Best defender in the league
Class player! Will miss him when he's retired
My son said exactly the same thing, I must admit I feared the worst today, Evans, Casi and Erickson aren’t the quickest
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 7 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was struggling for a while when he left and I doubt many questioned selling him.
Hindsight is great but we probably should have brought him back instead of letting him go to Leicester.
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
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It doesn't matter what level you play at, you need to play games to improve. Evans was correct to leave
Idiots will never concede that the ONLY current defenders at the club that are genuinely suited for this league are the three that have been there the longest.
Not that means they are great, it's more that the others have clearly not been - except AWB, but that's another issue for another day.
Today, though, the club needs to respect the contributions of fernandes, Evans, Hojlund, eriksen, Onana and Garnacho. The rest were ....
This is why it makes me laugh when people state VVD is the best PL defender ever. Old man Evans is playing to the same level as him now and he was nowhere near Rio and Vidic back in the day. Nor Jones and Smalling come to think of it.
Jonny's a really solid PL defender and I'm glad we have him though. Even if the lack of top class forwards is making the job of CB much easier nowadays.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 23 minutes ago
This is why it makes me laugh when people state VVD is the best PL defender ever. Old man Evans is playing to the same level as him now and he was nowhere near Rio and Vidic back in the day. Nor Jones and Smalling come to think of it.
Jonny's a really solid PL defender and I'm glad we have him though. Even if the lack of top class forwards is making the job of CB much easier nowadays.
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tbf, VVD is quite possibly the most overrated CB ever.
Absolutely bulletproof when it comes to criticising or even highlighting his many mistakes.
We should no longer be surprised by Evans' assured performances, as they clearly stem from his vast experience. He no longer panics like he used to do during his first stint at Utd, the attributes have always been there, the calmness, good decision-making on a consistent basis and individual errors not so. He and De Ligt formed a very good partnership; communicating, organising and reading each other's positions well. Evans could really have a transformative impact on both De Ligt and Yoro as a player and I hope he stays at the club after retirement in a coaching capacity.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
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It doesn't matter what level you play at, you need to play games to improve. Evans was correct to leave
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Of course but he was never going to displace Rio and vidic, he wasn't good enough at the time.
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
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It doesn't matter what level you play at, you need to play games to improve. Evans was correct to leave
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Of course but he was never going to displace Rio and vidic, he wasn't good enough at the time.
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Rio & Vidic both left United before Evans.
Rio and Vidic had both gone when we sold Evans (for peanuts, might I add). We then went on to spend, I would imagine about £250m on CBs before bringing Evans back. And out of those, only Varane had ever been a better defender than Evans.
Regardless of hindsight, it was a horrific bit of business to let him go for what we did. Genuinely one of our worst of the past decade.
comment by -bloodred-
posted 2 minutes ago
Rio and Vidic had both gone when we sold Evans (for peanuts, might I add). We then went on to spend, I would imagine about £250m on CBs before bringing Evans back. And out of those, only Varane had ever been a better defender than Evans.
Regardless of hindsight, it was a horrific bit of business to let him go for what we did. Genuinely one of our worst of the past decade.
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The biggest mistake we made, other than selling him, was not including a buy-back clause and triggering it sooner. It was an era of wastefulness and sporting cluelessness by Woodward, highlighted by letting one of our own go cheaply when keeping him and building a defence around him would have made more sense.
The thing is if we’d brought back Evans sooner many would have complained about it.
comment by Vengeance
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred-
posted 2 minutes ago
Rio and Vidic had both gone when we sold Evans (for peanuts, might I add). We then went on to spend, I would imagine about £250m on CBs before bringing Evans back. And out of those, only Varane had ever been a better defender than Evans.
Regardless of hindsight, it was a horrific bit of business to let him go for what we did. Genuinely one of our worst of the past decade.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The biggest mistake we made, other than selling him, was not including a buy-back clause and triggering it sooner. It was an era of wastefulness and sporting cluelessness by Woodward, highlighted by letting one of our own go cheaply when keeping him and building a defence around him would have made more sense.
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His time away from United undoubtedly shaped the player we see today. The reduced spotlight and the pressure of competing with two of the greatest CBs in our history likely took a toll on him mentally, contributing to the individual errors he was prone to making. That aspect of his game diminished outside of United, so perhaps he needed that time away, but I still believe we should have brought him back much sooner.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
The thing is if we’d brought back Evans sooner many would have complained about it.
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No, "some" would have! Our fanbase is still afflicted by the same moaners who seek something new to whine about.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 23 minutes ago
This is why it makes me laugh when people state VVD is the best PL defender ever. Old man Evans is playing to the same level as him now and he was nowhere near Rio and Vidic back in the day. Nor Jones and Smalling come to think of it.
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Wow.
Fans did moan when we resigned Evans. Quite rightly too. Its an terrible indication of where United are right now that hes probably the most dependable of all the Centre Backs assembled recently at United. He knows what winning attitude is required though from the Fergie days and the others should try and learn from the example he is setting right now. Its mad that this is the case.
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fans did moan when we resigned Evans. Quite rightly too. Its an terrible indication of where United are right now that hes probably the most dependable of all the Centre Backs assembled recently at United. He knows what winning attitude is required though from the Fergie days and the others should try and learn from the example he is setting right now. Its mad that this is the case.
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Never understood the moaning. He was signed to be 5th choice CB on a free.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred-
posted 2 minutes ago
Rio and Vidic had both gone when we sold Evans (for peanuts, might I add). We then went on to spend, I would imagine about £250m on CBs before bringing Evans back. And out of those, only Varane had ever been a better defender than Evans.
Regardless of hindsight, it was a horrific bit of business to let him go for what we did. Genuinely one of our worst of the past decade.
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The biggest mistake we made, other than selling him, was not including a buy-back clause and triggering it sooner. It was an era of wastefulness and sporting cluelessness by Woodward, highlighted by letting one of our own go cheaply when keeping him and building a defence around him would have made more sense.
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His time away from United undoubtedly shaped the player we see today. The reduced spotlight and the pressure of competing with two of the greatest CBs in our history likely took a toll on him mentally, contributing to the individual errors he was prone to making. That aspect of his game diminished outside of United, so perhaps he needed that time away, but I still believe we should have brought him back much sooner.
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It's pretty common for centre backs to mature as players later than other positions. The stakes revolving around micro-judgements (positioning, interpretation of space, anticipation) are higher than they are for e.g. forwards, so it's natural that experience is particularly important. I don't think Evans was especially error-prone for a young CB. He was just a young CB, and that's what they do.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
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It doesn't matter what level you play at, you need to play games to improve. Evans was correct to leave
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Of course but he was never going to displace Rio and vidic, he wasn't good enough at the time.
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Rio & Vidic both left United before Evans.
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Let's not be pedantic shall we. It was only one year.
9 years ago, when he left, Jonny Evans was not as good as he is today, in my opinion and would not have been able to be the main man in CB after Rio and Vidic left.
We also had Chris smalling, who was decent but not at the level we needed to be a top side.
I think people are getting a bit rose tinted glasses here. If Evans was Pl title winning level he would not have ended up at west brom ffs.
Evans was a victim of LVG. Wasn't the only one. Largely dependable home grown player shipped out to be replaced by expensive, inferior overseas signing.
You could probably add a few to the list. Rafael, Fletcher, Welbeck.
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posted on 19/10/24
Best defender in the league
posted on 19/10/24
Class player! Will miss him when he's retired
posted on 19/10/24
My son said exactly the same thing, I must admit I feared the worst today, Evans, Casi and Erickson aren’t the quickest
posted on 19/10/24
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
posted on 19/10/24
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 7 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was struggling for a while when he left and I doubt many questioned selling him.
Hindsight is great but we probably should have brought him back instead of letting him go to Leicester.
posted on 19/10/24
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
posted on 19/10/24
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It doesn't matter what level you play at, you need to play games to improve. Evans was correct to leave
posted on 19/10/24
Idiots will never concede that the ONLY current defenders at the club that are genuinely suited for this league are the three that have been there the longest.
Not that means they are great, it's more that the others have clearly not been - except AWB, but that's another issue for another day.
Today, though, the club needs to respect the contributions of fernandes, Evans, Hojlund, eriksen, Onana and Garnacho. The rest were ....
posted on 19/10/24
This is why it makes me laugh when people state VVD is the best PL defender ever. Old man Evans is playing to the same level as him now and he was nowhere near Rio and Vidic back in the day. Nor Jones and Smalling come to think of it.
Jonny's a really solid PL defender and I'm glad we have him though. Even if the lack of top class forwards is making the job of CB much easier nowadays.
posted on 19/10/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 23 minutes ago
This is why it makes me laugh when people state VVD is the best PL defender ever. Old man Evans is playing to the same level as him now and he was nowhere near Rio and Vidic back in the day. Nor Jones and Smalling come to think of it.
Jonny's a really solid PL defender and I'm glad we have him though. Even if the lack of top class forwards is making the job of CB much easier nowadays.
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tbf, VVD is quite possibly the most overrated CB ever.
Absolutely bulletproof when it comes to criticising or even highlighting his many mistakes.
posted on 19/10/24
* many rare mistakes
posted on 19/10/24
We should no longer be surprised by Evans' assured performances, as they clearly stem from his vast experience. He no longer panics like he used to do during his first stint at Utd, the attributes have always been there, the calmness, good decision-making on a consistent basis and individual errors not so. He and De Ligt formed a very good partnership; communicating, organising and reading each other's positions well. Evans could really have a transformative impact on both De Ligt and Yoro as a player and I hope he stays at the club after retirement in a coaching capacity.
posted on 19/10/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It doesn't matter what level you play at, you need to play games to improve. Evans was correct to leave
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course but he was never going to displace Rio and vidic, he wasn't good enough at the time.
posted on 19/10/24
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It doesn't matter what level you play at, you need to play games to improve. Evans was correct to leave
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Of course but he was never going to displace Rio and vidic, he wasn't good enough at the time.
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Rio & Vidic both left United before Evans.
posted on 19/10/24
Rio and Vidic had both gone when we sold Evans (for peanuts, might I add). We then went on to spend, I would imagine about £250m on CBs before bringing Evans back. And out of those, only Varane had ever been a better defender than Evans.
Regardless of hindsight, it was a horrific bit of business to let him go for what we did. Genuinely one of our worst of the past decade.
posted on 19/10/24
comment by -bloodred-
posted 2 minutes ago
Rio and Vidic had both gone when we sold Evans (for peanuts, might I add). We then went on to spend, I would imagine about £250m on CBs before bringing Evans back. And out of those, only Varane had ever been a better defender than Evans.
Regardless of hindsight, it was a horrific bit of business to let him go for what we did. Genuinely one of our worst of the past decade.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The biggest mistake we made, other than selling him, was not including a buy-back clause and triggering it sooner. It was an era of wastefulness and sporting cluelessness by Woodward, highlighted by letting one of our own go cheaply when keeping him and building a defence around him would have made more sense.
posted on 19/10/24
The thing is if we’d brought back Evans sooner many would have complained about it.
posted on 19/10/24
comment by Vengeance
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred-
posted 2 minutes ago
Rio and Vidic had both gone when we sold Evans (for peanuts, might I add). We then went on to spend, I would imagine about £250m on CBs before bringing Evans back. And out of those, only Varane had ever been a better defender than Evans.
Regardless of hindsight, it was a horrific bit of business to let him go for what we did. Genuinely one of our worst of the past decade.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The biggest mistake we made, other than selling him, was not including a buy-back clause and triggering it sooner. It was an era of wastefulness and sporting cluelessness by Woodward, highlighted by letting one of our own go cheaply when keeping him and building a defence around him would have made more sense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His time away from United undoubtedly shaped the player we see today. The reduced spotlight and the pressure of competing with two of the greatest CBs in our history likely took a toll on him mentally, contributing to the individual errors he was prone to making. That aspect of his game diminished outside of United, so perhaps he needed that time away, but I still believe we should have brought him back much sooner.
posted on 19/10/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
The thing is if we’d brought back Evans sooner many would have complained about it.
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No, "some" would have! Our fanbase is still afflicted by the same moaners who seek something new to whine about.
posted on 20/10/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 23 minutes ago
This is why it makes me laugh when people state VVD is the best PL defender ever. Old man Evans is playing to the same level as him now and he was nowhere near Rio and Vidic back in the day. Nor Jones and Smalling come to think of it.
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Wow.
posted on 20/10/24
Fans did moan when we resigned Evans. Quite rightly too. Its an terrible indication of where United are right now that hes probably the most dependable of all the Centre Backs assembled recently at United. He knows what winning attitude is required though from the Fergie days and the others should try and learn from the example he is setting right now. Its mad that this is the case.
posted on 20/10/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fans did moan when we resigned Evans. Quite rightly too. Its an terrible indication of where United are right now that hes probably the most dependable of all the Centre Backs assembled recently at United. He knows what winning attitude is required though from the Fergie days and the others should try and learn from the example he is setting right now. Its mad that this is the case.
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Never understood the moaning. He was signed to be 5th choice CB on a free.
posted on 20/10/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred-
posted 2 minutes ago
Rio and Vidic had both gone when we sold Evans (for peanuts, might I add). We then went on to spend, I would imagine about £250m on CBs before bringing Evans back. And out of those, only Varane had ever been a better defender than Evans.
Regardless of hindsight, it was a horrific bit of business to let him go for what we did. Genuinely one of our worst of the past decade.
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The biggest mistake we made, other than selling him, was not including a buy-back clause and triggering it sooner. It was an era of wastefulness and sporting cluelessness by Woodward, highlighted by letting one of our own go cheaply when keeping him and building a defence around him would have made more sense.
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His time away from United undoubtedly shaped the player we see today. The reduced spotlight and the pressure of competing with two of the greatest CBs in our history likely took a toll on him mentally, contributing to the individual errors he was prone to making. That aspect of his game diminished outside of United, so perhaps he needed that time away, but I still believe we should have brought him back much sooner.
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It's pretty common for centre backs to mature as players later than other positions. The stakes revolving around micro-judgements (positioning, interpretation of space, anticipation) are higher than they are for e.g. forwards, so it's natural that experience is particularly important. I don't think Evans was especially error-prone for a young CB. He was just a young CB, and that's what they do.
posted on 20/10/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by #1 House - (U17162)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does make you think why did we ever sell him
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He was compared to Rio and vidic and at the time wasn't anywhere near as good as either. Often made pretty bad mistakes.
He improved when he left United and got even better at Leicester.
He's now at the end of his career but he hasn't really lost the talent he gained over the years.
Class player and class act.
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It doesn't matter what level you play at, you need to play games to improve. Evans was correct to leave
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Of course but he was never going to displace Rio and vidic, he wasn't good enough at the time.
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Rio & Vidic both left United before Evans.
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Let's not be pedantic shall we. It was only one year.
9 years ago, when he left, Jonny Evans was not as good as he is today, in my opinion and would not have been able to be the main man in CB after Rio and Vidic left.
We also had Chris smalling, who was decent but not at the level we needed to be a top side.
I think people are getting a bit rose tinted glasses here. If Evans was Pl title winning level he would not have ended up at west brom ffs.
posted on 20/10/24
Evans was a victim of LVG. Wasn't the only one. Largely dependable home grown player shipped out to be replaced by expensive, inferior overseas signing.
You could probably add a few to the list. Rafael, Fletcher, Welbeck.
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