comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
Could it not be?
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Only if you are a beast.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
Could it not be?
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Only if you are a beast.
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Blimey. Bet your missus loves it when it comes to signing a consent form before she gets her 3 mins of missionary for her birthday.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
Could it not be?
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Only if you are a beast.
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Blimey. Bet your missus loves it when it comes to signing a consent form before she gets her 3 mins of missionary for her birthday.
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She's not a fan of rape.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Apology denied you lying beast
The real question is why Don wants to defend an accused rapist and cast doubt on an apparent rape victim for hours every day.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
The real question is why Don wants to defend an accused rapist and cast doubt on an apparent rape victim for hours every day.
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He is either a wrong un or its they only way he can get attention in his sad little life. Pathetic either way.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 53 minutes ago
The real question is why Don wants to defend an accused rapist and cast doubt on an apparent rape victim for hours every day.
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Im simply pointing out he might be innocent.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Apology denied you lying caaanting beastiality loving filth
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Corrected
Elvis,
You need to work on your abuse towards Don.
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 5 minutes ago
Elvis,
You need to work on your abuse towards Don.
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Thought he’d been quite constrained given how long rdd has been banging this drum
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 5 minutes ago
Elvis,
You need to work on your abuse towards Don.
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Thought he’d been quite constrained given how long rdd has been banging this drum
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He appears to possess the patience of a saint!
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
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Consent can be non verbal. This was what i said. You omit this from your post because you k ow it nakes sense and screws your argument.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
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Consent can be non verbal. This was what i said. You omit this from your post because you k ow it nakes sense and screws your argument.
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Don, you said that you interpretation of the audio was the at the end she "complies".
No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this.
My issue is that you listened to that audio and the last thing we hear is Mason threaten her. And your interpretation was that at the end she "complies" to have s£x. So, unless you have this magical ability to see what is happening in audio files, there is absolutely no indication whatsoever that she agreed to have s£x with him. Noe. Which makes your interpretation of the audio very creepy and extremely disturbing.
I think if this was too go to trial it would probably be record with how quick a verdict is returned, just my tuppence worth. However I do respect don's defence of due process, that is important, and it should be rigorously defended so people saying he is just doing it to go against the grain is just another case on this site of people trying to scream down someone else when their view does not align with the majority.
Funnily enough, he is probably the only one that would be cleared for jury duty on this entire thread.
'No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this'
Elvis, you said in this very thread that consent could only be taken non verbally if you are a beast.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
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Consent can be non verbal. This was what i said. You omit this from your post because you k ow it nakes sense and screws your argument.
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Don, you said that you interpretation of the audio was the at the end she "complies".
No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this.
My issue is that you listened to that audio and the last thing we hear is Mason threaten her. And your interpretation was that at the end she "complies" to have s£x. So, unless you have this magical ability to see what is happening in audio files, there is absolutely no indication whatsoever that she agreed to have s£x with him. Noe. Which makes your interpretation of the audio very creepy and extremely disturbing.
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We dont even know if they had 5ex, let alone if it was consensual or not.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
'No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this'
Elvis, you said in this very thread that consent could only be taken non verbally if you are a beast.
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No, I was saying that only a beast could interpret that audio as Harriet giving consent.
If you were asking me if consent can be given non verbally, then I was answering the wrong question, which is my bad.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
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posted 58 minutes ago
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posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
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posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
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Consent can be non verbal. This was what i said. You omit this from your post because you k ow it nakes sense and screws your argument.
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Don, you said that you interpretation of the audio was the at the end she "complies".
No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this.
My issue is that you listened to that audio and the last thing we hear is Mason threaten her. And your interpretation was that at the end she "complies" to have s£x. So, unless you have this magical ability to see what is happening in audio files, there is absolutely no indication whatsoever that she agreed to have s£x with him. Noe. Which makes your interpretation of the audio very creepy and extremely disturbing.
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We dont even know if they had 5ex, let alone if it was consensual or not.
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No we don't. But this is you just moving the goalposts to try and deflect from what you have said.
Please explain to us all exactly what from the audio led you to interpret it as Harriet giving consent at the end. Either verbally or non verbally. Because all I can hear is a scared young girl being coerced/forced into doing something that she doesn't want to do.
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 37 minutes ago
I think if this was too go to trial it would probably be record with how quick a verdict is returned, just my tuppence worth. However I do respect don's defence of due process, that is important, and it should be rigorously defended so people saying he is just doing it to go against the grain is just another case on this site of people trying to scream down someone else when their view does not align with the majority.
Funnily enough, he is probably the only one that would be cleared for jury duty on this entire thread.
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You think that a man who listened to that audio and interpreted it as a young girl giving consent would get to sit on a jury? Wow.
You are deliberately misrepresenting what he has said in that instance and you're better than that Elvis.
He clearly has an open mind on the outcome of the case and I think others have either already made up their mind or are leaning in a direction.
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posted on 21/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
posted on 21/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
Could it not be?
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Only if you are a beast.
posted on 21/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
posted on 21/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
Could it not be?
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Only if you are a beast.
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Blimey. Bet your missus loves it when it comes to signing a consent form before she gets her 3 mins of missionary for her birthday.
posted on 21/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
Could it not be?
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Only if you are a beast.
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Blimey. Bet your missus loves it when it comes to signing a consent form before she gets her 3 mins of missionary for her birthday.
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She's not a fan of rape.
posted on 21/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
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posted 16 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
posted on 21/4/22
Apology denied you lying beast
posted on 21/4/22
The real question is why Don wants to defend an accused rapist and cast doubt on an apparent rape victim for hours every day.
posted on 21/4/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
The real question is why Don wants to defend an accused rapist and cast doubt on an apparent rape victim for hours every day.
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He is either a wrong un or its they only way he can get attention in his sad little life. Pathetic either way.
posted on 21/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
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posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
posted on 21/4/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 53 minutes ago
The real question is why Don wants to defend an accused rapist and cast doubt on an apparent rape victim for hours every day.
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Im simply pointing out he might be innocent.
posted on 21/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Apology denied you lying caaanting beastiality loving filth
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Corrected
posted on 22/4/22
Elvis,
You need to work on your abuse towards Don.
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 5 minutes ago
Elvis,
You need to work on your abuse towards Don.
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Thought he’d been quite constrained given how long rdd has been banging this drum
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 5 minutes ago
Elvis,
You need to work on your abuse towards Don.
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Thought he’d been quite constrained given how long rdd has been banging this drum
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He appears to possess the patience of a saint!
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
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Consent can be non verbal. This was what i said. You omit this from your post because you k ow it nakes sense and screws your argument.
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
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posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
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Consent can be non verbal. This was what i said. You omit this from your post because you k ow it nakes sense and screws your argument.
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Don, you said that you interpretation of the audio was the at the end she "complies".
No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this.
My issue is that you listened to that audio and the last thing we hear is Mason threaten her. And your interpretation was that at the end she "complies" to have s£x. So, unless you have this magical ability to see what is happening in audio files, there is absolutely no indication whatsoever that she agreed to have s£x with him. Noe. Which makes your interpretation of the audio very creepy and extremely disturbing.
posted on 22/4/22
I think if this was too go to trial it would probably be record with how quick a verdict is returned, just my tuppence worth. However I do respect don's defence of due process, that is important, and it should be rigorously defended so people saying he is just doing it to go against the grain is just another case on this site of people trying to scream down someone else when their view does not align with the majority.
Funnily enough, he is probably the only one that would be cleared for jury duty on this entire thread.
posted on 22/4/22
'No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this'
Elvis, you said in this very thread that consent could only be taken non verbally if you are a beast.
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
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Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
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Consent can be non verbal. This was what i said. You omit this from your post because you k ow it nakes sense and screws your argument.
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Don, you said that you interpretation of the audio was the at the end she "complies".
No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this.
My issue is that you listened to that audio and the last thing we hear is Mason threaten her. And your interpretation was that at the end she "complies" to have s£x. So, unless you have this magical ability to see what is happening in audio files, there is absolutely no indication whatsoever that she agreed to have s£x with him. Noe. Which makes your interpretation of the audio very creepy and extremely disturbing.
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We dont even know if they had 5ex, let alone if it was consensual or not.
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
'No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this'
Elvis, you said in this very thread that consent could only be taken non verbally if you are a beast.
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No, I was saying that only a beast could interpret that audio as Harriet giving consent.
If you were asking me if consent can be given non verbally, then I was answering the wrong question, which is my bad.
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
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posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fingers crossed we know soon so we can put Elvis and Sally out of their misery.
They refuse to even consider he isnt the monster they have made him out to be.
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Another lie. I have said repeatedly that there is a chance that it was a s£x game. I think that chance is very small due to several reasons, which we have discussed at length. No point going over them all again.
I also believe that, irrespective of whether he is charged or found guilty, he has likely played his last game for United. The audio is just too damaging. If Harriet comes out and says it was a s£x game then it is still possible, but otherwise I don't see it happening. And the way things have progressed, it looks more likely she has given a statement against him.
I am quite happy where I stand on the matter, which is aligned with the vast majority of posters on the board. You on the other hand are being viewed as a bit of a wrong-un, looking for excuses and what -ifs everywhere. The investigation will run its course and we will have our answer eventually. But at this time, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the audio wasn't what it sounds like. And the video of her injuries only serves to support the fact that she has been in an abusive relationship. We shall see.
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It doesn't make me a wrong un for considering the fact he might be innocent of what he has been accused of.
If he is charged and found guilty then yeah, punish him to he full extent of the law, but until then, lets cut all the judgement.
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This from the man that interpreted the audio as Harriet giving consent at the end. Yeh, lets hold off judgement.
And that's what also makes you a wrong un. Not for considering the fact that he might somehow be innocent, which I have said all along could be the case. The fact you heard that audio and interpreted it as a girl giving consent to have s£x. Disturbing. As many other posters have pointed out.
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I said the consent could be non verbal you moron.
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What kind of 6th sense do you possess that enables you to see audio files and thus allow you to interpret the audio in such a way?
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Thats why i said could. Jesus.
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No o you didn't.. We've already done this.
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Yes i did. Go look. Il await the apology.
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Here is what you said:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
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Where is thr bit about non verbal consent you moron?
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It's not there. You added that but later didn't you? Either way, tell me more about this 6th sense that allowed you to see the non verbal consent through an audio file.
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Consent can be non verbal. This was what i said. You omit this from your post because you k ow it nakes sense and screws your argument.
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Don, you said that you interpretation of the audio was the at the end she "complies".
No one has said that consent can't be non-verbal. No idea why you keep going on about this.
My issue is that you listened to that audio and the last thing we hear is Mason threaten her. And your interpretation was that at the end she "complies" to have s£x. So, unless you have this magical ability to see what is happening in audio files, there is absolutely no indication whatsoever that she agreed to have s£x with him. Noe. Which makes your interpretation of the audio very creepy and extremely disturbing.
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We dont even know if they had 5ex, let alone if it was consensual or not.
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No we don't. But this is you just moving the goalposts to try and deflect from what you have said.
Please explain to us all exactly what from the audio led you to interpret it as Harriet giving consent at the end. Either verbally or non verbally. Because all I can hear is a scared young girl being coerced/forced into doing something that she doesn't want to do.
posted on 22/4/22
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 37 minutes ago
I think if this was too go to trial it would probably be record with how quick a verdict is returned, just my tuppence worth. However I do respect don's defence of due process, that is important, and it should be rigorously defended so people saying he is just doing it to go against the grain is just another case on this site of people trying to scream down someone else when their view does not align with the majority.
Funnily enough, he is probably the only one that would be cleared for jury duty on this entire thread.
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You think that a man who listened to that audio and interpreted it as a young girl giving consent would get to sit on a jury? Wow.
posted on 22/4/22
You are deliberately misrepresenting what he has said in that instance and you're better than that Elvis.
He clearly has an open mind on the outcome of the case and I think others have either already made up their mind or are leaning in a direction.
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