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comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 35 seconds ago
Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
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comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah Germany having 5th place get top 4 means that they now have Dortmund in the CL who finished 5th. This is likely to improve how the Germans do in Europe in terms of 5th place getting top 4. Not disimprove.
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They will have a greater chance of drawing each other though which based on pure maths alone will diminish their chances.
Additionally Germany, Italy and Spain have an “unfancied” side in the CL next year - Stuttgart, Bologna, Girona
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Villa
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Previous European cup winning Aston Villa?
Managed by multiple European silverware winner Sinai Emery.
They comfortably navigate this bloated group stage - I will offer odds of 3/1 of them getting knocked out in the group stage if you want it?
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No. The Villa that got pumped out of the 3rd rate European competition last season. Not the Villa of the 80s or Unai Emery's Sevilla.
They may well make the play offs as will almost everyone, but will likely lose to a semi decent team in the play offs like Dortmund. Which would be ironic.
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
It is more interesting that the PL only has 4 places but STILL has a crap unfancied team. Where as in Germany and Italy they had to get an additional space to add their unfancied teams. Like last year's finalist Dortmund.
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Well it will come down to Real Madrid and City again.
But I obliterated your point with the last argument - Africa had more sides than South America and Argentina won if <laughH
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Dearie me.
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 35 seconds ago
Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
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Why is that relevant when only money counts?
Neither will do it, but Africa is best placed to reach a final.
This will be shown as they continue to outperform America in world cups.
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah Germany having 5th place get top 4 means that they now have Dortmund in the CL who finished 5th. This is likely to improve how the Germans do in Europe in terms of 5th place getting top 4. Not disimprove.
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They will have a greater chance of drawing each other though which based on pure maths alone will diminish their chances.
Additionally Germany, Italy and Spain have an “unfancied” side in the CL next year - Stuttgart, Bologna, Girona
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Villa
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Previous European cup winning Aston Villa?
Managed by multiple European silverware winner Sinai Emery.
They comfortably navigate this bloated group stage - I will offer odds of 3/1 of them getting knocked out in the group stage if you want it?
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No. The Villa that got pumped out of the 3rd rate European competition last season. Not the Villa of the 80s or Unai Emery's Sevilla.
They may well make the play offs as will almost everyone, but will likely lose to a semi decent team in the play offs like Dortmund. Which would be ironic.
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I don’t disagree with that, but if we get all our sides through the group stage this time then that will be a big boost considering we lost United and Newcastle from Europe altogether at the group stage this time.
Pedigree is a thing and Villa are a bigger and more euro experienced side than the likes of Girona, Bologna and less so Stuttgart.
Bologna and Stuttgart will likely get picked to pieces this summer also whereas Villa probably only have to sell Douglas Luis, who is replaceable
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah Germany having 5th place get top 4 means that they now have Dortmund in the CL who finished 5th. This is likely to improve how the Germans do in Europe in terms of 5th place getting top 4. Not disimprove.
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They will have a greater chance of drawing each other though which based on pure maths alone will diminish their chances.
Additionally Germany, Italy and Spain have an “unfancied” side in the CL next year - Stuttgart, Bologna, Girona
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Villa
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Previous European cup winning Aston Villa?
Managed by multiple European silverware winner Sinai Emery.
They comfortably navigate this bloated group stage - I will offer odds of 3/1 of them getting knocked out in the group stage if you want it?
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No. The Villa that got pumped out of the 3rd rate European competition last season. Not the Villa of the 80s or Unai Emery's Sevilla.
They may well make the play offs as will almost everyone, but will likely lose to a semi decent team in the play offs like Dortmund. Which would be ironic.
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I don’t disagree with that, but if we get all our sides through the group stage this time then that will be a big boost considering we lost United and Newcastle from Europe altogether at the group stage this time.
Pedigree is a thing and Villa are a bigger and more euro experienced side than the likes of Girona, Bologna and less so Stuttgart.
Bologna and Stuttgart will likely get picked to pieces this summer also whereas Villa probably only have to sell Douglas Luis, who is replaceable
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You seem to always talk about things that will and would happen rather than what has happened. Pre last season's tournaments you'd be boasting about Newcasle and Man Utd going far into the competitions. Villa easily winning the ECL and Liverpool winning the EL. Why not look at what actually happened? Liverpool pumped out by the very unfancied kind of Italian team you talk about?
Villa were crap and were pumped out of the conference league. I don't see why that suddenly now makes them a great team in the near future just because it hasn't happened yet and your viewpoints are based on making stuff up.
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is more interesting that the PL only has 4 places but STILL has a crap unfancied team. Where as in Germany and Italy they had to get an additional space to add their unfancied teams. Like last year's finalist Dortmund.
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3 of the 4 English sides have won big ears
2 from 5 for Germany
3 from 5 for Italy
2 from 4 for Spain
In terms of teams making the final of big ears - only England and the Prem has a full house
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
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Ah yeah was going to add, make stuff up or make up excuses. PL sides got unlucky by drawing teams that beat them, who are actually crap, but they're not for this one particular argument. But are in the future. And PL teams would beat them if they didn't not.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Well it will come down to Real Madrid and City again.
But I obliterated your point with the last argument - Africa had more sides than South America and Argentina won if <laughH
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Dearie me.
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He’s got me lads, warrra comeback
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
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Ur not very brite r u?
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 35 seconds ago
Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
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Why is that relevant when only money counts?
Neither will do it, but Africa is best placed to reach a final.
This will be shown as they continue to outperform America in world cups.
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I think we will see America go for it in the next 20 years and win it in the next 30 whilst Africa at best makes one more semi final and at a push, 2 quarter finals
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah Germany having 5th place get top 4 means that they now have Dortmund in the CL who finished 5th. This is likely to improve how the Germans do in Europe in terms of 5th place getting top 4. Not disimprove.
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They will have a greater chance of drawing each other though which based on pure maths alone will diminish their chances.
Additionally Germany, Italy and Spain have an “unfancied” side in the CL next year - Stuttgart, Bologna, Girona
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Villa
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Previous European cup winning Aston Villa?
Managed by multiple European silverware winner Sinai Emery.
They comfortably navigate this bloated group stage - I will offer odds of 3/1 of them getting knocked out in the group stage if you want it?
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No. The Villa that got pumped out of the 3rd rate European competition last season. Not the Villa of the 80s or Unai Emery's Sevilla.
They may well make the play offs as will almost everyone, but will likely lose to a semi decent team in the play offs like Dortmund. Which would be ironic.
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I don’t disagree with that, but if we get all our sides through the group stage this time then that will be a big boost considering we lost United and Newcastle from Europe altogether at the group stage this time.
Pedigree is a thing and Villa are a bigger and more euro experienced side than the likes of Girona, Bologna and less so Stuttgart.
Bologna and Stuttgart will likely get picked to pieces this summer also whereas Villa probably only have to sell Douglas Luis, who is replaceable
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You seem to always talk about things that will and would happen rather than what has happened. Pre last season's tournaments you'd be boasting about Newcasle and Man Utd going far into the competitions. Villa easily winning the ECL and Liverpool winning the EL. Why not look at what actually happened? Liverpool pumped out by the very unfancied kind of Italian team you talk about?
Villa were crap and were pumped out of the conference league. I don't see why that suddenly now makes them a great team in the near future just because it hasn't happened yet and your viewpoints are based on making stuff up.
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Will and would happen and then you claim I would be boasting - doing the exact thing you accuse me of
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is more interesting that the PL only has 4 places but STILL has a crap unfancied team. Where as in Germany and Italy they had to get an additional space to add their unfancied teams. Like last year's finalist Dortmund.
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3 of the 4 English sides have won big ears
2 from 5 for Germany
3 from 5 for Italy
2 from 4 for Spain
In terms of teams making the final of big ears - only England and the Prem has a full house
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So why PL teams performing so poorly in Europe? Surely former CL winners Aston Villa and Liverpool should have won their respective tournament's last season? Two of the biggest spenders in Europe. Why is it next season that that makes a difference? Is it because it hasn't happened yet so you can make stuff up rather than looking at the evidence of just a few weeks ago?
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Well it will come down to Real Madrid and City again.
But I obliterated your point with the last argument - Africa had more sides than South America and Argentina won if <laughH
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Dearie me.
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He’s got me lads, warrra comeback
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The fact that you think that Argentina winning the World Cup proves the point that less dilution means your chances are higher demonstrates the fact that you have no grasp whatsoever on the issue you're discussing.
It's like talking to a brick wall, because your basic comprehension of the topic you're discussing is absolutely non-existent.
You've literally said that having more entrants from the same place means their chances of winning are lower because they will have to play each other more often.
It's beyond stupid.
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 35 seconds ago
Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
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Why is that relevant when only money counts?
Neither will do it, but Africa is best placed to reach a final.
This will be shown as they continue to outperform America in world cups.
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I think we will see America go for it in the next 20 years and win it in the next 30 whilst Africa at best makes one more semi final and at a push, 2 quarter finals
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You also thought the PIF will move Newcastle’s training ground to London.
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
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Ah yeah was going to add, make stuff up or make up excuses. PL sides got unlucky by drawing teams that beat them, who are actually crap, but they're not for this one particular argument. But are in the future. And PL teams would beat them if they didn't not.
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Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen are not crap. Atalanta are an up and coming side.
Olympiacos are average.
Listen Bazza - stick your money where your mouth is. I’m going to offer you a very generous bet here - where if you believed half of the shiete you talk you would take this bet.
I bet the following:
The Prem sides will all progress to the KO’s next season
1 Prem side will win a euro comp
England will finish top 2 in the co efficient
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
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Ur not very brite r u?
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Still brighter than you 4th skin - I’ve seen broken headlamps brighter than you son.
You keep pretending to be Italian and spelling like Wayne Rooney
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is more interesting that the PL only has 4 places but STILL has a crap unfancied team. Where as in Germany and Italy they had to get an additional space to add their unfancied teams. Like last year's finalist Dortmund.
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3 of the 4 English sides have won big ears
2 from 5 for Germany
3 from 5 for Italy
2 from 4 for Spain
In terms of teams making the final of big ears - only England and the Prem has a full house
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So why PL teams performing so poorly in Europe? Surely former CL winners Aston Villa and Liverpool should have won their respective tournament's last season? Two of the biggest spenders in Europe. Why is it next season that that makes a difference? Is it because it hasn't happened yet so you can make stuff up rather than looking at the evidence of just a few weeks ago?
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It’s because lightening very rarely strikes twice. The year before that English sides won 2 of the 3 comps.
Take my bet if you are so confident
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
It’s because lightening very rarely strikes twice.
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I'd wager it's hit you more than just twice.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Well it will come down to Real Madrid and City again.
But I obliterated your point with the last argument - Africa had more sides than South America and Argentina won if <laughH
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Dearie me.
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He’s got me lads, warrra comeback
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The fact that you think that Argentina winning the World Cup proves the point that less dilution means your chances are higher demonstrates the fact that you have no grasp whatsoever on the issue you're discussing.
It's like talking to a brick wall, because your basic comprehension of the topic you're discussing is absolutely non-existent.
You've literally said that having more entrants from the same place means their chances of winning are lower because they will have to play each other more often.
It's beyond stupid.
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Less dilution of the top continents means you are less likely to face another elite side from your continent. When you’re European or South American that’s a big deal because the other sides tend to be far better than their African and Asian counterparts.
Senegal were far easier in the World Cup for us yjan Scotland were in the Euros.
I haven’t got time to teach you GCSE maths, but this is fairly simple:
If you are Brazil and had the choice of playing the following in a World Cup quarter final:
Argentina
France
Senegal
You are choosing Senegal every day of the week and twice on a Sunday
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Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
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Why is that relevant when only money counts?
Neither will do it, but Africa is best placed to reach a final.
This will be shown as they continue to outperform America in world cups.
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I think we will see America go for it in the next 20 years and win it in the next 30 whilst Africa at best makes one more semi final and at a push, 2 quarter finals
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You also thought the PIF will move Newcastle’s training ground to London.
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That was a wind up and you know it - I was baiting someone, might have been Riobbing as he has a massive throb on for London. That was not a serious argument.
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posted on 11/6/24
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posted 35 seconds ago
Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
posted on 11/6/24
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posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
posted on 11/6/24
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Yeah Germany having 5th place get top 4 means that they now have Dortmund in the CL who finished 5th. This is likely to improve how the Germans do in Europe in terms of 5th place getting top 4. Not disimprove.
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They will have a greater chance of drawing each other though which based on pure maths alone will diminish their chances.
Additionally Germany, Italy and Spain have an “unfancied” side in the CL next year - Stuttgart, Bologna, Girona
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Villa
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Previous European cup winning Aston Villa?
Managed by multiple European silverware winner Sinai Emery.
They comfortably navigate this bloated group stage - I will offer odds of 3/1 of them getting knocked out in the group stage if you want it?
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No. The Villa that got pumped out of the 3rd rate European competition last season. Not the Villa of the 80s or Unai Emery's Sevilla.
They may well make the play offs as will almost everyone, but will likely lose to a semi decent team in the play offs like Dortmund. Which would be ironic.
posted on 11/6/24
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
posted on 11/6/24
It is more interesting that the PL only has 4 places but STILL has a crap unfancied team. Where as in Germany and Italy they had to get an additional space to add their unfancied teams. Like last year's finalist Dortmund.
posted on 11/6/24
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posted 1 minute ago
Well it will come down to Real Madrid and City again.
But I obliterated your point with the last argument - Africa had more sides than South America and Argentina won if <laughH
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Dearie me.
posted on 11/6/24
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posted 35 seconds ago
Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
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Why is that relevant when only money counts?
Neither will do it, but Africa is best placed to reach a final.
This will be shown as they continue to outperform America in world cups.
posted on 11/6/24
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posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah Germany having 5th place get top 4 means that they now have Dortmund in the CL who finished 5th. This is likely to improve how the Germans do in Europe in terms of 5th place getting top 4. Not disimprove.
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They will have a greater chance of drawing each other though which based on pure maths alone will diminish their chances.
Additionally Germany, Italy and Spain have an “unfancied” side in the CL next year - Stuttgart, Bologna, Girona
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Villa
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Previous European cup winning Aston Villa?
Managed by multiple European silverware winner Sinai Emery.
They comfortably navigate this bloated group stage - I will offer odds of 3/1 of them getting knocked out in the group stage if you want it?
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No. The Villa that got pumped out of the 3rd rate European competition last season. Not the Villa of the 80s or Unai Emery's Sevilla.
They may well make the play offs as will almost everyone, but will likely lose to a semi decent team in the play offs like Dortmund. Which would be ironic.
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I don’t disagree with that, but if we get all our sides through the group stage this time then that will be a big boost considering we lost United and Newcastle from Europe altogether at the group stage this time.
Pedigree is a thing and Villa are a bigger and more euro experienced side than the likes of Girona, Bologna and less so Stuttgart.
Bologna and Stuttgart will likely get picked to pieces this summer also whereas Villa probably only have to sell Douglas Luis, who is replaceable
posted on 11/6/24
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
posted on 11/6/24
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah Germany having 5th place get top 4 means that they now have Dortmund in the CL who finished 5th. This is likely to improve how the Germans do in Europe in terms of 5th place getting top 4. Not disimprove.
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They will have a greater chance of drawing each other though which based on pure maths alone will diminish their chances.
Additionally Germany, Italy and Spain have an “unfancied” side in the CL next year - Stuttgart, Bologna, Girona
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Villa
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Previous European cup winning Aston Villa?
Managed by multiple European silverware winner Sinai Emery.
They comfortably navigate this bloated group stage - I will offer odds of 3/1 of them getting knocked out in the group stage if you want it?
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No. The Villa that got pumped out of the 3rd rate European competition last season. Not the Villa of the 80s or Unai Emery's Sevilla.
They may well make the play offs as will almost everyone, but will likely lose to a semi decent team in the play offs like Dortmund. Which would be ironic.
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I don’t disagree with that, but if we get all our sides through the group stage this time then that will be a big boost considering we lost United and Newcastle from Europe altogether at the group stage this time.
Pedigree is a thing and Villa are a bigger and more euro experienced side than the likes of Girona, Bologna and less so Stuttgart.
Bologna and Stuttgart will likely get picked to pieces this summer also whereas Villa probably only have to sell Douglas Luis, who is replaceable
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You seem to always talk about things that will and would happen rather than what has happened. Pre last season's tournaments you'd be boasting about Newcasle and Man Utd going far into the competitions. Villa easily winning the ECL and Liverpool winning the EL. Why not look at what actually happened? Liverpool pumped out by the very unfancied kind of Italian team you talk about?
Villa were crap and were pumped out of the conference league. I don't see why that suddenly now makes them a great team in the near future just because it hasn't happened yet and your viewpoints are based on making stuff up.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is more interesting that the PL only has 4 places but STILL has a crap unfancied team. Where as in Germany and Italy they had to get an additional space to add their unfancied teams. Like last year's finalist Dortmund.
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3 of the 4 English sides have won big ears
2 from 5 for Germany
3 from 5 for Italy
2 from 4 for Spain
In terms of teams making the final of big ears - only England and the Prem has a full house
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
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Ah yeah was going to add, make stuff up or make up excuses. PL sides got unlucky by drawing teams that beat them, who are actually crap, but they're not for this one particular argument. But are in the future. And PL teams would beat them if they didn't not.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Well it will come down to Real Madrid and City again.
But I obliterated your point with the last argument - Africa had more sides than South America and Argentina won if <laughH
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Dearie me.
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He’s got me lads, warrra comeback
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
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Ur not very brite r u?
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
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posted 35 seconds ago
Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
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Why is that relevant when only money counts?
Neither will do it, but Africa is best placed to reach a final.
This will be shown as they continue to outperform America in world cups.
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I think we will see America go for it in the next 20 years and win it in the next 30 whilst Africa at best makes one more semi final and at a push, 2 quarter finals
posted on 11/6/24
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comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah Germany having 5th place get top 4 means that they now have Dortmund in the CL who finished 5th. This is likely to improve how the Germans do in Europe in terms of 5th place getting top 4. Not disimprove.
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They will have a greater chance of drawing each other though which based on pure maths alone will diminish their chances.
Additionally Germany, Italy and Spain have an “unfancied” side in the CL next year - Stuttgart, Bologna, Girona
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Villa
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Previous European cup winning Aston Villa?
Managed by multiple European silverware winner Sinai Emery.
They comfortably navigate this bloated group stage - I will offer odds of 3/1 of them getting knocked out in the group stage if you want it?
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No. The Villa that got pumped out of the 3rd rate European competition last season. Not the Villa of the 80s or Unai Emery's Sevilla.
They may well make the play offs as will almost everyone, but will likely lose to a semi decent team in the play offs like Dortmund. Which would be ironic.
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I don’t disagree with that, but if we get all our sides through the group stage this time then that will be a big boost considering we lost United and Newcastle from Europe altogether at the group stage this time.
Pedigree is a thing and Villa are a bigger and more euro experienced side than the likes of Girona, Bologna and less so Stuttgart.
Bologna and Stuttgart will likely get picked to pieces this summer also whereas Villa probably only have to sell Douglas Luis, who is replaceable
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You seem to always talk about things that will and would happen rather than what has happened. Pre last season's tournaments you'd be boasting about Newcasle and Man Utd going far into the competitions. Villa easily winning the ECL and Liverpool winning the EL. Why not look at what actually happened? Liverpool pumped out by the very unfancied kind of Italian team you talk about?
Villa were crap and were pumped out of the conference league. I don't see why that suddenly now makes them a great team in the near future just because it hasn't happened yet and your viewpoints are based on making stuff up.
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Will and would happen and then you claim I would be boasting - doing the exact thing you accuse me of
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
It is more interesting that the PL only has 4 places but STILL has a crap unfancied team. Where as in Germany and Italy they had to get an additional space to add their unfancied teams. Like last year's finalist Dortmund.
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3 of the 4 English sides have won big ears
2 from 5 for Germany
3 from 5 for Italy
2 from 4 for Spain
In terms of teams making the final of big ears - only England and the Prem has a full house
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So why PL teams performing so poorly in Europe? Surely former CL winners Aston Villa and Liverpool should have won their respective tournament's last season? Two of the biggest spenders in Europe. Why is it next season that that makes a difference? Is it because it hasn't happened yet so you can make stuff up rather than looking at the evidence of just a few weeks ago?
posted on 11/6/24
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posted 13 seconds ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
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comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Well it will come down to Real Madrid and City again.
But I obliterated your point with the last argument - Africa had more sides than South America and Argentina won if <laughH
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Dearie me.
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He’s got me lads, warrra comeback
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The fact that you think that Argentina winning the World Cup proves the point that less dilution means your chances are higher demonstrates the fact that you have no grasp whatsoever on the issue you're discussing.
It's like talking to a brick wall, because your basic comprehension of the topic you're discussing is absolutely non-existent.
You've literally said that having more entrants from the same place means their chances of winning are lower because they will have to play each other more often.
It's beyond stupid.
posted on 11/6/24
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 35 seconds ago
Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
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Why is that relevant when only money counts?
Neither will do it, but Africa is best placed to reach a final.
This will be shown as they continue to outperform America in world cups.
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I think we will see America go for it in the next 20 years and win it in the next 30 whilst Africa at best makes one more semi final and at a push, 2 quarter finals
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You also thought the PIF will move Newcastle’s training ground to London.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 35 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 28 seconds ago
SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
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Ah yeah was going to add, make stuff up or make up excuses. PL sides got unlucky by drawing teams that beat them, who are actually crap, but they're not for this one particular argument. But are in the future. And PL teams would beat them if they didn't not.
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Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen are not crap. Atalanta are an up and coming side.
Olympiacos are average.
Listen Bazza - stick your money where your mouth is. I’m going to offer you a very generous bet here - where if you believed half of the shiete you talk you would take this bet.
I bet the following:
The Prem sides will all progress to the KO’s next season
1 Prem side will win a euro comp
England will finish top 2 in the co efficient
posted on 11/6/24
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SerieA n EPL had saim number o teams in europe lassed season
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Yeah it’s this year that Italy has mote
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So y did serie a teams on average doo significantly moor betterer than epl?
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No idea, why did Napoli sink without a trace this season gone despite winning the league the previous year.
There will always be anomalies.
English clubs were outrageously unlucky with the qf draw of their respective comps. City got the only team capable of beating them, Liverpool drew the eventual winners, West Ham drew the German double winners and even Villa got arguably the hardest draw left at that point.
OPTA had Englands chances of getting the additional euro spot at 92% pre draw and 69% afterwards - it was statistically the hardest set of draws we could have got. Chances of that happening again I would say are slim to none.
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Ur not very brite r u?
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Still brighter than you 4th skin - I’ve seen broken headlamps brighter than you son.
You keep pretending to be Italian and spelling like Wayne Rooney
posted on 11/6/24
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It is more interesting that the PL only has 4 places but STILL has a crap unfancied team. Where as in Germany and Italy they had to get an additional space to add their unfancied teams. Like last year's finalist Dortmund.
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3 of the 4 English sides have won big ears
2 from 5 for Germany
3 from 5 for Italy
2 from 4 for Spain
In terms of teams making the final of big ears - only England and the Prem has a full house
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So why PL teams performing so poorly in Europe? Surely former CL winners Aston Villa and Liverpool should have won their respective tournament's last season? Two of the biggest spenders in Europe. Why is it next season that that makes a difference? Is it because it hasn't happened yet so you can make stuff up rather than looking at the evidence of just a few weeks ago?
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It’s because lightening very rarely strikes twice. The year before that English sides won 2 of the 3 comps.
Take my bet if you are so confident
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It’s because lightening very rarely strikes twice.
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I'd wager it's hit you more than just twice.
posted on 11/6/24
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Well it will come down to Real Madrid and City again.
But I obliterated your point with the last argument - Africa had more sides than South America and Argentina won if <laughH
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Dearie me.
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He’s got me lads, warrra comeback
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The fact that you think that Argentina winning the World Cup proves the point that less dilution means your chances are higher demonstrates the fact that you have no grasp whatsoever on the issue you're discussing.
It's like talking to a brick wall, because your basic comprehension of the topic you're discussing is absolutely non-existent.
You've literally said that having more entrants from the same place means their chances of winning are lower because they will have to play each other more often.
It's beyond stupid.
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Less dilution of the top continents means you are less likely to face another elite side from your continent. When you’re European or South American that’s a big deal because the other sides tend to be far better than their African and Asian counterparts.
Senegal were far easier in the World Cup for us yjan Scotland were in the Euros.
I haven’t got time to teach you GCSE maths, but this is fairly simple:
If you are Brazil and had the choice of playing the following in a World Cup quarter final:
Argentina
France
Senegal
You are choosing Senegal every day of the week and twice on a Sunday
posted on 11/6/24
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Unless being the key word in your argument, that still doesn’t guarantee anything. And it really shouldn’t need explaining why the women’s game is not relevant to the men’s.
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The women’s game in America is the key point of my argument - it was money that made the US womens team dominant and if the biggest economy in the world which churns out world class athletes ten a penny ever turns the taps on for the men’s game we will see them win the World Cup.
What else can Africa do? Hope their best players don’t get nicked? Hire better coaches on low salaries? Improve their domestic leagues?
4 World Cup quarters and 1 semi from a whole continent when America has a semi and a quarter by itself
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I know it’s the key point of your argument, but it’s a facking stupid point.
America already had an established culture of football within the women’s game before international football was even a thing.
They had an advantage over everyone else that just doesn’t exist in the men’s game. And it’s far harder for the men’s game to compete when up against all the other major sports in America alone, in a way that just isn’t comparable to the women’s game.
Your argument just seems to be ‘if money is spent’ without considering any other factor.
If money is all that mattered then China would have overtaken 90% of football when they tried it. But they soon gave up that project when they realised the futility of it.
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China doesn’t have a World Cup semi under its belt - mind you, neither did the African continent until Qatar do maybe China shouldn’t give up too soon.
Africa won’t do it - and we can have this argument in 30 years and I will still be correct on that. If America turn the taps on properly for the men’s game - and I believe they will in the next 20 years then it will be a matter of when not if
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Why is that relevant when only money counts?
Neither will do it, but Africa is best placed to reach a final.
This will be shown as they continue to outperform America in world cups.
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I think we will see America go for it in the next 20 years and win it in the next 30 whilst Africa at best makes one more semi final and at a push, 2 quarter finals
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You also thought the PIF will move Newcastle’s training ground to London.
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That was a wind up and you know it - I was baiting someone, might have been Riobbing as he has a massive throb on for London. That was not a serious argument.
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