comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Greg (U1192)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Elvis what do you do for work?
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Argues with RDD
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 39 minutes ago
Or I’m right, and you lot are wrongly jumping to conclusions.
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We are merely giving an opinion based on what we know. Same as you.

Just out of curiosity, after reading some of this thread, I just googled voice analysis convictions. After a brief look, it would appear it’s not reliable enough for a conviction.

comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 10 minutes ago
Just out of curiosity, after reading some of this thread, I just googled voice analysis convictions. After a brief look, it would appear it’s not reliable enough for a conviction.
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Not on its own. But if the police have a statement from Hariet and can confirm Greenwood was with her at the time of the recording through the methods previously mentioned, it holds more weight. Mason might even have confirmed the recording is him.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 52 minutes ago
Don, don't you understand? Unless proven innocent, beyond doubt, the majority of us think he's a nasty piece of work who we don't want to be cheering on every Saturday.
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But we wont ever know the full facts if it isnt pursued.

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 10 minutes ago
Just out of curiosity, after reading some of this thread, I just googled voice analysis convictions. After a brief look, it would appear it’s not reliable enough for a conviction.
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Not on its own. But if the police have a statement from Hariet and can confirm Greenwood was with her at the time of the recording through the methods previously mentioned, it holds more weight. Mason might even have confirmed the recording is him.
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I’ve no doubt there’s many moving parts to what’s going on with the investigation. I was just curious after reading some of the thread.

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 52 minutes ago
Don, don't you understand? Unless proven innocent, beyond doubt, the majority of us think he's a nasty piece of work who we don't want to be cheering on every Saturday.
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But we wont ever know the full facts if it isnt pursued.
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We don't care if we know the full facts, we know he's nasty, that's enough. Not legally, but for us.

Or he is just an utterwhich should have been easier for you to diagnose Dr Cloggy.

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I will leave the simple things to you

I'm not being oppositional to anything 😂. I've previously said I think the audio is very clear cut.

I also however think they will get back together. Dont see why anyone is taking issue with such a statement. Young love is foolish.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 37 seconds ago
I'm not being oppositional to anything 😂. I've previously said I think the audio is very clear cut.

I also however think they will get back together. Dont see why anyone is taking issue with such a statement. Young love is foolish.
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Do you condone violence against women?

And what is the best message society can send out to offenders?

I don't see how either question is relevant to what I've said.

Infact it's not remotely relevant.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't see how either question is relevant to what I've said.

Infact it's not remotely relevant.


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The girl suffered attempted rape, assault & battery and you in your warped world are claiming they will get back together?!

So "young love is foolish love" means a young girl endures what she endured and forgives?

It’s hardly his warped world. Millions of people stay with abusive partners.

I dont know what fantasy realm you come from pal, but in the real world toxic couples get back together all the time..

Stick your head out the window. Get some fresh air. Learn about the world.

I'm not saying she should do anything, I'm stating what I believe will happen.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 6 minutes ago
I'm not being oppositional to anything 😂. I've previously said I think the audio is very clear cut.

I also however think they will get back together. Dont see why anyone is taking issue with such a statement. Young love is foolish.
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Unfortunately you are correct. Lots of victims in abusive relationships return to the relationship. It usually takes several attempts for the victim to eventually leave the relationship, if ever. In this case though, the whole thing is being played out in the media. It's very public. All of her friends and family know the crack. She is getting specialist support through the police. I'd be surprised if she gets back with him. Absolutely everyone around her will be telling her not to.

comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 34 seconds ago
It’s hardly his warped world. Millions of people stay with abusive partners.
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Doesn't make it OK though

comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't see how either question is relevant to what I've said.

Infact it's not remotely relevant.


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The girl suffered attempted rape, assault & battery and you in your warped world are claiming they will get back together?!

So "young love is foolish love" means a young girl endures what she endured and forgives?
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It does happen a lot.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 47 seconds ago
I dont know what fantasy realm you come from pal, but in the real world toxic couples get back together all the time..

Stick your head out the window. Get some fresh air. Learn about the world.

I'm not saying she should do anything, I'm stating what I believe will happen.
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I know more than enough about the real world. Pal.

He never said it makes it okay.

comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 47 seconds ago
I dont know what fantasy realm you come from pal, but in the real world toxic couples get back together all the time..

Stick your head out the window. Get some fresh air. Learn about the world.

I'm not saying she should do anything, I'm stating what I believe will happen.
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I know more than enough about the real world. Pal.
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Clearly you don't otherwise you wouldn't of reacted so bizarrely to fairly basic statement.

Let's hope she is not part of the effed up millions who are battered but go back to their abusive partner!

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 6 minutes ago
I'm not being oppositional to anything 😂. I've previously said I think the audio is very clear cut.

I also however think they will get back together. Dont see why anyone is taking issue with such a statement. Young love is foolish.
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Unfortunately you are correct. Lots of victims in abusive relationships return to the relationship. It usually takes several attempts for the victim to eventually leave the relationship, if ever. In this case though, the whole thing is being played out in the media. It's very public. All of her friends and family know the crack. She is getting specialist support through the police. I'd be surprised if she gets back with him. Absolutely everyone around her will be telling her not to.
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At that age, it's hard to get through to people re love. Romeo and Juliet. Us against the world, they want us too be together etc etc .

Well see. But I actually do think they will.

Lifestyles also gonna be a factor, as much as people really don't want too acknowledge it, it will be a big facitr.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
Don, don't you understand? Unless proven innocent, beyond doubt, the majority of us think he's a nasty piece of work who we don't want to be cheering on every Saturday.
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mmmm

I also would like to state I think his career is done in England regardless.

I imagine he will be playing in Turkey come next season.

comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 37 seconds ago
I'm not being oppositional to anything 😂. I've previously said I think the audio is very clear cut.

I also however think they will get back together. Dont see why anyone is taking issue with such a statement. Young love is foolish.
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Do you condone violence against women?

And what is the best message society can send out to offenders?
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Do you think someones life should be ruined over something they said?

Do you think all offenders should be treated the same?