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cheeky monkey..spanish t**t......

the love of god .....is this what clattenburg is being done for????

ok i can accept the cheeky monkey thing possibly being offensive ..fair enough but spanish t**t .......maybe mata is a t**t

i have played sports and way WAY worse was said ...but it was just left there on the pitch and id have a pint with the same lads after the game ..both gaa and soccer .....

i dont believe for one minute he meant this in a proper racist way .......(but i understand if mikel got upset by it ..fair enough)

posted on 30/10/12

@ chicken, or maybe he was fighting his innocense, because he didn't say the things Evra accused him of.

Let's see, Suarez admitted to saying something that translated to: Why Black(ie), a term that could be used friendly, neutral, or negative.
Evra claimed Suarez said things like: I kicked you because you are bl"ck & I don't talk to bl@cks.

A big difference, wouldn;t you say.

But I am still baffled that Suarez was banned solely on Evra's testimoney of the full Spanish conversation. Especially since Evra's knowledge and understanding of Spanish seemed to be doubtful to say the least:

a) He thought that the Spanish phrase he said to Suarez meant something like bl@@dy h£ll instead of your sister's p^sssy.

b) He thought n@gro translated to n%gger instead of black.

To get the translation of these two fundamental issues to the whole case so wrong, makes it for me completely ridiculous to use anymore of his testimony about the conversation in Spanish as "proof" against Suarez.

posted on 30/10/12

And how many times do refs get told to eff off and called wan kers by so called proffessionals?

Deffo opportunist to take away the sting of terrygate!

Or just playing the victim card????? Oh know thats us is'nt it??

posted on 30/10/12

There are some who call me,

Suarez & Evra were delibrately trying to have a go at eachother in that game, so if Suarez used a word referring to Evra's race amongst all that, then it wasn't in a friendly way, was it?

Just like, if one of my mates says a poor joke, i'll laugh & say "you di-ckhead" but thats different to having an argument with an enemy & shouting out "Oi di-ickhead".

Clearly one scenario is acceptable - the other isn't.

Surely anyone can see the difference here. I dont care that one is Spanish speaking & the other French, i couldnt care if one was Irish & the other from Timbuktu, in my opinion (& clearly the panel's too) he purposely used language that was offensive to another. Hence the ban.

I cannot for the life of me imagine that anyone would racially abuse someone by calling them a "cheeky monkey" & i bet if you have any black friends, and you told them that the first thing that came into your head after the saying "cheeky monkey" or just "monkey" was a black person, i think they would tell you whatfor.

The fact that anyone puts "cheeky monkey" & black people in the same category is racist in itself. I wouldnt have even put 2 & 2 together if i was standing next to them at a bus stop.

Stop being ridiculous.

posted on 30/10/12

^
And this is proof of how namby pamby the world has gone.
Best not saying anything anymore to each other as at some point we're all going to be offended.

If he'd called a white man a cheeky monkey(and there are white monkeys as well as black/brown/orange/etc,the last thing i'd be thinking is "you racist fecker"


posted on 30/10/12

Transalpinotrails,

Exactly.



When i walked in this morning someone said "you look pale".

Should i be taking offence at this type of comment?

Shall i report them to HR or not?

posted on 30/10/12

And this is proof of how namby pamby the world has gone.
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Although you are 100% correct, be prepared to shouted down by the leftist linen suit wearing liberals here.

posted on 30/10/12

Be shouted down^^

posted on 30/10/12

I think i've just seen a ghost......Oops i mean i have just seen the faint outline of a fellow human being who has probably been dead for years.

posted on 30/10/12

Agreed it's absolutely ridiculous. The feeding frenzy of the media and the FA's anti racism agenda fuelled by the FA's annoyance at FIFA has opened this putrid can of worms.

They are reaping what they themselves have sowed.

Massive steps have been made in combating racism in football in this country, but appears that all this has been forgotten as the tabloids prepare for another field day and the game once again is dragged through the mud.

posted on 30/10/12

Interested to know if Evra used the term 'sudaca', which is Spanish is a derisive form of reference to South Americans, because the translation it's rendered simply as "South American", which is completely neutral and doesn't convey the offensive nuance the word has in Spanish. It makes no sense in Spanish for Evra to have used "sudamericano".

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