Is it really possible for one manager, to single handedly take a group of 'championship standard journeymen' to the premier league title in the space of one season?
That's what the likes of Jamie Carragher (whose punditry is getting worse by the day) would have us all believe. But it's nonsense. This isn't about discredit the fantastic work Ranieri did in the title winning season, but no manager in the world, not SAF, not Mourinho, not Conte - could feasibly take a bang average group of players to the PL title in a single season.
No wonder so much of the footballing world are raging about our decision to sack Tanieri if they've actually convinced themselves that the title was his work alone. If it was, it would naturally make him the greatest manager the world has ever seen, better than shankley, paisley, Ferguson and clough. If he is of that standard - why hasn't he achieved anything of note in his 30 year career
So perhaps there's more to the success of our PL winning season than the likes of Wahl would have us believe. Again, that's not to discredit Ranieri, a super guy who was the right manager at the right time. He walked into a club built on solid foundations, managed by someone in Pearson who arguably wasn't good enough himself to get the best out of the squad itself
Before Ranieri arrived, Steve Walsh signed Fuchs and Okazaki. Two instrumental players that would add considerable quality to a squad that won 9 out of the last 11 games of the previous season. Then there was Kante. Another Walsh gem, a player already in negotiations with Leicester before Ranieris arrival. A player Ranieri said himself he didn't want
To credit Ranieri massively, he understood that a basic 4-4-2 system,
Playing aggressive counter-attacking football was the way to go. That wasn't a new philosophy at the club, that was our style, but he got the best out of the likes of Mahrez and Vardy and Kante was on hand to protect the back 4
His huge mistake as the media are now starting to come round to, was to scrap a winning formula. As has happened in his career so many times before, he starts tinkering and meddiling, he starts to implement his own philosophy and it facks up. No big betrayal. No backstabbing, simply players played out of position and with tactics completely unsuitable for the squad we have
Let's think about this for a second
posted on 13/3/17
How good was Ken Way? Well the players had the bottle to stay up and win the league so he must have been doing something right. There's not been an issue with our mentality until this season, what a coincidence.
So its Ken way what won it now i have heard everything
posted on 13/3/17
comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 8 minutes ago
How good was Ken Way? Well the players had the bottle to stay up and win the league so he must have been doing something right. There's not been an issue with our mentality until this season, what a coincidence.
So its Ken way what won it now i have heard everything
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You do know what a psychologist does yeah? If you can argue that the players weren't always mentally prepared then you go ahead and kid yourself. This season we haven't been mentally prepared, I wonder why? What's changed?!
posted on 13/3/17
Nev's speaking in hyperbole a bit there, but what's changed is the situation. I think the very action of winning the league and not knowing how or what to think about it created a massively different psychological challenge to last season, and that's where I agree a sports psychologist should have been around to come in useful. (Although I still think players could have found their own as an alternative.) The players didn't get the chance to think at the start of this season, it was back in, back to work (!) and off around the globe to that terrible champions cup. At no point did they really get much time to reflect, to come down from what happened naturally - even by July they still would have been buzzing at the memory and not moved on. At the start of last season, they were completely ready to go again and see what they could do in the league now they'd got some grip on it.
The Jimmy Glass moment comes to mind, where for years afterwards he couldn't properly get his head around what had happened and ended up getting quite depressed over the confusion. I remember him saying that he only truly understood it a decade or more later - he was working as a taxi driver by then and asked a friend whether he was a "great" for what had happened. His friend told him that of course he wasn't, but what he had done was great.
It took Jimmy Glass over 10 years to get his head around scoring a last minute goal as a keeper. These guys had to get their heads around winning the league as a 5,000-1 shot when the most they were probably aiming for at the start of the season was a top half finish. Coming back for "next season" from that was always going to be difficult. Unfortunately Ranieri made too many mistakes and wasn't in a position to recover once they were finally ready to move on.
posted on 13/3/17
My son's in his final year at Nottingham doing a degree in it so i have a limited knoweldge.
But you elevating this mans role out of all proportion the rest of the coaching staff are involved with the mental preparation of the team. If the assistant manager or coach think a players suffering or the player needs to see someone i am sure it would of been arranged.
Pointless argument lets see if Shakey feels the need to rush out and re appoint him then we will know its ken what won it
posted on 13/3/17
comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 22 minutes ago
My son's in his final year at Nottingham doing a degree in it so i have a limited knoweldge.
But you elevating this mans role out of all proportion the rest of the coaching staff are involved with the mental preparation of the team. If the assistant manager or coach think a players suffering or the player needs to see someone i am sure it would of been arranged.
Pointless argument lets see if Shakey feels the need to rush out and re appoint him then we will know its ken what won it
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Way that won it? Nev why do you come out with such ridiculous comments?
He's a sports psychologist and would have helped the players mentally and the fact that we maintained our belief and ability to perform under pressure showed we were mentally sound. That's the benefit of a sports psychologist, that's what they're there for. Do you really think it was a good idea to get rid of him knowing they were likely to struggle this season? Of course it wasn't, that was just CR thinking he knows about mental health better than anyone else. This coming from an old relic who clearly hasn't moved with the times if he doesn't get the benefit of a psychologist. Just because he didn't believe in them doesn't mean he should take the option away from everyone else. Surely you don't think that's ok?
posted on 13/3/17
Interesting Dung one of the highest suicide rates is former Cricketers. Look at Baistows poor dad.
posted on 13/3/17
Its a joke CoE that shows the ludicrousness of how important you think he was again if he is CS will have already got him back at the club
posted on 13/3/17
Cricket, and test cricket in particular, is such a pressured game. Even more so than football because it's an individual game played in a team setting. That it's difficult to deal with mentally comes as little surprise.
I reckon I'd enjoy a psychology course these days.
posted on 13/3/17
Dung ironically that's wheat my son wants to do after his decree.
Sports science methods of the past of Fergie,Clough, Shank's MoN would not work on these pampered snowflakes the fear of the manager has passed they know they have the power now.
posted on 13/3/17
comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 6 hours, 45 minutes ago
Its a joke CoE that shows the ludicrousness of how important you think he was again if he is CS will have already got him back at the club
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It's ludicrous that you can't see the difference
this season from a group of players that had unbelievable belief to ones that well don't
and have struggled mentally. But whatever if you can't see it then fine, no point discussing it any further.
CR was amazing and he's a football genius, all hail CR and ignore everyone else who made him a success here where he's failed almost everywhere else. But yeah genius CR, it was all him.