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Poch and the mysterious case of no trophies

Everyone on here agrees Poch is a very good manager. Many years ago I did an article on here praising him when he had a CM of Mason and Benteleb and he was showing signs of the style of football he is implementing at Spurs to some degree of success.

The one thing that goes against him is an aversion to winning trophies. The smaller club excuse doesn’t wash with me tbh. Other managers have won trophies at smaller clubs. This season Poch has a wonderful chance to show that he can win the FA cup with City and Liverpool out, a winnable game in the quarters and in theory home games in the semi and final.

It’s set up for Poch to show he can win trophies. If not - when will he have a better chance?

posted on 20/2/18

comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 56 minutes ago
Spurs are a great defensive unit, they play a high line, but your CB's play in such a way that they're always ready to either step back if needed, or more importantly nick in ahead of the attacker to take the ball, Poch as them lined up, and standing in such a way that they often anticipate the pass and intercept it before it becomes any sort of danger.
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I read a good article last season about how Spurs had gone from conceding over 50 goals to having the meanest defence in the league two seasons running. Obviously recruitment helps, so getting Toby in. But the defensive coaching ie emphasis on winning the ball high up the pitch, tackling in ways that allow you to be first back to your feet to recover/retain the ball, persistently committing fouls high up the pitch when the opposition have the ball (unlikely to result in cards but breaks up play so you can regroup), and having a DM that drops into a back 3 when fullbacks push on meaning defensive shape/numbers are never lost.

Poch was a defender himself and that has been reflected in the fact we have become an immeasurably better defensive unit under him, plus more physically imposing and dare I say it - dirtier.
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I love the fact Spurs are getting tagged for being a bit nasty.... Don't care that everyone hates Dele and the fact that Dembele, Dier & Wanyama have no problem kicking someone up in the air for no apparent reason is great. Despite the good guy rep, Kane is no shrinking violet.... He gave United's & Arsenals CBs a good going over...... Similarities to Shearer are pretty accurate in that sense..... All Makes a nice change !

posted on 20/2/18

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 12 seconds ago
The only question that really matters is are Spurs fans happy with Poch so far and where he has them going?

Even as a red I can say yes, yes they are.

Trophies are great, everyone wants to win them, however they are not everything in football.
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100% Agree. Id rather watch Spurs week in, week out under Poch playing the type of football we do, trying to make smart signings, developing & improving young players, unearthing stars of the future & growing the club to be the best it can be without the need the need for Oil money or having to to bent over by the likes an Ozil, Pogba, Sanchez (& their 5cumb@g agents) Or having to watch turgid Jose Hoofball & the pathetic excuses that follow. If that comes with a trophy then great, if not... I'll live.. Its only a game. I'm happy when we win & pi55ed when we lose. I think its an exciting time to be a Spurs fan & I don't need "purchased" trophies to justify it
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Hard to argue with that, and I think you boys and girls are right to be enjoying your footballing lives

comment by Edbo (U17933)

posted on 20/2/18

Kane bullies defences nowadays, he is a lot stronger this season.

posted on 20/2/18

We have a great mix of players in our squad. Such a great balance, especially now with the pace & trickery of Moura. We have plenty who are prepared to stick up for themselves and their mates, no one bullies us any more....more like the opposite. Love it !

posted on 20/2/18

There was this big debate last season out of what season was better out of Spurs and United's, and while trophies are a very important part of it if i was offered either season this coming August i'd choose Tottenham's (of last season).

Maybe i would answer differently if we was on a trophy drought but i don't think any knockout cup (apart from the CL) would be worth all the ruined weekends and leaving the stadium with a poor state of mind but maybe that's just me.

posted on 20/2/18

lol, finishing 2nd is a season Man Utd fans want to blank out and never think of it again like 09/10 and 11/12 all a close 2nd that we had in our hands until we bottled it or a distant 2nd Spurs were last season and never close to winning the league.

posted on 20/2/18

I rather we finish 17th and win Europa League and League cup than finishing 2nd and winning nothing.

posted on 20/2/18

I rather we finish 17th and win Europa League and League cup than finishing 2nd and winning nothing.

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Not quite sure about that one Hafi.

posted on 20/2/18

/if Leiecester City finished 17th last season and won the CL they wouldn't care they finished 17th.

posted on 20/2/18

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 36 minutes ago
I rather we finish 17th and win Europa League and League cup than finishing 2nd and winning nothing.

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Not quite sure about that one Hafi.
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I probably would too. Two trophies over none, CL football and a exciting relegation battle.

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