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Summer Tours

Is there any point to these? Looking at the squads selected it seems to me that the best thing we could have done for players was to give them a decent rest before the new season starts. I can't see that we are going to learn anything very much from the summer, other than who is going to start the season on the treatment table as a result of them.

posted on 14/6/18

Wallabies have now a physical forward pack and can see them getting better as their backline is the best in world with the AB.
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very dangerous at the back now, with pocock back now as well they will only get better

posted on 18/6/18

So far we have learned.

1. Proud Edward's army isn't all it's cracked up to be.
2. Scotland are enigmatic
3. The Welsh Welsh can beat the foreign Welsh.
4. The first choice Irish team is pretty good.

How much of this is new knowledge and how much of it was known to us after the 6N?

posted on 21/6/18

Well I'm glad someone has been enjoying our slump. That said, in a hypothetical scenario, I'd say if we lost to the USA it would be worse than our current run of 5 test defeats.

posted on 23/6/18

The officials have been an utter disgrace in the NZ/France series. In all 3 games there are big calls against the French.

Unbelievable bias towards NZ

posted on 23/6/18

comment by Aristodemus (U3765)
posted 2 days ago
Well I'm glad someone has been enjoying our slump. That said, in a hypothetical scenario, I'd say if we lost to the USA it would be worse than our current run of 5 test defeats.


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Defeat is clearly easier for some to accept than others. I feel your pain Demus. God knows, I've had plenty of practice in the left 20 years.

Welcome to my world mate.

posted on 23/6/18

Let's hope it ends today!

Will be cheering on your boys v Argentina too.

posted on 24/6/18

Ireland are the only serious nation on the planet to take on the All Blacks at this level.

Little old us

posted on 24/6/18

So at the end of the day what had been learned?

From a Scottish perspective, quite a bit actually. Players sent to show us their moves showed us some moves. Young Horne and Hastings are resilient enough to bounce back from last week and good enough to do what they did last night. Bradbury has put his troubles behind him and gives another option in the back row. Stuie Hogg is best left without the extra burden of captaincy.

One caution though. Lets not get carried away, Argentina were dire.

posted on 24/6/18

comment by Igør Rampard (U1993)
posted 6 hours, 24 minutes ago
Ireland are the only serious nation on the planet to take on the All Blacks at this level.

Little old us
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Great performance by Ireland, best of the summer, but steady the buffs mate, you played Australia, not NZ.

posted on 16/7/18

dnt know if their on the same side of the draw but nz and Ireland look the teams best set going into wc year, a lot might change though with the autumn tours and six nations next year

nz-always up there, will be big favourites going in, not as strong in the loose forwards area which imo is their one weakness

ire-probably the team best equipped to challenge nz, however like nz prior to 2011 have a history of choking big time in the wc, have the pack and creative players to go close

eng-after looking mighty strong for a few year the wheels kind of fell off this year, will they have enough time to sort the team out for the wc?

wales-always a threat against anyone but depth will cost them imo, very good 1st 15 and again a match for most

Scotland-shocking loss to the usa aside were building nicely, six nations games away from home will tell a tale as they have been pretty shocking away from home recently

Australia-very up and down, great firepower but have a pack that can be over run, probably will go deep at the wc because that's generally what they do

sa-great start for new coach, have blooded a lot of new players in, again maybe a bit early for them, harsh to judge a team on one player but need Malcolm marx to be fit if they are to have any type of chance

argentina- weird team, the club side which is basically the national side have played well and improved immensely this year(making the playoffs for the 1st time)however the national team which should have the advantage of the players all playing with each other week in week out have been pretty shocking, who knows what team shows up at the wc

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