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Dean Hoyle to sell ?

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who knows

comment by 38YEARS (U5913)

posted on 1/4/13

its not a going concern..its held up by loans...
he is taking money back and investing it in projects associated with the club that will eventually give him more to sell, but at this moment we are a loss making enterprise...
because we wasted so much money getting to where we are the "ambition" of being debt free is probably the overpowering reason as to why we took near on 12 million quid in transfer fees and haven't spent it or a decent part of it..
being debt free has never won a football match..
we have "built" what appears to be a smashing family club but a 3rd division team.. I personally think that's the wrong way round...
families wont come to watch a very poor team, however you discount the costs..

posted on 1/4/13

Certainly is the wrong way round,,, We should not be paying daft wages when we only have crowds of (proper) 8-9k,,,,,,,, When he does go can he please take the three stooges with him,,,,, Cos i aint been impressed with any of em,,,,, Lots of waffle and little in the way of results,,, Crowds have dropped !! Gate prices too high, Lack of choice in where to sit,,,, tbh 38 i aint missed the last few games one bit,,, The extra money in my pocket has been more than welcome.

comment by 38YEARS (U5913)

posted on 1/4/13

watching hull on tv was very depressing..
we cant even work up enough steam to put a team playing poorly and well beneath its best under any sort of sustained pressure..
poor pitch to me means get it forward, support it and pressurise as much and as often as you can..
we ended up playing loads of passes to nowhere until it bobbled or our touch was p-ss poor..
you need runners and chasers and players who will hurry the other team and we didn't have any, other than Vaughan/danns and occasionally Dixon..
You have to be brave and forget the surface or where we are in the league... we just haven't got enough brave players or someone to give them the right motivation on or off the field..
best off running towards their goal and losing it rather than tippy taps across the halfway line and losing it going sideways or backwards..
get it forward, support the ball and fight like f-ck to stop them getting out....only way for me..

posted on 2/4/13

38 Years

Why let the facts get in the way of prejudice?

I agree with many of your comments - your thoughst on policing being one recent example.

Your understanding of the club's financial position and Dean Hoyle's loan account is an area where your posting is just not borne out by the published information in the public domain.

Each year since his involvement Hoyle has put additional money into the club.

The accounts for the current season will include the Rhodes transfer on which the club has made a profit. Whether an overall profit is recorded for the season will depend on how much the club has lost on the difference between its income and wage bill.

There is a difference between profit and cashflow though. If Blackburn are paying £2m a year for 4 years then the payment received this season is unlikely to bridge other income and outgoings. That will mean more money will need to be introduced by Hoyle so the club can pay its bills.

The expenditure at Canalside has negligible intrinsic value - Leeds Road is hardly prime real estate! It is an attempt to give the club a competitive advantage in the future. There will be fewer academies with the changed criteria so remaining among them should lead to a higher quality of graduating player for the playing and financial benefit of the club.

You may not agree with how it has been spent (blame Grayson) but more money will have been spent on players this season than last - that is hardly the sign of someone backing out. Disagreeing with the various on and off field decisions that have been made this season is no evidence that he is. Repeating your assertions won't make them right if they're not. Until I see factual evidence that he is scaling down his involvement I'm prepared to believe he is continuing to act in what he perceives to be the best interests of the club.

comment by Jacko ~ (U4503)

posted on 2/4/13

'course he isn't backing out...it's a long haul, with ups and downs along the way, but success will surely come....one bright and sunny day....

comment by 38YEARS (U5913)

posted on 2/4/13

Berkshire..
the "long term" goals in themselves are highly laudible..
unfortunately the "short term" goal was , if not ignored, then left to hope/chance..
Lee Clark and Grayson did not bring in all these players and they did not pay "too much" in the first division and then too little in the championship..
Managers cannot bring in players and pay wages, they can make requests to chairmen/boards...
The simple fact is that sheff utd are losing money hand over fist with bigger gates than us and a near total revamp of their squad, including transfer fees..
Their is little hope of us doing anything otherwise than the same should we drop back down... We will still have players on good wages under contract, that we cannot shift on and the income will drop alarmingly..
The club failed to invest fully after Wembley and then failed in January to arrest the slide..
The "product" that Huddersfield town offer is "a football team" all the other business related to it are sidelines.. This does seem to have been forgotten/ignored for a while.. The long term approach to be debt free is clearly sensible but success(in our case this season being upper mid table and teams being worried about coming to us) would surely for dean have been affordable in the short term???
The aim must be to add 3/4 thousand onto the home crowds and to not just scrape survival year on year, surely????
Giving away tickets whilst playing football of a pub league standard isn't the way to go...We have raised the profile with good causes and a promotion and a long unbeaten run and have then allowed all that to fade away.. Watch the football programmes or read about the championship, we rarely get a mention unless its about our goals conceded, hardly a success, hardly moving on is it???

comment by 38YEARS (U5913)

posted on 2/4/13

btw.. I have nothing against dean hoyle.. I wouldn't spend a penny of my fortune(if I had one) on a football club.. the club is fine its the lazy, half ars-d , f-ckwits masquerading as professional footballers that would put me off.. Add to that managers who cant win a game without;;
a. blaming the ref/linos
b. blaming injuries(most of which are embarrassingly minor)
c. luck???
d. lack of investment, at clubs where the wages are stupidly high to start with and the football is woefull...
dean has had a steep learning curve and has to now manfully(imo) not punched quite a few of our "players" in the face, I certainly would have...

posted on 2/4/13

No real disagreement with these recent comments 38. It just peeves me to read the previous ones suggesting Hoyle is trying to extricate himself from the club when all the evidence suggests the opposite.

Grayson may not have signed the players / negotiated the contracts but the players brought in would have been his recommendations - his choice to blow the budget on Beckford, Norwood, Clayton, Southern and Scannell.

comment by 38YEARS (U5913)

posted on 2/4/13

Dean is a lifelong footie fan.. he should know what he is buying..
I and lots of others wouldn't have touched beckford with a barge pole..
scannell had and still has a great deal of promise..
Southern does what is says on the tin, he has a proper injury, that happens..he also has a good injury record..
clayton can play, we know we have seen it.. he just has that "couldn't give a toss attitude" sometimes, which means he plays poorly and does stupid stuff..
Gobern looks like a player on occasions but not often enough..
There had to be a better option than beckford/church??
Gerard was a knee jerk signing, but lynch is the one that's annoyed me.. He always looked a player against us and when playing for forest, now he looks totally lost.. maybe I have already pointed out why???
We have allowed one man to dictate on the field tactics for too long, through the unbeaten run he was the catalyst for the shocking draws and he is now the main reason for heavy defeats and playing sideways and backwards and too deep..
Some might say that it cant be just down to one man and clearly its not but he begins the retreat and his influence in the negative is very strongly associated with all the bad things the other 10 around him do...

comment by Jacko ~ (U4503)

posted on 3/4/13

Ah, that PC moment...

Whatever happened to PC World ?

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