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Trust Wenger To Get What We Don't Need

This summer. We tried and dismissed Milner (fair enough he was free), we're supposedly looking at Vidal or some kind of CM that can maybe operate deeper.

Why didn't Arsene search for a DM when we actually needed one? Will be livid if we spend a vast amount in that position when Coquelin is title-challenging worthy, he just needs a competent backup.

Wenger never ruled out the Sterling interest either, again a player we don't need and someone who realistically shouldn't make our strongest XI

We clearly need 1 CF + 1 CB + 1 backup DM with a GK being a bonus.

I'll be livid if we end up spending loads on a winger or central midfielder. It will have us famously being "2 or 3 players short of challenging" yet again.

Sort the spine out ffs and let's go!

posted on 4/6/15

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by WengersBodyguard2 (U8276)
posted 47 seconds ago
Now imagine an elite CF that's quick like Theo but also clinical.
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So why have you mentioned most of the names you have when none of them are that. Have you actually just forgotten how fast Theo is? Is there even a striker out there who can fit that bill before Walcott scores 30 and "Officially" fits it himself. I confess I don't watch much football other than Arsenal games but exactly what elite CF comes anywhere near Walcott's pace? Because there's nobody you've mentioned that he wouldn't decimate in a foot race.

And this is what bugs me about you harping about this CF. You already know that the player whom fits your above-mentioned description either doesn't exist unless Theo becomes him. Or is totally unobtainable for Arsenal short of Real and Barca going bankrupt and having to sell all their stars off cheap.
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Do you faith in Welbeck backing up Theo? I am not sure. I think we need another younger player as well to bridge to Akpom.
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We have Giroud, Theo and Welbeck....and can change position (Theo and Welbeck)

I prefer to have players all around that can score. We shouldnt be relying on one player. That makes us less predictable.
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Well that misses the point doesn't it. Giroud plays in a different style to Theo and Welbeck. What do you want Wenger to do. Drop Ozil and Santi as well, revert to a 4-4-2 so we can deliver crosses so that Giroud can be effective. I remember you suggesting that a while ago assuming that will happen when Wenger went in for Suarez.

Giroud went through a great run of games where he couldn't stop scoring. However in all those games, Ozil and Alexis were very ineffective. In fact Alexis looked very poor since Welbeck was dropped from the CF position, only to discover his form the last two games! There is a reason for that.

posted on 4/6/15

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by WengersBodyguard2 (U8276)
posted 47 seconds ago
Now imagine an elite CF that's quick like Theo but also clinical.
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So why have you mentioned most of the names you have when none of them are that. Have you actually just forgotten how fast Theo is? Is there even a striker out there who can fit that bill before Walcott scores 30 and "Officially" fits it himself. I confess I don't watch much football other than Arsenal games but exactly what elite CF comes anywhere near Walcott's pace? Because there's nobody you've mentioned that he wouldn't decimate in a foot race.

And this is what bugs me about you harping about this CF. You already know that the player whom fits your above-mentioned description either doesn't exist unless Theo becomes him. Or is totally unobtainable for Arsenal short of Real and Barca going bankrupt and having to sell all their stars off cheap.
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Do you faith in Welbeck backing up Theo? I am not sure. I think we need another younger player as well to bridge to Akpom.
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We have Giroud, Theo and Welbeck....and can change position (Theo and Welbeck)

I prefer to have players all around that can score. We shouldnt be relying on one player. That makes us less predictable.
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Well that misses the point doesn't it. Giroud plays in a different style to Theo and Welbeck. What do you want Wenger to do. Drop Ozil and Santi as well, revert to a 4-4-2 so we can deliver crosses so that Giroud can be effective. I remember you suggesting that a while ago assuming that will happen when Wenger went in for Suarez.

Giroud went through a great run of games where he couldn't stop scoring. However in all those games, Ozil and Alexis were very ineffective. In fact Alexis looked very poor since Welbeck was dropped from the CF position, only to discover his form the last two games! There is a reason for that.
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J99 again

Giroud can't and won't play any single game. And I dont want him, too.

Why do you keep saying I want him to play every single game? It's not the case. If he is on a run and performs well...yes he needs to prefered. If he drops form he needs to be benched. Simple as that.

What I really do like is in him we have a complete different style of play and able to change tactics as well he also can adpat to our and obviously your prefered style of play. I am very happy about that. Nothing more and nothing less.

posted on 4/6/15

Giroud went through a great run of games where he couldn't stop scoring. However in all those games, Ozil and Alexis were very ineffective. In fact Alexis looked very poor since Welbeck was dropped from the CF position, only to discover his form the last two games! There is a reason for that.
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Btw good point!

posted on 4/6/15

Jenius


Exactly. Alexis is effective where he can interchange with the front man and the team are better as a whole.

Giroud is too static and negatively stiffens our attack where we lack fluidity which makes us easy to defend against.

Giroud is certainly not worth changing our style for and restricting our top players for

We need a CF that suits our very best players and all together our philosophy Theo could be that guy and I hope he is but I'm unsure if Wenger will trust him.

Even if Theo got off to a flyer next season I could see Wenger suddenly pushing him to the right just to unjustifiably bring in Giroud.

posted on 4/6/15

What I really do like is in him we have a complete different style of play and able to change tactics as well he also can adpat to our and obviously your prefered style of play. I am very happy about that. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Don't you see the problem with that? Let me explain the process.

Philosophy------> Strategy ---------> Tactics ------------> Execution.

Wenger has a philosophy to play a certain way. So he creates a strategy to do it. He buys players, creates plans, hires the correct coaches who create the training plan. They have pre-season where they play a certain way and they repeat again and again during the season so they can perfect it. And then for each game Wenger creates tactics so that the opposition cannot defeat his plan.

Wenger sold RVP, a focal striker, but with great sharp movements and replaced him Giroud. A player of similar style. But unlike RVP, who was a winger, not as technical, or sharp or competent in taking chances. It hasn't worked. We haven't challenged for the big trophies. So Wenger started buying players like Ozil. Who thrive on off the ball running and space created from movement. He then bought Alexis. Who again loves dribbling and thrives on someone creating space for him (at Udinese). Alexis, Ozil love playing behind sharp strikers who do all the off the ball running for them. Alexis dribbles on the ball and Ozil has great passes. Maybe it was Wenger's plan to play Theo with Alexis/Ozil all along. Thats why he made comments like Theo is 30 goal striker and we didn't take his words seriously.

What I don't understand is that if we need to rest Theo. Don't we need someone to come in who can fit with the rest of what we are trying to do? Or do we go back to Giroud, where the system doesn't work. This is what I don't understand when ppl go on abt plan B. What does it even mean when you are trying to play certain way (and get better from the start of the season?)

posted on 4/6/15

Wenger sold RVP, a focal striker, but with great sharp movements and replaced him Giroud. A player of similar style. But unlike RVP, who was a winger, not as technical, or sharp or competent in taking chances. It hasn't worked. We haven't challenged for the big trophies.
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Firstly we had to sell RVP.

Secondly we didnt challenge with RVP for the big titles as well.

And why do you keep saying that with Giroud upfront we fail to play our system?

Theo wasnt at 100% coming from his serious knee injury. That is the reason why Wenger not starting him.

posted on 4/6/15

What I don't understand is that if we need to rest Theo. Don't we need someone to come in who can fit with the rest of what we are trying to do? Or do we go back to Giroud, where the system doesn't work.
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There's a wider problem here, with injuries. If we can't expect Ramsey, Wilshere, Theo, Gibbs and Ox to be fit for a whole season then how do we deal with that, it's not like you can buy players of equivalent quality who are happy to sit on the bench when they're fit.

Without a doubt Giroud is the weak link in our team though, still good, but not quite good enough for first-choice in a title winning team. Fine if Theo steps up, until he gets injured again and we finish 3rd/4th again.

posted on 4/6/15

comment by Arsene Wengooner (U6031)
posted 13 minutes ago
What I don't understand is that if we need to rest Theo. Don't we need someone to come in who can fit with the rest of what we are trying to do? Or do we go back to Giroud, where the system doesn't work.
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There's a wider problem here, with injuries. If we can't expect Ramsey, Wilshere, Theo, Gibbs and Ox to be fit for a whole season then how do we deal with that, it's not like you can buy players of equivalent quality who are happy to sit on the bench when they're fit.

Without a doubt Giroud is the weak link in our team though, still good, but not quite good enough for first-choice in a title winning team. Fine if Theo steps up, until he gets injured again and we finish 3rd/4th again.
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still managed to score some goals allthough being injured and suspened for 4 months.

posted on 4/6/15

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago

Giroud went through a great run of games where he couldn't stop scoring. However in all those games, Ozil and Alexis were very ineffective. In fact Alexis looked very poor since Welbeck was dropped from the CF position, only to discover his form the last two games! There is a reason for that.
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We won all those games, just sayin...

comment by TUX (U5315)

posted on 4/6/15

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 7 hours, 35 minutes ago
Milner > coqalick
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Jedinak > Coquelin

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/premier-league/crystal-palace-skipper-mile-jedinak-named-fifth-best-epl-player-in-2014-2015/story-e6frf4a3-1227383034740

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