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Where Were You?

Good MEN article:

It's inevitable, I suppose. Human nature dictates that in a row you always go for someone’s weak point. But what do you do when, say, you’re a fan of a team playing City and you cannot find one?

You can’t start chanting about how useless they are, the keeper’s not dodgy (anymore) and the manager’s not getting sacked in the morning.

So what do you do?

It would appear that you come up with some nonsense that ignores the facts.

I’ve heard it from supporters of several clubs, including Newcastle United and most recently Blackburn Rovers.

“Where were you when you were ****?" they accuse.

It is not a new chant and in many cases it is justified. Nobody (outside a commercial department) likes a glory hunter. But it is not justified when aimed at supporters of City – especially from those two.

I am presuming that the accepted definition of when the Blues were **** is pretty much pre-Abu Dhabi.

So let’s look at the attendance figures, as they can be the only barometer.

Sheikh Mansour arrived in 2008 at a time when City were averaging 42,126.

This season that average stands at 47,803. That is a whopping rise of less than 6,000.

If we go back further, to when they were REALLY **** in the third tier, the Maine Road average was 28,261. It’s a difference, yes, but it hardly represents a mass exodus – especially when you look at the figures.

So what of the Geordies?

It is the old cliche, isn’t it? Football mad up there. Go through Newcastle city centre and you’ll think you’ve gone back in time because everything is in black and white. Everybody marches to the beat of the Toon.

Not in 1990-91 they didn’t. Then in the old Division Two, the Magpies ‘boasted’ an average of 16,834. Bit of a difference from this season’s 50,360.

Interestingly that 1990-91 campaign was the one which saw Jack Walker complete his takeover of Blackburn Rovers. The average that year at Ewood Park? 8,126. Eight thousand, one hundred and twenty six.

Not to worry, five years later (Premier League title and broken transfer records under their belts) it had risen to 27,552. Now my maths ain’t great, but to me that’s more than three times as many thanks to an owner whose spending propelled the club to new heights.

Rovers are now back where they were when Uncle Jack came along with his millions.

The attendance for their last home match? 13,594. Less than half that Premier League high.

So hurl your insults at City, it is football after all. Tell them they are ruining football (they’re not), or that they’re a **** club with money (as opposed to your **** club without money).

But before you question the loyalty of their fans you might want to take a look at your own side first.

posted on 24/1/14

I remember very well new castles attendances doubling overnight to about 30k when Keegan went there the first time

Does my head in when people say the Geordies are the most loyal supporters. They were getting crowds of 14k for some games pre Keegan

Mancs from both clubs are far more loyal

comment by $ka (U3522)

posted on 24/1/14

Mancs from both clubs are far more loyal

In fairness, there are more of them.

comment by Damo69 (U1004)

posted on 25/1/14

Smokey the most sensible post i've seen for many a year on here

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 25/1/14

Smokey good post mate.

posted on 25/1/14

Good article.

posted on 25/1/14

Great article. As a chelsea season ticket holder We get this most weeks which is quite funny from most teams because even when we were sh!!!t we were pulling in greater crowds then those teams.
Even in the lower divisions we took the highest attendances to away games and also hold the highest attendance in english football I believe in the 30s with an arsenal game. Something around 80,000. Also(before my time) chelsea fans took over the whole clock end and more of highbury when kerry dixon scored and other such examples.
We had a lull for a short time when the stands were being knocked down and put back up but mostly even in lower divisions chelsea have got fantastic support. I think we are 4th for all time average attendance in england.

posted on 25/1/14

this is a damning article.

i hate it when people mention how big newcastle are and what great fans they have.

newcastle are not a big club. they are in a one club city and have a big ground and currently get big attendances.

they have not won any kind of trophy since when? 30 years? 40 years?

they have never made any kind of significant dent into the european scene, and outside of newcastle and the media, most people don't really consider newcastle a big club

posted on 26/1/14

comment by bomdia (U13941)

posted 1 day, 15 hours ago

For Comedy value, RGK, who likes to tell us how ^^^^ we are has been busy telling Spurs fans that we are much too get for them, stronger in every department and will rip them apart like we did Arsenal! True, but not what he tells us.

Can you post a link where I have said this or will you admit you just typed a barefaced lie


Tottenham isnt a big club either.

posted on 26/1/14


Also chronic at least we've challenged for the pl more top 4 finishes than you

posted on 26/1/14

Although really who even cares you don't support a team because they're 'big'. Well not proper fans.

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