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Mason Greenwood

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posted on 20/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
The problem he will have, is that idiots will insist he settled in order to escape justice, and accuse him of it anyway.
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Unless he is an incredible actor, there is nothing idiotic about that really. Most normal people thinking would not want him at their club after hearing that audio.
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Can ypu even prove its him?
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I don't have to. That is the job of the police and the CPS.
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It is. But until they do, whats the point in getting upset / outraged?

posted on 20/4/22

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
The classic tale of a malleable man who has had his world view moulded by the algorithm.

Seems to be more and more of them who really miss the stone age.
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You should write a book brother. George RR ain't finishing that shiiiiit . Go ahead.
f

posted on 20/4/22

Rogue f

posted on 20/4/22

Wasn’t this always the case that he wasn’t removed?

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Diafol Coch 77
posted 13 seconds ago
Don is being the ultimate 'what if' man here but we cannot really prove it's him though from the video alone.

However, everything around it suggests it is him not least the lack of denial. If that really wasn't him then we'd know by now. His lawyers would have been all over it. They could do it via time stamps on the phone and his whereabouts probably.
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The voice alone is clearly identifiable with Greenwood as is Harriet's.

She was the one who made the recording

The reason the case has gone quiet is probably because Greenwood has made a financial settlement and has retracted / changed her statement as a result. We just don't know.

Or maybe the evidence is not damning enough to press charges. If that is the case you can see why rape allegations have a poor success rate, the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

The recording alone, to a reasonable man, proves Greenwood was performing an act on Harriet, and she was protesting in a distressed way as a result. Prosecution would need to prove it was in contravention of the Sexual Offences Act. No doubt the defence cited "foreplay", it was "play acting".

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
The problem he will have, is that idiots will insist he settled in order to escape justice, and accuse him of it anyway.
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Unless he is an incredible actor, there is nothing idiotic about that really. Most normal people thinking would not want him at their club after hearing that audio.
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Can ypu even prove its him?
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I don't have to. That is the job of the police and the CPS.
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It is. But until they do, whats the point in getting upset / outraged?
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What do you think one of the very first things the police did? I'd imagine that they satisfied themselves that it was indeed Greenwood in the recording. In order to do that they will obviously questioned Harriet. Then they will have looked at time date/time stamps of the recordings and Greenwood's mobile phone movements. Then there will possibly be CCTV footage corroborate his movements and I'd imagine a security tracker in his vehicle. They will also obviously ask Greenwood himself if it is him in the recording. I doubt they will have had much trouble establishing his movements and that he was indeed with Harriet at the time of the recording. Then there is also the opinion on language experts.

The fact that the investigation is still ongoing would suggest to me that they are very much sure that it was him in the recording. As does the fact that he was further arrested.

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
The classic tale of a malleable man who has had his world view moulded by the algorithm.

Seems to be more and more of them who really miss the stone age.
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You should write a book brother. George RR ain't finishing that shiiiiit . Go ahead.
f
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A feast for the greenest of woods

posted on 20/4/22

i see that rdd is doing his rapey rumpole act again

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 34 seconds ago
Rogue f
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Funnily enough this is also Don's argument for Greenwood.

posted on 20/4/22

RDD’s even questioning it’s him now?

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 3 seconds ago
RDD’s even questioning it’s him now?
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He thinks it’s Mason Redwood

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 4 seconds ago

comment by Diafol Coch 77
posted 13 seconds ago


The reason the case has gone quiet is probably because Greenwood has made a financial settlement and has retracted / changed her statement as a result. We just don't know.
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I don't think that is the probability. It could be the case, but these kinds of cases take a long time. The Everton player has just been bailed again and it is a year since he was first arrested. This could easily drag on for another 12-18 months before it even makes it to court.

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 29 seconds ago
i see that rdd is doing his rapey rumpole act again
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Rumpole on the Bailey's more like!

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Robbb Lasso 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 3 seconds ago
RDD’s even questioning it’s him now?
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He thinks it’s Mason Redwood
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could be any mason really couldn't it?

mason verger
mason jar
mason dixon line

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
i see that rdd is doing his rapey rumpole act again
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Don't call him rapey! He will get you banned. He's got a lot of sway with the admin around here.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Robbb Lasso 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 3 seconds ago
RDD’s even questioning it’s him now?
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He thinks it’s Mason Redwood
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Quite an appropriate change of name.

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbb Lasso 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 3 seconds ago
RDD’s even questioning it’s him now?
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He thinks it’s Mason Redwood
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could be any mason really couldn't it?

mason verger
mason jar
mason dixon line
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Hopefully after the police are finished he’s not free Mason

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Lasso 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 3 seconds ago
RDD’s even questioning it’s him now?
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He thinks it’s Mason Redwood
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Quite an appropriate change of name.
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😅

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77
posted 13 seconds ago
Don is being the ultimate 'what if' man here but we cannot really prove it's him though from the video alone.

However, everything around it suggests it is him not least the lack of denial. If that really wasn't him then we'd know by now. His lawyers would have been all over it. They could do it via time stamps on the phone and his whereabouts probably.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The voice alone is clearly identifiable with Greenwood as is Harriet's.

She was the one who made the recording

The reason the case has gone quiet is probably because Greenwood has made a financial settlement and has retracted / changed her statement as a result. We just don't know.

Or maybe the evidence is not damning enough to press charges. If that is the case you can see why rape allegations have a poor success rate, the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

The recording alone, to a reasonable man, proves Greenwood was performing an act on Harriet, and she was protesting in a distressed way as a result. Prosecution would need to prove it was in contravention of the Sexual Offences Act. No doubt the defence cited "foreplay", it was "play acting".
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You are right on 1 thing.

We just dont know

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
The problem he will have, is that idiots will insist he settled in order to escape justice, and accuse him of it anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless he is an incredible actor, there is nothing idiotic about that really. Most normal people thinking would not want him at their club after hearing that audio.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Can ypu even prove its him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't have to. That is the job of the police and the CPS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It is. But until they do, whats the point in getting upset / outraged?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What do you think one of the very first things the police did? I'd imagine that they satisfied themselves that it was indeed Greenwood in the recording. In order to do that they will obviously questioned Harriet. Then they will have looked at time date/time stamps of the recordings and Greenwood's mobile phone movements. Then there will possibly be CCTV footage corroborate his movements and I'd imagine a security tracker in his vehicle. They will also obviously ask Greenwood himself if it is him in the recording. I doubt they will have had much trouble establishing his movements and that he was indeed with Harriet at the time of the recording. Then there is also the opinion on language experts.

The fact that the investigation is still ongoing would suggest to me that they are very much sure that it was him in the recording. As does the fact that he was further arrested.
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Language experts 😄

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 4 seconds ago

comment by Diafol Coch 77
posted 13 seconds ago


The reason the case has gone quiet is probably because Greenwood has made a financial settlement and has retracted / changed her statement as a result. We just don't know.
------------------------------

I don't think that is the probability. It could be the case, but these kinds of cases take a long time. The Everton player has just been bailed again and it is a year since he was first arrested. This could easily drag on for another 12-18 months before it even makes it to court.
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I also don't believe (given he was arrested on suspicion of rape and assault, as well as a 2nd accusation of threat to kill) he is in a position to settle anyway.

He's currently on bail, and it will be up to the police to determine if there's enough evidence to charge him,(with the chance of a conviction) and refer to the CPS.

He therefore could be charged with all four offences, or just one, depending on the police investigation. Or if new evidence comes to light the charges could be added to, or struck off.

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 4 seconds ago

comment by Diafol Coch 77
posted 13 seconds ago


The reason the case has gone quiet is probably because Greenwood has made a financial settlement and has retracted / changed her statement as a result. We just don't know.
------------------------------

I don't think that is the probability. It could be the case, but these kinds of cases take a long time. The Everton player has just been bailed again and it is a year since he was first arrested. This could easily drag on for another 12-18 months before it even makes it to court.
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And you think the club will continue paying him but not using him for that long g?

posted on 20/4/22

Greenwood is far too raw for us to be turning the heat up like this. You have no idea what damage it can do.

If we continue it will likely cause excessive amounts of creosote to build up in the chimney at a dramatically faster rate. Creosote buildup is the leading cause of chimney fires which are extremely dangerous and burn down thousands of homes every year.

posted on 20/4/22

comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
So the tape recordings, bruises, blood not enough? Or has he sweetened things with a settlement?


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Probably got back together

posted on 20/4/22

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think ... (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Salam Reds (Pro ETH) (U22803)
posted 4 seconds ago

comment by Diafol Coch 77
posted 13 seconds ago


The reason the case has gone quiet is probably because Greenwood has made a financial settlement and has retracted / changed her statement as a result. We just don't know.
------------------------------

I don't think that is the probability. It could be the case, but these kinds of cases take a long time. The Everton player has just been bailed again and it is a year since he was first arrested. This could easily drag on for another 12-18 months before it even makes it to court.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


I also don't believe (given he was arrested on suspicion of rape and assault, as well as a 2nd accusation of threat to kill) he is in a position to settle anyway.

He's currently on bail, and it will be up to the police to determine if there's enough evidence to charge him,(with the chance of a conviction) and refer to the CPS.

He therefore could be charged with all four offences, or just one, depending on the police investigation. Or if new evidence comes to light the charges could be added to, or struck off.
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Very plausible explanations Elvis & Stuart Pearce. Who knows what is happening behind the scenes between Greenwood's lawyers and Harriet's family.

If it drags on 12 - 18 months it's bad news for Utd as he's on the club's payroll, taking up valuable squad space in a critical period where the club is again forced to reset and find its way out of the football wilderness!

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