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VAR is not the issue

Yesterday when Gabriel Jesus scored, I cheered. Not only did it keep pressure on the (insert derisory name for Liverpool here), it also meant Spurs were losing, which I always like.

Then VAR ruled the goal out. You can imagine how much of a kick in the nuts that was.

I understand entirely why the goal was ruled out, and in that respect VAR was used correctly. But it's the rules which have made things difficult. Handball and ball-to-hand have always been distinct - so why now, when VAR has been brought in, do they need to be different? If all arm contact will rule out a goal, quite a few goals will be lost. Is it worth affecting so many results to achieve dubious perfection? What about history - so many games have been decided by dubious decisions. Are we supposed to ignore all of those as well?

VAR could be an excellent tool. Its limitations include that it will still be reviewed by people and will therefore still be subject to human error and the opinions of people. Additionally, if stricter rules are to be enforced, VAR will affect the fluidity of the game, and the beautiful game is all about fluidity.

VAR was deemed necessary because of inconsistent refereeing, but if some sensible concessions aren't made with regard to the rules it is meant to enforce, it will through no fault of its own become even more controversial than the reason it was brought in to begin with.

posted on 18/8/19

To be fair the handball for defending teams has gotten ridiculous too,look at the penalty United got v PSG (amongst others) for example

posted on 18/8/19

Offside rule was designed to rule out goal hanging. So what's with all these fractional overturned decisions about? Game should be allowed to flow, if you're a nose in front of the last defender, so frigging what

posted on 18/8/19

comment by Shaun M - Ran out of usernames (U9955)
posted 7 seconds ago
Offside rule was designed to rule out goal hanging. So what's with all these fractional overturned decisions about? Game should be allowed to flow, if you're a nose in front of the last defender, so frigging what
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This is the weakest argument. What alternative do you propose?


The game has evolved in 150 years. If you want the original intention of the rule to stand you would have to create an area near the goal that players aren’t allowed to enter. Like a big semi circle painted on the ground to prevent goal hanging.

Otherwise, it’s the offside rule which is black or white. On or off.

posted on 18/8/19

comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Emery (U21076)
posted 3 minutes ago
VAR is ruining football.
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I thought that was liverpool
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Liverpool aren't ruining football, their nauseating fans are

posted on 18/8/19

We saved football for Arsenal fans.

Spurs fans would have been unbearable to Arsenal fans and the latter would now be hiding under a huge rock.

Is this the thanks we get?

posted 4 weeks, 2 days ago

comment by Cinciwolf---- jealous little scottish to$$er (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Emery (U21076)
posted 3 minutes ago
VAR is ruining football.
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I thought that was liverpool
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Liverpool aren't ruining football, their nauseating fans are
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And by extension, VAR is ruining it.

posted 4 weeks, 2 days ago

comment by Dubbed the new Emery (U21076)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---- jealous little scottish to$$er (U11551)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Emery (U21076)
posted 3 minutes ago
VAR is ruining football.
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I thought that was liverpool
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Liverpool aren't ruining football, their nauseating fans are
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And by extension, VAR is ruining it.
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Ha ha ha

posted 4 weeks, 2 days ago

comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
I dont see why anyone has an issue with the new rule, how can they sit there and moan about ruling out a goal which came from an unfair advantage of handball which isnt prohibited in the game? Accidental or not why should one team be allowed to benefit from it over another????
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The new rule for handball is complete nonsense, that city accidental handball would only be given against the attacking team if they score. Had it been the defending team who made that accidental handball then it wouldn’t be given,

One handball rule for the attackers, one for the defenders, a complete nonsense
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Thank you!

It's like the old issue of, "That would have been a foul anywhere else," when a penalty isn't given. A foul should be a foul everywhere, they aren't divisible by location.

posted 4 weeks, 2 days ago

comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Ran out of usernames (U9955)
posted 7 seconds ago
Offside rule was designed to rule out goal hanging. So what's with all these fractional overturned decisions about? Game should be allowed to flow, if you're a nose in front of the last defender, so frigging what
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This is the weakest argument. What alternative do you propose?


The game has evolved in 150 years. If you want the original intention of the rule to stand you would have to create an area near the goal that players aren’t allowed to enter. Like a big semi circle painted on the ground to prevent goal hanging.

Otherwise, it’s the offside rule which is black or white. On or off.
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It’s not remotely a weak argument.

Lawmakers are fixating on betting decisions ‘right’ down to the last mm but haven’t stopped to themselves why it’s necessary.

The game is being spoilt with this needless and futile search for perfection in officiating, imo.

posted 4 weeks, 2 days ago

OP, the problem is definitely partly to do with VAR.

People have got themselves so muddled with the handball law, as have the law makers, and the situation has been so confused that we’re left with absolutes that make no actual sense.

This is all because of the ability to watch incidents back, in slow motion.

Common sense has disappeared.

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