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Wimbledon 2019

Still gutted that Fed lost yesterday's Final, especially after having two match points

I understand how the seeding system works but it just seems unfair that Fed at nearly 38 years old had to beat both Nadal and Djok in order to win the tournament.

Whereas a 32 year old Djok only needed to beat one of Fed or Nadal in order to win it. He clearly had the easier task, especially being the younger man as well.

Would Djok have won this tournament if he'd had to play Nadal in the semis and then Fed in the Final ?

posted on 15/7/19

Unfair would have been Djokovic having to play Nadal in the semis because Djokovic earned the number 1 ranking, therefore avoided the tougher semi through merit. Seems fair no?

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 15/7/19

So the top guy shouldn't have to play the other top guys in order to prove he's still the top guy ?

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 15/7/19

I'm not really arguing about the seeding system though.

I'm making a point in a very specific context where we have the top three best tennis players to ever play the game all playing in the same tournament.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 15/7/19

* men's tennis players.

posted on 15/7/19

Still failing to see how it's unfair? Just did a quick check on the calculator to see how many players make the final two and three didn't fit into two. Was just getting an error or some weird number with a full stop in the middle. Could they have maybe Djokovic in the final and the legs of Nadal and the upper half of Federer as the opponent. It would make more sense as all 3 should be in the final to make it fair.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 15/7/19

Well I'm obviously not going to convince you that it's unfair within a specific context so you can stop repeating your same question.

I'll ask you this though. Do you honestly think that Novak would have beaten Nadal in the semis followed by Fed in the Final in this tournament ?

posted on 15/7/19

If there had been some sort of ridiculously unfair seeding and he had had to play Nadal in the semis, then yes he probably would have beaten Nadal and then Federer. Would have been pretty unfair though for actual reasons though, not completely illogical reasons like you are suggesting.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 15/7/19

Personally I don't think that it's certain that Djok would have beaten both Nadal and then Fed. Nadal was playing really well and certainly would have given Djok a significantly tougher match than he got in the semis.

Djok would have been less fresh for the Final while Fed would have been more fresh, even if we're just talking about margins. It all adds up and Fed might have gone one better than just getting to Championship point.

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 15/7/19

I don't think it helped with the likes of Tsitsipas, Thiem (more clay court), Stan & Zverev exiting the tournament early. Some of these guys are supposed to be the future of tennis and with Stan he's quite good in grand slams so I've put his name in there.

The draw was pretty straight forward for the 3 of them their most testing game came in the semis which just shows the differences in level.

posted on 23/7/19

The seeding for this tournament was fine, but if you look at the amount of times Federer and Djokovic were drawn against each other from about 2008-2013 (no matter what the seedings) and then saw Nadal always get Murray (very good, but a clear 4th at best and on clay he was nowhere then). Sometimes Murray was injured too

I found those seedings very unfair.

Have a look at the slams between 2008-2013 if you don't believe me

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