Gerrard has nothing to offer the international game, I probably wouldn't even take him to the Euro's if all the other options are available for selection.

At least in his prime he had a drive and off the ball running which although wasn't hugely effective for England, still was something he brought to the table.

He's clearly finished now.

I agree, good player but not the future of England. We should be looking ahead to the WC in 2014 and Gerrard isn't the answer.

It is time to give younger players the chance, he's had enough time and never performed to his full ability for England

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oh look the mancs are out!! bring back scholes!!!!

bring back scholes!!!!
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I'd certainly take Scholes ahead of Gerrard.

The problem Gerrard has had with England is no one has played him to his strengths...Gerrard should always play behind Rooney, with 2 defensively minded midfielders supporting him..not Lampard and Carrick

course you wud your a United Fan but Scholes offered less at international level than Gerrard did.

I really do hope that Gerrard retires from England, so we would get another three or four years of him plating for us.

Neon:
Absolutely agree, if last night was anything to go by the future of the England team is bleak indeed!

Yawn.

Why not Carrick? He's probably the best English DM available on current form.

I think the likes of Terry, Gerrard, Lampard and dare I say it, Ashley Cole should retire but give them a chance at this Euros first as a swan song. If they are on form of course and worthy of a place.

This Euros is gonna be a nothing for us really so let them have one final crack at it. Then concentrate on the youngsters to build a team for the next 3 majors.

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I don't get the whole "we should be looking forward to 2014" argument, are people aware that before the world cup in 2010 no European team had won the world cup outside of Europe?

Whilst we have no chance of winning the Euros we have even less chance of winning in Brazil 2014

The problem Gerrard has had with England is no one has played him to his strengths...Gerrard should always play behind Rooney, with 2 defensively minded midfielders supporting him..not Lampard and Carrick
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For me the best of Gerrard was his younger days as a box to box midfielder, was an international class prospect in that role IMO.

As an AM/SS he never cut it at that level.

I'd rather have Rooney off Defoe, Bent etc than Gerrard off Rooney.

Scholes' playmaking abilities improved with age, England missed out big time by not playing Scholes in the middle beyond 2003.

By the way Carrick is a DM, a pretty good one too.

nonsense

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I really do hope that Gerrard retires from England, so we would get another three or four years of him plating for us.
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i think it would be a good move for him and the club.

Scholes can't play in sunny climates due to his gingerness. Carrick is poor. That is all.

I don't really care anymore about what Gerrard has to offer England. Generally opposition fans lambast each others players so you can't really see the wood for the trees truthwise.

Where I do agree OP it Gerrards powers are on the wane, he's carried his team to many victories and he's made himself a legend at Anfield.

He still has plenty to offer and I think that would be best served by giving up England considering how many miles are on the clock.

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My personal opinion is that his all action performances are ideally suited to the PL
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A bit like Scholes and Carrick..

A few different points:

1. A lot of us have a pair of 'I hate Liverpool' glasses and we should try to take them off if we want to discuss this is a rational fashion. I'll try to do so myself.
2. There is a valid question about Gerrard's form and fitness. He has been out for a long time and I think it's fair to say his performance levels before his injury were not where they were around the time when the 'Rafalution' was looking threatening.
3. Nevertheless, in a country not exactly overflowing with talent he should be recognised as one of the best English players of his generation. On his day he can strike the ball very well, pass crisply, pull off technically difficult long passes, and do all of this with dynamism.
4. I've long been of the view that the qualities described above make him much more suited to playing in an attacking position than as a central midfielder with responsibilities for shielding the defence and patiently keeping possession. I don't think he is cut out to be a world class midfielder in modern football (unlike, say, in 1980s football where he could have been another Robson). But he did impress the world when playing in front of Alonso and Mascherano. He has also had some very effective games playing in wider positions in midfield.
5. Therefore, I think if Gerrard has a significant England future, it a) depends on returning to the form / fitness of old and b) being deployed somewhere in the front four in whatever formation is selected.
6. Let's not stupidly say he was always a rubbish player. He has some limitations and some big qualities. He hasn't shone that much for England, partly because England is a shambles, partly because national teams don't get to spend much time gelling and creating understandings.

Scholes' playmaking abilities improved with age, England missed out big time by not playing Scholes in the middle beyond 2003.
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I'm sure we'd be saying similar for Gerrard if he retired many years ago.

I think Gerrards problem at international level is that he has had to sacrifice his normal all-action attacking game to suit other players in the team, when people talk about Lampard and Gerrard not being able to play together that's what they're talking about, Gerrard having to sit back and hold because Lampard can't perform that role in midfield, at times when they both went forward England were left hopelessly exposed at the back due to a lack of protection.

Gerrard has also been asked to play left mid, right mid and just off the front man and let's not forget, he (like any other english player of the past 10-12 years) has had to play in some very, very average national teams, his international career mirrors Scholes's in my opinion.

Red russian

Red russian, Bruce

Sensible, rational posts that pretty much sum it up for me.