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Is 4-4-2 still viable?

I was thinking about some of Sir Alex's United teams that won league titles and how he always favoured the 4-4-2, even in his final few season when no on else was playing that formation. And i was just wondering, why is it that top teams don't really play 4-4-2 anymore? Is it because modern wingers are more like wide forwards and don't fit the role they would have to play in a 4-4-2? Is it because there aren't that many top strikers about that would work in a partnership with another top striker? Is it because a team playing a 4-4-2 would always lose the midfield battle to a top team playing with 3 in midfield?

What would a team need to be able to play 4-4-2 successfully in this modern day? Would a player like Kante, for example, make a 4-4-2 more viable with his ability to do the work of more than one player in midfield?

comment by (U22236)

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

I said that those games are still examples of him doing things tactically to prevent being outmanned in midfield because he had a CM play wide and tuck in, right?
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When did I say he couldn't do that? I know he did that. So?

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by (U22236)
posted 5 seconds ago
I said that those games are still examples of him doing things tactically to prevent being outmanned in midfield because he had a CM play wide and tuck in, right?
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When did I say he couldn't do that? I know he did that. So?
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You literally hurt my brain wahl

comment by (U22236)

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 5 seconds ago
I said that those games are still examples of him doing things tactically to prevent being outmanned in midfield because he had a CM play wide and tuck in, right?
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When did I say he couldn't do that? I know he did that. So?
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You literally hurt my brain wahl
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What have I said that's wrong? I don't actually understand? You seem to think that I said that Ferguson couldn't adjust his tactics and always had to play traditional 4-4-2.

I never said that. Not once.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by (U22236)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 37 seconds ago
Sorry, I guess I was wrong. I thought Man Utd played 4-4-2 under Sir Alex Ferguson.
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Overwhelmingly, we did, particularly in his early years. But so did nearly all English sides in the nineties.
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He would have been a pretty crap manager if other managers came in and overran the 4-4-2 in midfield and he did nothing to combat it.
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I just want so say, in Champions League finals playing against teams playing 4-3-3, Ferguson played 4-4-2 in both 2008 and 2011.
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What were you trying to show with this comment wahl?
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What is wrong with that comment? He played 4-4-2, that's a fact as far as I'm aware. Is it wrong?
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No it's not wrong but I dont understand what point you are making with it.

It reads like you think those 2 games are examples of SAF not doing something to prevent being overran in midfield against a 433.

That's how I interpreted it, which I think is fair enough, and so just pointed out that he still did something tactically to prevent being outmanned in midfield in those games.

That's all this is

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by (U22236)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 5 seconds ago
I said that those games are still examples of him doing things tactically to prevent being outmanned in midfield because he had a CM play wide and tuck in, right?
----------------------------
When did I say he couldn't do that? I know he did that. So?
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You literally hurt my brain wahl
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What have I said that's wrong? I don't actually understand? You seem to think that I said that Ferguson couldn't adjust his tactics and always had to play traditional 4-4-2.

I never said that. Not once.
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No I dont think that you said that at all

comment by (U22236)

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 37 seconds ago
Sorry, I guess I was wrong. I thought Man Utd played 4-4-2 under Sir Alex Ferguson.
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Overwhelmingly, we did, particularly in his early years. But so did nearly all English sides in the nineties.
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He would have been a pretty crap manager if other managers came in and overran the 4-4-2 in midfield and he did nothing to combat it.
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I just want so say, in Champions League finals playing against teams playing 4-3-3, Ferguson played 4-4-2 in both 2008 and 2011.
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What were you trying to show with this comment wahl?
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What is wrong with that comment? He played 4-4-2, that's a fact as far as I'm aware. Is it wrong?
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No it's not wrong but I dont understand what point you are making with it.

It reads like you think those 2 games are examples of SAF not doing something to prevent being overran in midfield against a 433.

That's how I interpreted it, which I think is fair enough, and so just pointed out that he still did something tactically to prevent being outmanned in midfield in those games.

That's all this is
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Well then you misinterpreted it.

I said Sir Alex played 4-4-2 in his last few seasons apart from one season.

I was told this was wrong.

I was then called an idiot

I then pointed out to said person that called me an idiot that he did actually play 4-4-2 in two of his biggest games in that time period. Just saying.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

"Sir Alex never changed it."
"Sir Alex always played a 4-4-2."

That's all that people were disputing.

comment by (U22236)

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 3 seconds ago
"Sir Alex never changed it."
"Sir Alex always played a 4-4-2."

That's all that people were disputing.


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Yes but that comes from people taking always way too literally. Obviously he didn't play the exact formation every single game. I mean he generally favoured the 4-4-2 apart from one or two seasons.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (U22236)
posted 37 seconds ago
Sorry, I guess I was wrong. I thought Man Utd played 4-4-2 under Sir Alex Ferguson.
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Overwhelmingly, we did, particularly in his early years. But so did nearly all English sides in the nineties.
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He would have been a pretty crap manager if other managers came in and overran the 4-4-2 in midfield and he did nothing to combat it.
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I just want so say, in Champions League finals playing against teams playing 4-3-3, Ferguson played 4-4-2 in both 2008 and 2011.
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He played a CM 'wide' in both games though so it was hardly a classic 442
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Yes. And after the Madrid one he began using different formations in most European games.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

As you were too young to know, you should Google it. There are many sources if you don't believe the people who weren't too young.

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