Sean Harvey transcript on Spygate

Yh Sheffield Utd and WBA have earned my respect. Wilder was actually impressed by it all saying that Bielsa's actions would likely galvanise the club whilst having other sides scrutinise them. Called Bielsa it a genius move. I hope we d¡ck Bristol City and there miserably ran club.

comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 6 hours, 41 minutes ago
I’m not his biggest fan. Who is. But he can’t say much else at this stage. He also clarified they don’t have a rule for it and it divides opinion. I think it will be really difficult for them to come down heavy in those circumstances...

... unless there has been trespassing, breaking in, bribing etc. But frankly if there has, we deserve it.
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Spot on Milkyboy. There will be 12 reports from clubs about what was done. They will each paint a grim picture and I can foresee accusations flying. This inquiry is by no means a foregone conclusion.

Why are we under trial by talk sport?

So incompetent and unprofessional that the head of the EFL goes on a click bait, over the top radio station and talks about an open investigation.

comment by Best Fans - Leeds are falling apart again (U2196)
posted 29 minutes ago
Why are we under trial by talk sport?

So incompetent and unprofessional that the head of the EFL goes on a click bait, over the top radio station and talks about an open investigation.
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Agree. Harvey is a first class kunntt

What made me laugh was the fact they went on later to discuss rogue owners of clubs and talked about Orient, Coventry and Charlton and the rules around club ownership. Never once did anyone mention the fact Harvey spent years living up the asss of one of the biggest rogues football has ever seen.

comment by All the Bielsa ringing (U19827)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 6 hours, 41 minutes ago
I’m not his biggest fan. Who is. But he can’t say much else at this stage. He also clarified they don’t have a rule for it and it divides opinion. I think it will be really difficult for them to come down heavy in those circumstances...

... unless there has been trespassing, breaking in, bribing etc. But frankly if there has, we deserve it.
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Spot on Milkyboy. There will be 12 reports from clubs about what was done. They will each paint a grim picture and I can foresee accusations flying. This inquiry is by no means a foregone conclusion.
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Since none of the clubs other than Derby had any idea they were being spied-on, I doubt they will have any ‘evidence’ other than that which LUFC give to the investigators.
As honest as Bielsa is, I can’t see the club letting him give anything particularly damning to the FL.

Stan Collymore has been run off twitter by Leeds fans lol giving it large called us racist cheats...what a twt.
Know someone who went to school with Shaun says he was a teachers pet and general weasel.

This is the bits that is good reading.........

“When you look at the different reactions of clubs and media and supporters, half say ‘good on you’. The other half say ( ‘it’s outrageous’ ) so we’re in this situation depending on where your personal view falls. What’s interesting, as was revealed by one of the national newspapers, is that 11 clubs have asked for some more specific information and I think they’re quite within their rights to want to do that.”
“Ultimately the rules of the EFL are decided by the clubs. The executive – we perform a function to help the clubs achieve a set of rules around the competition that they want in place. If the majority of clubs want to put in effectively an anti-espionage rule then there’s no reason why that can happen.”
“Any club can make any recommendation for any rule. It only goes onto the books if the majority of clubs support it. The reality is with where we are, and this is a matter of public record, there was no specific rule that we have which says you cannot review another club’s training sessions. There is the principle around acting in good faith towards each other and the question is, has that been broken?”
Shuan Harvey’s own words (above) confirm that no ‘rule’ has effectively been broken. Yes there’s all this ‘oh but it’s broken a good faith principle’, but that’s a ‘principle’. It hasn’t been codified to the level that it is a rule, a rule whose infringement brings about punishment.
Harvey did say that clubs could ask for specific rule changes, and that is fair enough; let them do that. But, as it stands, Leeds United and Marcelo Bielsa have broken no rules, not even one. Which brings me to my next point – punishment.
Let’s be frank about it, if no current rules have been broken then no punishments can exist. The EFL would surely open up a huge can of worms should they try to apply retrospective punishment based on a posteriori thinking. So all this talk of ‘points deductions’ and/or ‘lengthy bans’ are vaporous, hot air blown from the southern exit if you want it dressed up a little.
Wheat or chaff? It’s definitely the latter and time to move on before Spygate turns into football’s 2019 version morphs into something akin to the 1692/93 Salem witch hunts.
Spygate? Mild controversy at worst, hot air at best. Still, time to move on.

If I remember Salem got deducted 7 points...they didn't go up that year....

comment by NJS (U8272)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
If I remember Salem got deducted 7 points...they didn't go up that year....
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Bringer of hope & joy fella