Gnome won’t cut it in the PL

I’ve always said our over reliance on Bruno and Rashford was holding us back from progressing as a team over the years, if we do get £100m bite their hands off and invest in more players.

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gnome won’t cut it in the PL
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Probably to short eh?

comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 47 seconds ago
I’ve always said our over reliance on Bruno and Rashford was holding us back from progressing as a team over the years, if we do get £100m bite their hands off and invest in more players.
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We do certainly need to spread the goals out a bit and be less reliant on one player. It feels a bit harsh on Bruno, but I do think its the case. Its kind of the same as when Ronaldo returned. He played well as an individual, but his presence was detrimental to the team as a whole.

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 47 seconds ago
I’ve always said our over reliance on Bruno and Rashford was holding us back from progressing as a team over the years, if we do get £100m bite their hands off and invest in more players.
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We do certainly need to spread the goals out a bit and be less reliant on one player. It feels a bit harsh on Bruno, but I do think its the case. Its kind of the same as when Ronaldo returned. He played well as an individual, but his presence was detrimental to the team as a whole.
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How do we replace 40 goals and assists, many of them (15) from central midfield?

We’ve just had an historically, spectacularly poor season in terms of goalscoring. This is the one guy who consistently delivers goals and creates chances (as many as anyone in Europe’s top five leagues, every season).

If we take his goals out, and we take his chance creation out (almost a third of all of those for the entire first team squad), we’re putting ourselves in dangerous territory.

I feel I am going to go a bit 'Championship manager game' here, but I guess we can all be guilty of that.

With Bruno, my ideal scenario would have been to keep him for a further year, to allow to bed in new signings and just have a bit of continuity with our best player from last season.
But sometimes circumstances can dictate that you have to bite the bullet and make a decision that you will get pillared for if it doesn't work out.

So.............we sell Bruno, Onana, Sancho, Rashford, Antony, Nacho..............maybe we get about £200 - £250 million all in

I assume the Cunha funds were available already.......

Bring in another Cunha / Mbuemo type player to play off the CF. Bring in a GK, another CM (should we go back for Frankie De J??!!)

But most importantly, a CF. I see the likes of Delap, Oshimen, David, Kean etc being mentioned, none of them really float my boat - i would rather we tried to bring in as proven a player as possible for that position. Honestly, I don't even know who that is, but I appreciate the financial restrictions, but we seem to be linked to players based more on price rather than quality.
Of course no guarantees with any transfer, but even Mateta i would consider, or Evanilson, who has been unfortunate with injuries this season and I would expect to improve. At least they know what the EPL is all about.

comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 47 seconds ago
I’ve always said our over reliance on Bruno and Rashford was holding us back from progressing as a team over the years, if we do get £100m bite their hands off and invest in more players.
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We do certainly need to spread the goals out a bit and be less reliant on one player. It feels a bit harsh on Bruno, but I do think its the case. Its kind of the same as when Ronaldo returned. He played well as an individual, but his presence was detrimental to the team as a whole.
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How do we replace 40 goals and assists, many of them (15) from central midfield?

We’ve just had an historically, spectacularly poor season in terms of goalscoring. This is the one guy who consistently delivers goals and creates chances (as many as anyone in Europe’s top five leagues, every season).

If we take his goals out, and we take his chance creation out (almost a third of all of those for the entire first team squad), we’re putting ourselves in dangerous territory.
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One of the main ways will be to have less greedy and wasteful wide players. The main culprit is Garnacho. His conversion rate is absolutely criminal. And he rarely passes/crosses. Rashford was the same before him as was Antony.

I know its standard to just slate Hojlund, but the level of service he receives is woeful. Whoever is playing up front for us next season needs better service. Amad being a regular starter will help in that regard, as will Cunha. We will have to see what other players we bring in, but other teams aren't so reliant on one player. There is no reason we should be. It's the managers job to solve the problem.

Athletic reporting it now, Bruno giving serious consideration to the move

https://x.com/lauriewhitwell/status/1928369954132222438?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

£100m would be a lot and I could see how it could be very tempting. However, if we are trying to get players in over the Summer I wonder what kind of look selling our best player would be? For example if I were Gyokeres would I want to see my most probably source of supply leave?

Bruno still has plenty in the tank and he can go to Saudi in the future. Perhaps next Summer once we've sorted ourselves out even if it's for only £50m?

For example if I were Gyokeres would I want to see my most probably source of supply leave?

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Not sure he will care when he’s at arsenal

Pogba must be due a return soon?

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 5 minutes ago
For example if I were Gyokeres would I want to see my most probably source of supply leave?

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Not sure he will care when he’s at arsenal
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He's OT bound!

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 20 minutes ago
I feel I am going to go a bit 'Championship manager game' here, but I guess we can all be guilty of that.

With Bruno, my ideal scenario would have been to keep him for a further year, to allow to bed in new signings and just have a bit of continuity with our best player from last season.
But sometimes circumstances can dictate that you have to bite the bullet and make a decision that you will get pillared for if it doesn't work out.

So.............we sell Bruno, Onana, Sancho, Rashford, Antony, Nacho..............maybe we get about £200 - £250 million all in

I assume the Cunha funds were available already.......

Bring in another Cunha / Mbuemo type player to play off the CF. Bring in a GK, another CM (should we go back for Frankie De J??!!)

But most importantly, a CF. I see the likes of Delap, Oshimen, David, Kean etc being mentioned, none of them really float my boat - i would rather we tried to bring in as proven a player as possible for that position. Honestly, I don't even know who that is, but I appreciate the financial restrictions, but we seem to be linked to players based more on price rather than quality.
Of course no guarantees with any transfer, but even Mateta i would consider, or Evanilson, who has been unfortunate with injuries this season and I would expect to improve. At least they know what the EPL is all about.
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I like the idea of Mateta. How much do you think he costs?

Disregarding money and everything else, I can’t imagine a top pro like Bruno would want to go from PL to Saudi, as of yet he shows no signs of slowing down

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 minutes ago
£100m would be a lot and I could see how it could be very tempting. However, if we are trying to get players in over the Summer I wonder what kind of look selling our best player would be? For example if I were Gyokeres would I want to see my most probably source of supply leave?

Bruno still has plenty in the tank and he can go to Saudi in the future. Perhaps next Summer once we've sorted ourselves out even if it's for only £50m?
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Well that is up to the manager to explain to any new striker how we are going to play and where the chances are going to be coming from. So it might be the case that any new striker is the last signing after we have got a few signings through the door and an idea of how the team will look.

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 9 minutes ago
Pogba must be due a return soon?
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#back2backpogback

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 5 minutes ago
For example if I were Gyokeres would I want to see my most probably source of supply leave?

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Not sure he will care when he’s at arsenal
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He's OT bound!
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He wants CL football and Amorim didn't even sound that interested when he discussed him a few weeks back.

comment by Tony Le Mesmer (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Disregarding money and everything else, I can’t imagine a top pro like Bruno would want to go from PL to Saudi, as of yet he shows no signs of slowing down
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£200m contract is giving him serious pause for thought.

It’s a tricky one, he’s clearly our best and most effective player but at the same time I think there is a debate about how we can grow as a team with him moving on and not being so reliant on a single player. The issue for me is how much do we trust the club to spend the money well? If we can bring in a couple £50m players in their early/mid 20s that will be a significant upgrade on what we currently have then I think it’s a no brainer, but I’m just not sure if we can?

I’m still skeptical Bruno would want the move but I guess if you offer a bloke £200m in wages you’re going to have to think long and hard about it. Can’t they take Rashford and Casemiro instead?

I'm very torn on this. Rosso is right that there's a strong chance we get worse still if we sell Bruno. On the other hand, if we turn down £100m now and he finally starts to show signs of physical decline, we could come to regret another strategic error of holding onto a player too long, failing to cash in at the best moment. Ideally this offer would have come in a year or two further into the rebuild.

What's clear is that if we sold him, we'd need to nail all of the incoming transfers. £100m isn't going to be enough to offset Bruno's contribution with net improvements across the field, so I think this is something we can only do if we also manage to sell two of Rashford, Sancho and Antony, as well as Garnacho. Then there's some serious money to invest, and a lot of wages off the books.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s a tricky one, he’s clearly our best and most effective player but at the same time I think there is a debate about how we can grow as a team with him moving on and not being so reliant on a single player. The issue for me is how much do we trust the club to spend the money well? If we can bring in a couple £50m players in their early/mid 20s that will be a significant upgrade on what we currently have then I think it’s a no brainer, but I’m just not sure if we can?

I’m still skeptical Bruno would want the move but I guess if you offer a bloke £200m in wages you’re going to have to think long and hard about it. Can’t they take Rashford and Casemiro instead?
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Trusting the club to spend the money well is an issue. But we can't not sign players, so it is what it is. We just have to hope they few more right than wrong.

If it's his choice let him go.
If it's ours keep him, at least for a season.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm very torn on this. Rosso is right that there's a strong chance we get worse still if we sell Bruno. On the other hand, if we turn down £100m now and he finally starts to show signs of physical decline, we could come to regret another strategic error of holding onto a player too long, failing to cash in at the best moment. Ideally this offer would have come in a year or two further into the rebuild.

What's clear is that if we sold him, we'd need to nail all of the incoming transfers. £100m isn't going to be enough to offset Bruno's contribution with net improvements across the field, so I think this is something we can only do if we also manage to sell two of Rashford, Sancho and Antony, as well as Garnacho. Then there's some serious money to invest, and a lot of wages off the books.
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Reports this morning that ETH wants to sign Antony. I don' think that we will have any problems getting rid of Nacho. And I am hopeful on Rashford. Sancho is the problem for me. Just can't see anyone wanting to buy him.

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 20 minutes ago
I feel I am going to go a bit 'Championship manager game' here, but I guess we can all be guilty of that.

With Bruno, my ideal scenario would have been to keep him for a further year, to allow to bed in new signings and just have a bit of continuity with our best player from last season.
But sometimes circumstances can dictate that you have to bite the bullet and make a decision that you will get pillared for if it doesn't work out.

So.............we sell Bruno, Onana, Sancho, Rashford, Antony, Nacho..............maybe we get about £200 - £250 million all in

I assume the Cunha funds were available already.......

Bring in another Cunha / Mbuemo type player to play off the CF. Bring in a GK, another CM (should we go back for Frankie De J??!!)

But most importantly, a CF. I see the likes of Delap, Oshimen, David, Kean etc being mentioned, none of them really float my boat - i would rather we tried to bring in as proven a player as possible for that position. Honestly, I don't even know who that is, but I appreciate the financial restrictions, but we seem to be linked to players based more on price rather than quality.
Of course no guarantees with any transfer, but even Mateta i would consider, or Evanilson, who has been unfortunate with injuries this season and I would expect to improve. At least they know what the EPL is all about.
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I like the idea of Mateta. How much do you think he costs?
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I would think he would be similar to Cunha price wise, maybe a little less. In a dream world I would take Eze also, but could see him being more in the 70-80 million range.

But if we sold Bruno, Nacho and Rashford, it would be more than covered.

A front 3 of Cunha, Mateta, Eze / Mbuemo - if they can't get a hatful of goals between them, we really are rubbish. Bring on the Lion King chants

We need to both score goals but spread amongst the team also, and have less reliance on one player.

Greater consistency and team performances, we have relied on moments of individual brilliance and nothing else for too long.

I would go for Matz Sels as GK also.

Bruno G+A were directly responsible for 12 points in the PL last season.