Following on from my recent article having a go at the ref for another pathetic display last night in the Chelsea game, the majority of the comments were ...he dived last week or 10 mins before so he deserved to be booked or sent off etc ...the refs obviously not noticed so had then punished a player when they have done nothing wrong
The Morata incident for me was a penalty to chelssa or at the very least cause for VAR so no wonder the poor fella had a go at the useless ref who reacted like a typical fella who’s never kicked a ball.
Most fans were happy to see Chelsea get dealt the s#itty stick but the bigger picture is our officials are shambolic.
The refs then get a reputation and are well known so they can appear on Sky giving their views on decisions as an ex ref when in fact there whole career was getting things wrong but it pays to be known for things like giving out 3 yellow cards
Fans as clueless as officials
posted on 18/1/18
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - Football Manager Legend. An... (U20121)
posted 1 minute ago
Putting your hand on someone’s shoulder or arm doesn’t warrant their legs giving way.... unless they’re about 70 or over or this was on an ice rink. He felt contact and decided to fall over. Never a penalty.
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Correct. I bet he wasn't saying it was a penalty when Lovren touched the Everton attacker who then dived for a penalty to win the game. Or when Henderson was pulled back in our box defending a corner and when he put his hand on the attacker he threw himself to the ground and got a penalty.
If we had this referee in those games there wouldn't have been unjust penalties. We need more like him.
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Morata is about 6’1 and probably 12st. The defender didn’t drag him to the floor or shove him in the back. Didn’t trip him up either, so there’s no way a grown man and athlete should have his legs give way on that contact. You could bet your mortgage he’d have overcome the seemingly insurmountable force of a hand on his shoulder had this taken place on the halfway line.
He’s far from the only player guilty of this. Loads of players decide their legs will go on strike when the contact has no impact on their legs whatsoever
posted on 18/1/18
I agree Morata wasn’t man handled but it was pull and you can’t do that
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So if he’s pulled him back, why did he fall forward?
This guy is a wum surely?
posted on 18/1/18
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 seconds ago
The day players stop diving, cheating, feigning injury, contesting every decision including throw ins, is the day I'll start blaming refs. The players are then defended by the manager, and the ref blamed for being conned.
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Its pretty impossible for referees considering we have had ex professionals admit that players should go down when they feel contact otherwise they wont get their free/pen. As i was saying above its very difficult to gauge what amount of contact is giving the defender an advantage. The defender is giving the ref a decision to make
posted on 18/1/18
Ledders,
Did you ever see Klinsmann in a Spurs shirt?
posted on 18/1/18
Norwich defender Timm Klose has admitted he fouled Willian in a decision which ignited Video Assistant Referee controversy as Chelsea were denied a penalty on Wednesday night.
posted on 18/1/18
comment by West London Express (U5874)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ledders,
Did you ever see Klinsmann in a Spurs shirt?
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Yes I did. Is this supposed to be the part where I be all partisan and pretend that he, Bale and Alli have always tried their absolute best to stay on their feet in the face of insurmountable fouling?
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Ledders the King - Football Manager Legend. Anti-football is the slow, boring death of football. (U20121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by West London Express (U5874)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ledders,
Did you ever see Klinsmann in a Spurs shirt?
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Yes I did. Is this supposed to be the part where I be all partisan and pretend that he, Bale and Alli have always tried their absolute best to stay on their feet in the face of insurmountable fouling?
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Nope!
posted on 19/1/18
VJ, you usually appear to know nothing about football, but in this singular instance you have a borderline reasonable point.
posted on 19/1/18
Good post, VJ, its attracted, in the main, sensible posts from fans across the board who appear on this site regularly and whose views differ.
A couple of points to make. I thought, yes my view is, that the ref in the Chelsea/Norwich game did very well, especially when confronted with the hostile abuse from the stands, and especially from some of the Chelsea players who clearly lost their cool. If you take a dive in a game, such as Michael Owen did against Arsenal many years ago - still fresh in my memory if no one else's - then from there on in that game, I wanted my club, LFC, to lose, because that's what we deserved when a cheating little fekir takes a dive.
The penalty Lovren gave away? Saw it live, disagreed with the ref, saw it later on Sky; the ref had no option.
Conclusion. Refs do their best. Just like the rest of us on planet Earth, they make mistakes.
And in case anyone has forgotten, it's a game of football people.
posted on 19/1/18
I'll say it again, if your team spend all match trying to con the officials then you can't complain if a difficult decision doesn't go your way.
If you go out for beers every Friday with colleagues, and one continually leaves before its his round, do you keep affording him the same courtesy of not paying first?
How anyone can defend Chelsea's actions is beyond me, even Chelsea fans, football would be a much better game if they just cut this rubbish out and played the game.