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I see Leeds are bottling promotion again.

Which team do you think are the biggest bottlers in football? Arsenal? Leeds? PSG? Someone else?

posted on 21/6/20

Of course it wasn't one game, I was trying to explain to you how football works and how point gaps between teams at different levels will increase as a season goes on naturally because as you player more games and one team averages more points than the other, the gap will grow bigger in terms of points. Thats why Norwich may have been 3 points behind Liverpool after game 1, then maybe 10 points behind after 1 month and now are 60 points or whatever behind. It's not because they've gotten worse, it's because more games have been played and the teams have kept performing on average the same way.

posted on 21/6/20

And nobody gives a fack about being 8th. Mourinho was brought in to get 4th and he has failed.
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No he wasn't brought in to take a team that was 14th in november to 4th, that's completely unrealistic. He was appointed because your previous manager was finished and he was the best option to take the team in the right directiion moving forwards, not just this season but in future seasons.

How can you say that a mananger appointed in novemeber to the 14th place team must finish 4th or else he's failed? You'd have to be a spoilt brat or a complete idiot. Pick one.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 21/6/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
Of course it wasn't one game, I was trying to explain to you how football works and how point gaps between teams at different levels will increase as a season goes on naturally because as you player more games and one team averages more points than the other, the gap will grow bigger in terms of points. Thats why Norwich may have been 3 points behind Liverpool after game 1, then maybe 10 points behind after 1 month and now are 60 points or whatever behind. It's not because they've gotten worse, it's because more games have been played and the teams have kept performing on average the same way.
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Using 1 game as an example is dumb though, as it's far too short a time frame that can even see a team like Norwich in first place. That's why I dismissed it.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 21/6/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
And nobody gives a fack about being 8th. Mourinho was brought in to get 4th and he has failed.
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No he wasn't brought in to take a team that was 14th in november to 4th, that's completely unrealistic. He was appointed because your previous manager was finished and he was the best option to take the team in the right directiion moving forwards, not just this season but in future seasons.

How can you say that a mananger appointed in novemeber to the 14th place team must finish 4th or else he's failed? You'd have to be a spoilt brat or a complete idiot. Pick one.
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As I already pointed out, we were few points off top 4 when Mourinho took over despite being lower in the table. Top 4 was quite easily achievable for him with the amount of time given and the distance from top 4. Not to mention his supposed reputation as a top manager. The fact we are now not able to reach top 4, and probably won't even get top 6, AND have gone out of all the cup competitions, means he has so far been a big failure.

posted on 21/6/20

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
Of course it wasn't one game, I was trying to explain to you how football works and how point gaps between teams at different levels will increase as a season goes on naturally because as you player more games and one team averages more points than the other, the gap will grow bigger in terms of points. Thats why Norwich may have been 3 points behind Liverpool after game 1, then maybe 10 points behind after 1 month and now are 60 points or whatever behind. It's not because they've gotten worse, it's because more games have been played and the teams have kept performing on average the same way.
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Using 1 game as an example is dumb though, as it's far too short a time frame that can even see a team like Norwich in first place. That's why I dismissed it.
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Oh my god, you actually genuinely can't understand the point

posted on 21/6/20

I just checked because i suspect you're a liar. You were 11 points off 4th after 12 games when the previous manager was fired. You are currently.6 points off 4th after 30 games.

So yeah, you're a liar. Had you kept going under the previous manager, the gap currently would be around 26-27 points. It's 6 now because of Mourinho.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 21/6/20

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comment by Tyke (U9181)

posted on 21/6/20

Arsenal do keep winning things,despite all their problems,so hardler kings of the bottlers. Leeds are about to get promoted,no doubt about that. But Spurs? Remember when they came third in a two horse race? Now they are EPIC bottlers! World class bottlers and they last won the league half a century ago! So,NO contest at all.

posted on 22/6/20

Without doubt it has to be spurs, even more so when they have a busted flush in charge

posted on 22/6/20

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