chooses not to get jabbed, even if it feels like the right choice for them it risks prolonging the pandemic (if enough people take that same choice).
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How does it prolong the pandemic?
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Doesn’t it? I’m no expert but thought it was largely agreed that the quickest and safest way to herd immunity was vaccination. Not that it’s as quick (or perhaps even as safe) as we’d like, but the higher percentage of people who are likely to be seriously ill, the better?
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*unlikely to be
Can an anti vaxxer explain to us of the opposite viewpoint, exactly why you are.
Serious question, I can't see a good reason, but there must be one as a lot of people are the same view as yourselves.
Are there several reasons, or one main one you all share.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
Can an anti vaxxer explain to us of the opposite viewpoint, exactly why you are.
Serious question, I can't see a good reason, but there must be one as a lot of people are the same view as yourselves.
Are there several reasons, or one main one you all share.
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Because you give us attention. Like when a child is crying about not leaving the play park and you stay there fussing over it instead of just walking away and the child realising what is in their best interest on their own instead of receiving the attention. Works with dogs as well. But dogs aren't cants so rarely needed.
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
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Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Well it is until they end up in hospital clogging up vital space and time and interfering with other sick people getting help(something you covid/vax deniers have gone on about for an age).
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They're not clogging up hospitals though.
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Of course they are. Anyone in hospital with Covid and unvaxxed is a cant, pure and simple.
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Because they don't agree with your view? Grow up.
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No, because their stupidity has put them in hospital and put unnecessary strain on the health service, this isn't complicated.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
Can an anti vaxxer explain to us of the opposite viewpoint, exactly why you are.
Serious question, I can't see a good reason, but there must be one as a lot of people are the same view as yourselves.
Are there several reasons, or one main one you all share.
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As someone who will be booking his booster this weekend, I’ll try to field a few:
1) Some people have always been anti-vaxxers, convinced that vaccines cause autism, allergies etc. This pandemic is simultaneously their day in the sun and their worst nightmare. Some also disagree on religious grounds.
2) For some people, vaccine = government. So if they don’t like the government, they won’t take the vaccine. An absurdly simplistic viewpoint if you ask me.
3) Some are not in the main risk group and may not know a single person who’s had Covid, or not seriously. To make things worse, they might have a healthy acquaintance who died suddenly a short while after a jab. Of course, it will often be unrelated, but it will play on their minds. These are the group with whom I sympathise the most.
That’s three reasons I can think of quickly.
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posted on 17/12/21
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
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Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Well it is until they end up in hospital clogging up vital space and time and interfering with other sick people getting help(something you covid/vax deniers have gone on about for an age).
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They're not clogging up hospitals though.
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Of course they are. Anyone in hospital with Covid and unvaxxed is a cant, pure and simple.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
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I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
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Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Getting annoyed at unvaccinated people is like getting annoyed at sky divers.
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Fair point, we know both are just massive cants
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Says the man who is 'inclusive' but wishes to shoot anyone that disagrees with him.
And people call me mad!
posted on 17/12/21
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
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Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Yes they can, but it is less likely.
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Less likely? So why are the majority of Covid hospitalisations currently double/treble vaxxed?
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They’re not.
And you know this.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Getting annoyed at unvaccinated people is like getting annoyed at sky divers.
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Fair point, we know both are just massive cants
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Says the man who is 'inclusive' but wishes to shoot anyone that disagrees with him.
And people call me mad!
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Eliminate the morons, the world is a better place.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Unfortunately though, in the context of vaccine passports - which is what’s being discussed above - that choice may have consequences.
I can’t stress strongly enough that I don’t like the idea of vaccine passports, I really don’t. But (I think I said this the other day, maybe on this same thread) if someone chooses not to get jabbed, even if it feels like the right choice for them it risks prolonging the pandemic (if enough people take that same choice).
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How does it prolong the pandemic?
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
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I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
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I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes they can, but it is less likely.
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Less likely? So why are the majority of Covid hospitalisations currently double/treble vaxxed?
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This could be for a few reasons. One could be that a very high percentage of the country is vaccinated. So even if you had an exact 50:50 split of vaccinated and unvaccinated in hospital, you’d already be tending towards the conclusion that vaccinations were helping. Then I’d also imagine that a lot of vaccinated people who end up in hospital are very old and/or vulnerable, where even the effect of a vaccine doesn’t help enough. Those groups are largely vaccinated. The government did predict back in spring that a winter wave would see more vaccinated people in hospital for precisely this reason.
I see a lot of people crowing about how vaccines haven’t worked etc but they totally overlook one thing that appears hard to avoid: if things are bad now, they would be a lot worse without the vaccines.
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70% of the poluation is vaccinated. A large portion that aren't will be kids, who don't suffer as bad. So no surprise that there are more hospitalisations of people double/triple jabbed
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But the majority are not in for Covid.
So was it worth shutting the world for a disease that is clearly not as bad as it's portrayed to be for the majority of us?
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Yes, because it is as bad if you die from it.
You are prepared to see a million ? two million ? people die, so that we can carry on out lives as before
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah they put videos on youtube, spreading dangerous manoeuvres, encouraging others. Cars should be compulsory for motorbikists so that I am less likely to dent my bumper by hitting a motorbikist cos they will be less of them.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes they can, but it is less likely.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Less likely? So why are the majority of Covid hospitalisations currently double/treble vaxxed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This could be for a few reasons. One could be that a very high percentage of the country is vaccinated. So even if you had an exact 50:50 split of vaccinated and unvaccinated in hospital, you’d already be tending towards the conclusion that vaccinations were helping. Then I’d also imagine that a lot of vaccinated people who end up in hospital are very old and/or vulnerable, where even the effect of a vaccine doesn’t help enough. Those groups are largely vaccinated. The government did predict back in spring that a winter wave would see more vaccinated people in hospital for precisely this reason.
I see a lot of people crowing about how vaccines haven’t worked etc but they totally overlook one thing that appears hard to avoid: if things are bad now, they would be a lot worse without the vaccines.
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70% of the poluation is vaccinated. A large portion that aren't will be kids, who don't suffer as bad. So no surprise that there are more hospitalisations of people double/triple jabbed
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But the majority are not in for Covid.
So was it worth shutting the world for a disease that is clearly not as bad as it's portrayed to be for the majority of us?
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So the stage is yours. What do you propose happens?
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah they put videos on youtube, spreading dangerous manoeuvres, encouraging others. Cars should be compulsory for motorbikists so that I am less likely to dent my bumper by hitting a motorbikist cos they will be less of them.
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Good point well made. Yeah but if bikermotors are all going around 4 wheel cars like real people how do you know which ones you can run over when you're driving home drunk from the pub?
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah they put videos on youtube, spreading dangerous manoeuvres, encouraging others. Cars should be compulsory for motorbikists so that I am less likely to dent my bumper by hitting a motorbikist cos they will be less of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point well made. Yeah but if bikermotors are all going around 4 wheel cars like real people how do you know which ones you can run over when you're driving home drunk from the pub?
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It's a good point. Cars on front usually come in pairs when I am driving home. They drive side by side for some reason on single carriageway roads. Identical cars as well. Very odd.
posted on 17/12/21
I find people wearing masks in their cars while they're on their own very silly but I guess they're not doing any harm!
Covidiots would describe the Tory government on repeat
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Well it is until they end up in hospital clogging up vital space and time and interfering with other sick people getting help(something you covid/vax deniers have gone on about for an age).
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They're not clogging up hospitals though.
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Of course they are. Anyone in hospital with Covid and unvaxxed is a cant, pure and simple.
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Because they don't agree with your view? Grow up.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Or motorbikists. They are likely to cause more accidents, and may dent your bumper a little bit. But they are going to come off faaarr worse if something goes wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I like this one.
The big difference being, those that CHOOSE not to have a vaccine often go around telling people about their CHOICE and how Covid is all LIES and how others shouldn't be getting it EITHER.
If you really want to risk getting seriously ill when it could be avoided, that's on you. Convincing others and sharing dangerous, potentially fatal, misinformation is the act of a total caant and should be condemned at every opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah motorbikists overtaking all the time on dangerous bends can cause accidents for drivers trying to avoid hitting them. They are spreading accidents with their behaviour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I mean, that's annoying sure. But people will do people things.
If those same motorbikers go around telling their loved ones that overtaking on corners is fun and that road safety is made up lies by Big Corner, they are massivecunts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah they put videos on youtube, spreading dangerous manoeuvres, encouraging others. Cars should be compulsory for motorbikists so that I am less likely to dent my bumper by hitting a motorbikist cos they will be less of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point well made. Yeah but if bikermotors are all going around 4 wheel cars like real people how do you know which ones you can run over when you're driving home drunk from the pub?
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It's a good point. Cars on front usually come in pairs when I am driving home. They drive side by side for some reason on single carriageway roads. Identical cars as well. Very odd.
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I completely disagree you cretin. That sounds like a normal Friday night.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 29 seconds ago
I find people wearing masks in their cars while they're on their own very silly but I guess they're not doing any harm!
Covidiots would describe the Tory government on repeat
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How the hell do they smell where they are going if they're wearing a mask?? Asking for a friend. My friend is a dog.
posted on 17/12/21
Your dog smells like ass.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes they can, but it is less likely.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Less likely? So why are the majority of Covid hospitalisations currently double/treble vaxxed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This could be for a few reasons. One could be that a very high percentage of the country is vaccinated. So even if you had an exact 50:50 split of vaccinated and unvaccinated in hospital, you’d already be tending towards the conclusion that vaccinations were helping. Then I’d also imagine that a lot of vaccinated people who end up in hospital are very old and/or vulnerable, where even the effect of a vaccine doesn’t help enough. Those groups are largely vaccinated. The government did predict back in spring that a winter wave would see more vaccinated people in hospital for precisely this reason.
I see a lot of people crowing about how vaccines haven’t worked etc but they totally overlook one thing that appears hard to avoid: if things are bad now, they would be a lot worse without the vaccines.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
70% of the poluation is vaccinated. A large portion that aren't will be kids, who don't suffer as bad. So no surprise that there are more hospitalisations of people double/triple jabbed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the majority are not in for Covid.
So was it worth shutting the world for a disease that is clearly not as bad as it's portrayed to be for the majority of us?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the stage is yours. What do you propose happens?
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Open up or regret it forever.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
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Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Unfortunately though, in the context of vaccine passports - which is what’s being discussed above - that choice may have consequences.
I can’t stress strongly enough that I don’t like the idea of vaccine passports, I really don’t. But (I think I said this the other day, maybe on this same thread) if someone chooses not to get jabbed, even if it feels like the right choice for them it risks prolonging the pandemic (if enough people take that same choice).
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How does it prolong the pandemic?
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Doesn’t it? I’m no expert but thought it was largely agreed that the quickest and safest way to herd immunity was vaccination. Not that it’s as quick (or perhaps even as safe) as we’d like, but the higher percentage of people who are likely to be seriously ill, the better?
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Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
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Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Unfortunately though, in the context of vaccine passports - which is what’s being discussed above - that choice may have consequences.
I can’t stress strongly enough that I don’t like the idea of vaccine passports, I really don’t. But (I think I said this the other day, maybe on this same thread) if someone chooses not to get jabbed, even if it feels like the right choice for them it risks prolonging the pandemic (if enough people take that same choice).
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How does it prolong the pandemic?
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Doesn’t it? I’m no expert but thought it was largely agreed that the quickest and safest way to herd immunity was vaccination. Not that it’s as quick (or perhaps even as safe) as we’d like, but the higher percentage of people who are likely to be seriously ill, the better?
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*unlikely to be
posted on 17/12/21
Can an anti vaxxer explain to us of the opposite viewpoint, exactly why you are.
Serious question, I can't see a good reason, but there must be one as a lot of people are the same view as yourselves.
Are there several reasons, or one main one you all share.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
Can an anti vaxxer explain to us of the opposite viewpoint, exactly why you are.
Serious question, I can't see a good reason, but there must be one as a lot of people are the same view as yourselves.
Are there several reasons, or one main one you all share.
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Because you give us attention. Like when a child is crying about not leaving the play park and you stay there fussing over it instead of just walking away and the child realising what is in their best interest on their own instead of receiving the attention. Works with dogs as well. But dogs aren't cants so rarely needed.
posted on 17/12/21
I like dogs
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posted 12 minutes ago
Pet hate? People who cant accept the CHOICE to have or not have the vaccine...any vaccine btw.
As far as i was aware we all have A CHOICE to put into our own bodies what we want.
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Of course you have that choice. But you don't have the right to pass on a virus because of your choice.
Which is why vaccine passports are a good thing.
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Even though the vaxxed can still pass it on? You surprise me tbh.
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Can. Like how people who aren’t drunk can still crash cars, people who don’t smoke can develop lung cancer etc. But if vaccinated people are less likely to get Covid, then they’re by extension less likely to pass it on. And they’re certainly less likely to end up in ICU if they do get it. So though I don’t like the idea of passports for a few reasons, there is a cold logic about spreading these probabilities across a population.
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Vaxxed people aren't less likely to get Covid. This information is available to all.
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But they are far less likely to die
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But that's their risk. Their choice.
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Well it is until they end up in hospital clogging up vital space and time and interfering with other sick people getting help(something you covid/vax deniers have gone on about for an age).
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They're not clogging up hospitals though.
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Of course they are. Anyone in hospital with Covid and unvaxxed is a cant, pure and simple.
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Because they don't agree with your view? Grow up.
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No, because their stupidity has put them in hospital and put unnecessary strain on the health service, this isn't complicated.
posted on 17/12/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
Can an anti vaxxer explain to us of the opposite viewpoint, exactly why you are.
Serious question, I can't see a good reason, but there must be one as a lot of people are the same view as yourselves.
Are there several reasons, or one main one you all share.
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As someone who will be booking his booster this weekend, I’ll try to field a few:
1) Some people have always been anti-vaxxers, convinced that vaccines cause autism, allergies etc. This pandemic is simultaneously their day in the sun and their worst nightmare. Some also disagree on religious grounds.
2) For some people, vaccine = government. So if they don’t like the government, they won’t take the vaccine. An absurdly simplistic viewpoint if you ask me.
3) Some are not in the main risk group and may not know a single person who’s had Covid, or not seriously. To make things worse, they might have a healthy acquaintance who died suddenly a short while after a jab. Of course, it will often be unrelated, but it will play on their minds. These are the group with whom I sympathise the most.
That’s three reasons I can think of quickly.
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