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comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 18/3/12

I think deep down we know that all or at least most clubs and supporters would react the same way, but it's still nice to show respect to them anyway.

posted on 18/3/12

Wondering if PL games will now get to be like F1, where they will have a cardio version of "Dr Sid" (the neurosurgeon) always at the event.

posted on 18/3/12

I fail to see the point. How can people have the cheek be annoyed by fans praising other fans in such a situation?

For all those who say any other fans would do the same (to which im sure they would of course)........was you there!?

Spare a thought for those like myself who were actually there. The praise we received gives a tiny tiny tiny bit of consolation that we tried to help in the only way we could.

As the majority of people all i care about is Muamba getting better. Not would liverpool/chelsea/etc fans do the same.

Fabrice Muamba....Fabrice Muamba....Fabrice Muamba.

posted on 18/3/12

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posted on 18/3/12

My point Wearethefamous is that often posters refer to decent football supporters of a certain club. Everybody proved that they were decent yesterday didn't they so what's the point of the "Decent"adjective? What do people mean when they say "Decent"supporters?.
Metro,I'm not just referring to yesterday's incident but continually on here people talk about decent supporters. I don't know why they single that word out as if to say that if one supports a certain team then that person is indecent. It's total twaddle.
Batmanu,so we are all surfers are we? I think I'll put you on the ignore list for good.

posted on 18/3/12

So many insensitive people out there.

If you had collapsed on the street, would 40,000 odd strangers stop, sing your name and worry about your well being? No they most probably wouldn't

Ofcourse the spurs crowd were there to watch the football match and the unfortunate incident occurred right in front of them, but their reaction has to be commended. Ignorance can spread so quickly, especially in an emotionally charged and tense atmosphere. Everyone quickly realised the gravity of the situation and started praying for/applauding Muamba. How can any sane human being criticise the positive remarks about spurs fans yesterday?

So, yes, the spurs fans were decent yesterday, even if they had little other choice. They showed humanity, which should always be commended.

posted on 18/3/12

Re the myth about the doctor not getting on the pitch, it's just that- a myth.

I sit in East Lower by the half way line and the guy came hurtling down the aisle and spoke to the stewards and then sprinted on. He received a round of applause and shouts of encouragement from all around us. He can't have been a club doctor as he was dressed like he was attending the game.

This is where forums and things like twitter fall down- its very easy to believe that noone went on to aid treatment if you read this thread. But I saw with my own eyes that it did happen. About 3-5 minutes into the incident.

posted on 18/3/12

What on earth got my comment deleted, Dawn? Are you that sensitive? You cannot be serious. Most people would probably find your article a lot more offensive than my comment which you deleted.

posted on 18/3/12

Cant work out whats motivated you to write this one Dawn?

posted on 18/3/12

Not many people in their lives get to see somebody collapse with something serious like a heart attack so naturally it would take time to register. Mostly when a player goes down on a football pitch he's up again a short time later. When Tommy Cooper collapsed on stage with a heart attack the audience thought it was part of the act so no medical man can be blamed for what might be conceived as a slow reaction.
Nobody is indecent because they support a certain club. I'd like to thank all you who support my thread and thank you to all the well wishers from other clubs. To those I deleted,nothing to say to you.

posted on 18/3/12

"This is where forums and things like twitter fall down"

Indeed.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story etc.
Which is why I asked (as I wasn't there) .

posted on 18/3/12

Do not get the timing of this article at all or the OP's point even with their 'clarification'. Seems misjudged and borderline offensive frankly.


posted on 18/3/12

"When Tommy Cooper collapsed on stage with a heart attack the audience thought it was part of the act so no medical man can be blamed for what might be conceived as a slow reaction."

As one of the millions who saw that, the alarm bells went up when you saw the arm coming thru the curtain to touch him while the ad music/caption was put on (the adults in my house kept saying "something is not right" - even though it would have been classic Tommy Cooper) .

posted on 18/3/12

There is nothing offensive about this article. The subject doesn't just refer to yesterday's incident. It's about idiots describing supporters as decent. What do Spurs supporters mean when they say "Typical Arsenal supporter?" What do other team's supporters mean when they say "Decent supporters" I've read posters on here spitting venom at posters just because they support a certain team. What's an indecent supporter as opposed to a decent supporter?

posted on 18/3/12

Ok mthierry,post it again.
Harry's,how is it offensive?

posted on 18/3/12

Dawn, I understand your comments about generalising supporters as 'decent' or 'indecent' but I genuinely don't understand how you are linking this to yesterday's tragic events?

People who are saying 'spurs fans acted in a decent manner' are not inferring that spurs fans are usually indecent. They are simply commending their commendable actions yesterday.

posted on 18/3/12

verminator,I'm not referring to the fans who praised Spurs for yesterday's behaviour. I'm referring to the years gone by when posters have referred to those who support certain clubs as decent. Why? Are people's characters being judged because of the team that they support?

posted on 18/3/12

Let me go back. Arsenal were playing Stoke one year and I posted to Arsenal to be careful because the year Arsenal won the double Stoke beat them 5-0. An Arsenal supporter came back"Good observation. A decent Spurs supporter at last" What did he mean by that? Is it because I'm a Butler that makes me decent? So what's an indecent Spurs supporter then or any other team come to that?

posted on 18/3/12

While I understand why you would question the need for the "decent adjective", personally I see nothing wrong with it. If I say "all the Spurs fans I have encountered have been decent", then the term is crucial to the point that I'm attempting to get across.

Likewise, the praise that Spurs fans are getting for yesterday deserves being mentioned. A previous comment on this thread - sorry I can't recall who said it - sums it up perfectly for me. It is praise offered to people who were in attendance at a game and thus is some consolidation towards what they experienced. Something that I personally would never want to witness, be it in a football stadium or walking down the street. Of course, the main focus of concern should be towards Muamba himself, but incidents like this do affect other people. And the dignified way in which Spurs fans (and of course the Bolton fans), is to be commended.

I didn't comment on this site last night. I wasn't at the game. I didn't even watch it on TV. But after reading many comments, in which this community here all pulled together, praised eachother, and all expressed compassion, sympathy, and empathy towards Muamba was incredibly moving to see. Even if we know deep down that we are all decent, that we all share a commonality - football - that when it comes to the game, we are all essentially the same, it does no harm in having this expressed every once in a while, even if it takes a sad and potentially tragic incident in order to do so.

posted on 18/3/12

Spot on Ripleys, made me proud to be a Spurs fan yesterday witnessing the reactions.

posted on 18/3/12

Yes Ripley's spot on. I posted yesterday and today that I'm proud of all connected with Spurs yesterday and I've thanked those who praised those who were there. But there's a lot of venom on this site spat at those who support other clubs and to us because we are Spurs supporters. Some have said that they "hate" Spurs. We are not decent because we support Spurs etc etc. If anybody is indecent at a match then they are indecent in their everyday lives away from football too and their character is not because of the club they support so I wish posters would stop saying decent supporters of clubs.

posted on 18/3/12

so I wish posters would stop saying decent supporters of clubs

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I would have thought that, given what you have said, you would wish that posters would stop saying "indecent" (or any other negative) supporters of clubs.

Why criticise those who say a positive about other supporters, to the extent that you call those the idiots?

posted on 18/3/12

What is the point of this article, other than to have an indirect pop at those fans of other clubs who have praised the fans of Spurs and Bolton, for the compassion they showed, during and following the immediate aftermath of yesterday's incident? Who the hell is saying that only Spurs and Bolton fans would have acted that way? No one, that's who. Everyone knows that any person with even a small degree of humanity in their bodies would have acted in the same way; but the fact remains that it was Spurs and Bolton fans who were there, and they are rightly being praised, by everyone, not just football fans, for the way they reacted. Indeed, there are many people who were previously anti-football who have been won over by the way that the entire football community - players, chairman, managers, and fans - have reacted.

Please, let's not try to turn this into a competition as to "who is the best set of fans" because that would be exceeding disrespectful to Fabrice, his family, and all of the many thousands of people who are willing his recovery.

posted on 18/3/12

No Ripley's that's NOT it. I praise the positivity of those who praised Spurs yesterday so that's out of the way. I've thanked them.
Many posters say "decent" about supporters as if it's something rare,something unusual at a certain football club which is complete rubbish. One or two even expressed surprise at the Spurs supporters' behaviour as if to say they expected something spiteful just because it's Spurs supporters. Do you see what I'm trying to say now?

posted on 18/3/12

White Hot,there is NO POP AT ANYONE CONNECTED WITH YESTERDAY. There is no competition,no disrespect to Fabrice. The only pop is at those who expressed surprise on this site that the Spurs supporters behaved in such a civil and respectful manner.

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