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Thoughts from today

Got in late, so missed penalty, and am not taking Rovers commentators views on that seroiusly!

Really not looking that effective despite possessions and actually some of commentators comments about it not being as if we're creating chance after chance was true, again loads of possession and little end product and I thought, as per usual, opponents came into it more second half and we start to look like we're hanging on.

We had one attack in particular where White dispossessed Dack, strode upfield, then the attack stops allowing opponents to get loads of mane back behind the ball, not making the most of these attacks, would have hoped Costa and his pace would be outlet. I feel Harrison gets so much of the ball that he's bound to get some goals but that for amount of ball he gets we should get more end product.

Know Bamford puts a lot of work in but he should be in box on end of chances.

Not much to say about the rest except Philips was decent again, Klich and Dallas a bit meh and Costa still yet to show 15m of playe he is meant to be.

However, most important thing is 3 more points and hope that Cooper's injury is not serious!

posted on 11/11/19

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 2 minutes ago

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)
posted 12 hours, 20 minutes ago
I must disagree with you there, Jonty. I liked Roofe and thought he did a great job for us for a couple of seasons but he was out with injury for critical parts of 18-19 and it seemed to me like it was the right time for him to move on. Pleased he seems to be doing well in Belgium but more pleased for Pat Bamford today putting that penalty away cool as a cucumber, like a no 9 should. He's had a problem finding the net but he really works hard and opens up huge holes. That assist today was sublime skill. I'd say Bamford works much harder for the team than Roofe did.

Three more points

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Player isn’t in control of WHEN he gets an injury, Roofe’s goals propelled us to top, put us in commanding lead in playoffs, I think it was poor management to allow him to leave and to leave for so little, it’s no Co incidence that now we’re struggling to score goals.

Great that Bamford scored a penalty, but it’s the open play chances (and corners) he needs to put away that will make a real difference. Is that penalty enough to kickstart his goals?

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so you'd prefer Roofe up top over Bamford? - and have Bamford sat on the bench?

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)

posted on 11/11/19

Jonty, we're in third position, two points off the top with everything to play for.

It's true that Roofe didn't choose to get injured, but that's just the nature of the game. I think anyone who would choose to leave a Bielsa squad pushing for promotion rather than up his game and fight for his place in that project like all professionals should be doing is putting self before side. Roofe chose to leave, it seemed to me. That was his right and that was what he did. I think he made an intelligent choice given what might happen after Brexit.

But on reflection, I agree we let him go too cheap, like Jansson. I presume that's Kinnear? He's not very impressive in his role as a negotiator, is he?

And as far as Bamford is concerned, he really really wants success - that's why he works so hard. He desperately wants to be loved by the ER faithful. He's much hungrier that Roofe was, it seems to me.

I say "it seems to me" because to be frank I'll admit my perspective is extremely limited. I don't get to go to games and that's crucial for really seeing how the players perform.

But even so, we've the second-best GD this morning and the meanest defence in this division. It seems to me that momentum is building. A penalty conversion may well open the flood gates and change everything. Is this only wishful thinking?

posted on 11/11/19

And as far as Bamford is concerned, he really really wants success - that's why he works so hard. He desperately wants to be loved by the ER faithful. He's much hungrier that Roofe was, it seems to me.

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on a little side note, the ER faithful have been very good to Bamford.. not getting on his case and supporting him, due to his huge effort..

well done to the Crowd I think

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 11/11/19

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)
posted 31 minutes ago
Jonty, we're in third position, two points off the top with everything to play for.

It's true that Roofe didn't choose to get injured, but that's just the nature of the game. I think anyone who would choose to leave a Bielsa squad pushing for promotion rather than up his game and fight for his place in that project like all professionals should be doing is putting self before side. Roofe chose to leave, it seemed to me. That was his right and that was what he did. I think he made an intelligent choice given what might happen after Brexit.

But on reflection, I agree we let him go too cheap, like Jansson. I presume that's Kinnear? He's not very impressive in his role as a negotiator, is he?

And as far as Bamford is concerned, he really really wants success - that's why he works so hard. He desperately wants to be loved by the ER faithful. He's much hungrier that Roofe was, it seems to me.

I say "it seems to me" because to be frank I'll admit my perspective is extremely limited. I don't get to go to games and that's crucial for really seeing how the players perform.

But even so, we've the second-best GD this morning and the meanest defence in this division. It seems to me that momentum is building. A penalty conversion may well open the flood gates and change everything. Is this only wishful thinking?
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Roofe had year left on contract he didn’t choose to leave promotion push, the club chose to sell.

Poor management sees far too many valuable players reaching last year of contract and being sold, butbthen again selling players is what AR saud he wanted to get into football to do.

With bamford in such poor scoring form (first goal for 10 games?) the sale of Roofe serves to highlight how scarce goals are in this team and how valuable he really is.

If we go up this season maybe there is a justification, but if not then it’s really poor from the club.

I agree we’re building momentum but mean defences might prevent you losing but it’s the goals that will Win you matches, it’s a huge Achilles heel for us at present, not just bamford but lack of goals from everywhere else in the side.

Yes Bamfords trying but so dues everything other player, not sure Bamford tries harder than others, I wouldn’t mistake his relief at finally scoring as more effort than others.

posted on 11/11/19

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 26 minutes ago
And as far as Bamford is concerned, he really really wants success - that's why he works so hard. He desperately wants to be loved by the ER faithful. He's much hungrier that Roofe was, it seems to me.

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on a little side note, the ER faithful have been very good to Bamford.. not getting on his case and supporting him, due to his huge effort..

well done to the Crowd I think
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The ER crowd have been right behind him, week after week from what I witness.

From the stands you really get to see the work rate the guy gives and his desire to do well. Graft without end product normally only gets you so much leeway, but I think the crowd recognise he's a decent player wanting to do well for us (and himself of course).

His reaction after converting the pen was an acknowledgment of the mutual appreciation that exists I thought.

posted on 11/11/19

His reaction after converting the pen was an acknowledgment of the mutual appreciation that exists I thought.

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VOF, totally agree with that.... huge balls to pick up the ball and place on the spot too.. well done Christiano Bamford

posted on 11/11/19

The crowd clearly recognise something in Bamford and are rightly getting behind him Jonty. He gives more to the side than just goals. Everyone knows, Bamford himself, that he needs to score more. But a notoriously tough crowd, who've given others grief in the past, aren't doing so with Bamford. There's a reason for that i'd suggest.

The rights/wrongs of Roofe going only the player and the club know for sure. But he has gone and good luck to him in Belgium. My guess is he wanted pay parity with the other top earners, the club refused (possibly due to his perceived injury prone past?). I'm sure the club would have been criticised if he was given a 4 year deal on a level with Bamford/Kiko? I get his view in wanting to leave, I get the clubs. Move on for all concerned, that's footie.

Goals may win you matches … but defences win you titles and success. It's a much used saying, but a fair bit of truth in it.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 11/11/19

VOF, I've never said they don't and I've never said he doesn't put a lot in.

What I'm saying is that there aren't enough goals in teh side and I would have preferred to still have Roofe in squad, with Nketiah as an addition.

Those defences that win you titles are normally in sides that score plenty of goals too, we really have to fix that.

posted on 11/11/19

No denying we need more goals. In an ideal world yes, i'd still have Roofe to call on, as well as Eddie.

posted on 11/11/19

Roofe situation came as a result of us buying a central attacking player from the lower leagues and then sticking him on the wing for 2 seasons where he was ineffective. Back then the talk was of how much we had been ripped off on his £3m transfer fee! I wore the skin off my fingertips stating he was not a winger.

Bielsa then plays him centrally and starts the season on fire but now his contract is down to 18 months and we have signed another striker he is out performing whos getting paid twice as much and now wont sign unless his wages are doubled.

Blame Monk. TC and Heckythump.

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