O'Conner

Lets hope he learns from his mistakes and cleans up his act.

I cant say what its like to be high on those drugs, from what i have seen and people said, well i get a high on just beer in fact you dont even need beer to make yourself feel good.

Anyway i think Coke taking is more common than people think and would not be suprised if more Footballers, Celebs even Police take it from time to time than they would want to let on.

One of the worse culprits is smoking, its usually the first drug a person takes and once you get addicted to that, then it makes the chances of a person getting adticted and trying other stuff greater.

Dont beleave me, look at every one you have know who has taken drugs, suffered drug addiction, or indeed Booze or any other addictions and look at those who do not have any problems, those who can have a few beers once a while and have no dependency on Booze.

Now look how many have either smoked or had done in past compared to those who have never ever smoked and you will find the none/never smokers have no or less addiction problems.

The KiD

And yes MJ its a million times worse than doing your bro's sister. That is two consenting adults.


----


This is matter of opinion. I know personally i'd much rather my brother doing a few lines than shafting my misses.
I think the main problem people have with this is not he fact he took the drugs, but the fact that it was all kept a big secret and the clubs O'Conner moves to didn't know he served a ban. On one hand O'Conner did the crime so he must face the conciseness on the other what good comes from freezing him out the game completely?

Banjo. I agree with almost everything in your last two posts except the smokers are more likely to trying other stuff. I smoked for 30 something years and packed up about 4 years ago. I found giving up far easier than I thought it would be but not everyone is like that.
I don't know why people go down the drug road tbh, and because I've never tried it I can't say how easy it is to become attached.
I still don't agree with the softly softly approach, any drug unless prescribed by a doctor or able to buy from a chemist or shop is an illegal drug. (not including Banjo mushrooms) They are banned for a reason and people die from it.
I can't see how it can be defended.

"Forgot to add.
Using injuries and being knocked back justifies usage of Coke?
What sort of message does that send to the kids?"
------------------

He got banned and presumably fined to the hills. Just because we didn't initially tell anyone doesn't mean he didn't get punished.

Football is the only sport where they test for recreational drugs. It is not part of the WADA code of conduct to test for recreational drugs.

The reason the football authorities have chosen to do this is to help players that get addicted to drugs.

If the club had come out and named O'Connor then his name would have been all over the media and this would not have helped his recovery and he may never of turned his life around.

I don't know if O'Connor has turned his life around he may still be using but part of the ban is that he is tested more regularly than other footballers and it would be hard for him to keep using with all these checks.

I lost someone very close because of Coke and I'm being over sensitive.
O'Connor could easily sniff anything up his nose from insecticides to bleach. I liked him as a player and thought he had so much more to offer but his reputation will always be tarnished.

I was not saying all Smokers are Druggies

I am saying that once someone gets addicted to Nicotine, its increases their chances of being dependant on other substances inc Booze.

Smoking is very addictive and is harder to give up than a lot of Drugs, some people can give up Smoking easy and these people would also find giving up other addictions more easy than those who cant kick the habbit.

For me i can come clean on my Drug use, i have not taken anything in over 10 years.

I had between 19-20 done Speed about 3-4 times all it made me do was have more energy, not feel tired or get to sleep and made me Talk even more than i usually do (and thats a lot) the next day i feel a bit run down and have dry throat.
But i feel the same if i go more than a day with no sleep via other means i.e all night drinking coffee after coffee.

I had taken Acid 2 times, both was pants only made me have the giggles thats all.


The only other drug i have done is Mushrooms about what 5 times, and these had a good effect i.e gave me something that you could not get without them. Like seeing stuff etc.

So i see no point in taking other drugs, because i can give my self a buzz, feel great, alive in good mood and happy and full of life/love simply by being around good company in a place with good atmosphere and

A natural buzz/kick just as like when Martins scored that 2nd Goal and then after the Full Time wistle blew and we knew we Won the Cup.

That was a high and i can get to feel like that often without having to take drugs..... sometimes i do feel as low as hell and depressed, really depressed but i dont take any pills or see Doctor i just get on with it as there are always days when i feel great.

Joys and Sorrows and all.

The KiD

Sorry to hear that Royal Blue Cockney.

I guess with anything it depends with moderation and sometimes you also dont know the rubbish they mix with the drugs.


Like when you buy the doggy cigs and Vodka you dont know whats mixed with them, i knew someone who died off 2 bottles of Vodka and was said if it had been propper Vodka like a bottle brought from ASDA they would have lived. Something about other chemicals such as De ICER/Anti Freeze etc.

I do know a few people who only do Wacky Baki, and every once in a while Coke on special occations such as like when some take a Cigar once in a while.


Thats there choice, there risk.

I drink a lot, just not in excess, i could go say have 3-5 beers for 3 days, nothing for 2 then 10-12 then a few days without.

I never could be one of those who get off their face and slashed 1-2 times a day, every day.

The KiD

Banjo. thanks mate. It was a hard time and I dropped to the lowest of lows. I could have easily put a rope round my neck and joined her but I didn't.
I never turned to drink or drugs, you just have to get up and dust yourself down, mourn the loss and move on.
I do feel very strongly about drugs especially from people in the public eye. They ARE role models and kids are born to copy.
Look. I know its used everywhere and I don't like the casual couldn't care less attitude that goes with it.
I've said enough now and I think I've made my point. If just 1 person stops the drugs because of what I've said then I will die a very happy man.

Its more of a lifestyle thing....

When your rich, famous sometimes some will go the route of Drugs, Drugs replace Booze for them because they can afford it and the good stuff, some Celebs who may have done it, would maybe not have had they been normal 9-5 £200-300 a week earners like the Average Jo.

I guess a lot is peer presure, so as kids can hang around with the wrong kids and start to say Smoke or Hardner stuff at a early age, i guess some Celebs can mix with the wrong kind of Celeb and get the idea its the norm.

I guess with any addiction the best way to not be dependant or rely on stuff is simply to not try and say no in the first place.

I used to go clubbing and hang about at times with 3 people who have died from taking Ecstasy, they was kinda freinds of a freind 2 died within the same week, the other 6 months after. One used to brag he takes 4-6 pills a night (about 2 times a week and said its safe he knows no one who has died even said he took 20 in a few days when at a glastonbury type Rave do) but the night he died he only took 2.

Just shows what a russian roulette drugs can be.

Thats why i stick to Booze the oldest, proven Drug going as people have been Boozing for over 1000 years

The KiD