Not only arrogant - but totally wrong

*the good he once represented

I get your point Torres, but, you just knew there was a but comming there didn't you

Just because Orton sells more T shirts than DB, that dosn't mean people are more interested in his match vs Kane. Shemus is on such a push just now, that the people who cheer for who the E tells them to cheer for are really into him, and the people who still remember wrestling back when it was wrestling and apreciate grat wrestlers, wanna see DB (i am in this group).

For me Orton has run his course as a FACE and needs another heel turn. Also, I don't think Kane's return has been worked well. They keep bringing him back as a monstor heel, but to me, it just never feels believable.

This of course is just my opinion and not the views of JA606 site managment

It's not about which match has more appeal, the article stated which match is bigger. Kane and Orton are light years ahead of those two in promotional pull, one is still in his prime.

Orton ran his course as a face a LONG time ago, arguably shouldn't have gone face at all. The only time it worked was when he was riding a groundswell of momentum, in those first few months he was generating energy that Sheamus couldn't hope to touch. But without that support, he's just like every other babyface in the company - transparent and shallow (in that sense the OP was right).

Kane is just a walking booking disaster. Sooooo much potential in that character unfurfilled through the years. The ONLY time he's ever looked strong was that initial period after he unmasked, everything before and after then was done with a sense of trepidation, holding him back for his next job, etc.... and how they treated him after DOMINATING Taker in 2010 was outregous. Made Kane look foolish, Taker look weak and Edge look ridiclous all in one go lol

Ehh, maybe people would have looked forward to this match more when Orton was the psychotic heel character that made him such fun to watch and Kane was the big guy who could fly over the ropes like a man half his size (before age and injuries took his knees out) but right now this match just seems like a way to get them both on the card at some point.

Still, I'm looking forward to this more then Rock/Cena, I just can't summon any enthusiasm at all for that match (though I'm probably just about the only one).

Sheamus vs. Bryan (World Title)
Kane vs. Orton

or ......

Sheamus vs. Orton vs. Bryan (World Title)
Kane vs. Ryder w/Eve

Honesty people, which set up looks better? Mania has hosted four triple threat matches and three of them were show stealers + this gives Bryan extra cover to manipulate the match in his favour. And Kane squashing Ryder would keep him fresh for his next job, lets be frank lol

Honesty people, which set up looks better?

the one they currently have, orton would be awful in a triple threat. One of the best things about sheamus vs bryan is its somewhat fresh.

Also it's wrestlemania, no one wants to see a squash match at the biggest pay per view of the year!!!!!!!

I'd go with the 2nd.

Simply because I think DB should keep the strap and a tripple threat is the best way for that to happen to keep his & shemus's push going, with Orton turning. Future match:Shemus Vs Orton.

The ZR Vs Kane match......this would be the moment i went outside for a smoke to be honest, and i usually leave this for the diva matchs.

Sir Digby

Interesting, are you suggesting Kane/Orton won't be a squash match? When i say squash i don't mean outright domination, i mean the winners completely pre-determined. You can bet your life Orton's gunna run through Kane within 6/7 minutes, nothing but killing air time that match ...... Orton's track record in triple threats is fantastic, they've always been great matches minus his WM26 one (which was basically a handicap match).

New doesn't automatically equal fresh, if Rock/Cena and HHH/Taker wasn't on this card, i GUARANTEE you Orton would've been placed in that match. Sheamus/Bryan may have their merits (i don't see Sheamus's appeal personally, but thousands seem to disagree with me), but they've never performed in front of 70,000 people before. With them placed 4th from top it releases the pressure, but without that safety net Orton would've been installed as the ring general - guanrantee you that.

Broxy

I would've aswell tbh, on Kane/Ryder, but it furfills creative purpose unlike Kane/Orton which serves no purpose.

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Yup, the Orton Vs Kane match is a filler match, nothing more, nothing less. They've hardly put any time into this what so ever.