...and itβs painful
But the injury goals weβve conceded this season that have meant weβve ended up drawing a game instead of winning it has cost us 10 points
Unfortunately that is the difference between automatic promotion and the lottery of a playoff
Now plenty will say, weβve improved on last season, so that OK, weβre going in the right direction - but it isnβt
Yes weβve improved, and thatβs great, but it will be absolutely gut wrenching if we miss out on promotion through the playoffs, knowing that we could easily have gone up automatically if weβd just seen out those 5 or 6 games - those fine margins could be the difference between a Β£100M+ payday or not
I think weβre almost guaranteed a playoff place, but alas, it remains to be seen if we can actually see the whole job through
THE FACT IS...
posted on 5/7/20
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
The teams who play well organised defence football do fine in the premier league as a general rule. I don’t think you would pull up any trees and I’ll be honest - I really hate that brand of football and actually think it’s bad for the PL, but it works. Trouble is we have enough of that kind of drab defensive stuff as it is - Burnley, Palace etc without adding any more
The top teams would rip you a new one because they can pass and move through it - but you’d be fine stuck in 15th or whatever. Trouble is the longer it goes on, the more you will get sick of playing that kind of football, make a change and that’s when the risk comes
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The plan isn’t to play boring football - we don’t do that, it’s not in our DNA
We’d need to survive First and foremost, but Forest’s history is a well organised passing team, we are renowned for it, it’s in our blood - more so than most other clubs in the Country
You ask anyone who knows their football, name 6 teams who are renowned for playing football the right way, and I bet Forest will be in there
So don’t think for a minute if we were to hit the PL, we’d be a Stoke, Palace or Burnley ππΌ
posted on 5/7/20
We're in a very good position to do well in the playoffs, as long as we avoid Derby & Cardiff before the final. Then who know's? that's the great thing about football, besides there will be a lot's of available football talent available for next season. Just a question of recruiting wisely.
posted on 5/7/20
Rev you don't have the players to pass it about in the Prem. They arn't good enough to play that way in the Championship which is why you play the non-football you do.
If you try and pass it about you'll just do a Norwich or a Villa or any of those teams and get relegated.
So unless you can all of a sudden afford to buy world class players then your going to have to do a Burnley.
Thats how you're set up now. Scaramouchi doesn't know how to coach proper football so if you want to play a sweeping expansive passing game then you'll have to ditch that boring tw@t for a start
posted on 5/7/20
comment by Rameses, Kom op jij Rams (U7190)
posted 2 hours ago
Rev you don't have the players to pass it about in the Prem. They arn't good enough to play that way in the Championship which is why you play the non-football you do.
If you try and pass it about you'll just do a Norwich or a Villa or any of those teams and get relegated.
So unless you can all of a sudden afford to buy world class players then your going to have to do a Burnley.
Thats how you're set up now. Scaramouchi doesn't know how to coach proper football so if you want to play a sweeping expansive passing game then you'll have to ditch that boring tw@t for a start
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Rameses....that’s why you get snore-season and £100M+ when young wet promoted...to purchase certain additions
I have no doubt, that if we make the playoffs and succeed in getting promoted - (all still very much not guaranteed), but if we do, we’ll acquire certain players to bolster the squad to try and ensure we manage to hold our own, and play chops football in the process - I should imagainebthatnis every teams ambition, hopes and aims when wanting to get promoted
Trust that helps ππΌ
posted on 5/7/20
Rameses....that’s why you get a pre-season and £100M+ when you get yourselves promoted...*
(That’s what is was meant to say )
posted on 5/7/20
I have no doubt, that if we make the playoffs and succeed in getting promoted - (all still very much not guaranteed), but if we do, we’ll acquire certain players to bolster the squad to try and ensure we manage to hold our own, and play GOOD football in the process - I should imagaine that is every teams ambition, hopes and aims when wanting to get promoted*
(That’s what it was meant to say too )
posted on 5/7/20
Such naivety Rev.
Everybody gets 100m but it’s only pennies in reality. And they’re all going for the same players. £30 mill buys you an average prem player. You might want to pay 50mill for someone decent but they don’t want to come to you. They want European football. So you’re left with an average team. So basically if you play proper football you end up near the bottom. Norwich, Villa, West Ham, Bournemouth etc you end up fighting it out in the bottom 6 all season. If you play non-football and you do it well then you can survive. It’s a shiite league but that’s the reality for a club like Forest.
Maybe the Greek can flog you to a Middle Eastern or Asian country but most of those already own a club.
It’s a trudge, a battle to stay up and pick up the crumbs while being cannon fodder when the big boys play you on Sky.
posted on 5/7/20
comment by Rameses, Kom op jij Rams (U7190)
posted 26 minutes ago
Such naivety Rev.
Everybody gets 100m but it’s only pennies in reality. And they’re all going for the same players. £30 mill buys you an average prem player. You might want to pay 50mill for someone decent but they don’t want to come to you. They want European football. So you’re left with an average team. So basically if you play proper football you end up near the bottom. Norwich, Villa, West Ham, Bournemouth etc you end up fighting it out in the bottom 6 all season. If you play non-football and you do it well then you can survive. It’s a shiite league but that’s the reality for a club like Forest.
Maybe the Greek can flog you to a Middle Eastern or Asian country but most of those already own a club.
It’s a trudge, a battle to stay up and pick up the crumbs while being cannon fodder when the big boys play you on Sky.
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You’re the naive one
Going by your philosophy, no team should bother going up because they’re only going to play boring football and get relegated - so your alternative is not to get promoted but just stay in the 2nd tier of football because you’re in a league these is pretty much matched
I’m sure all the teams that have got promoted over the course of history are really angry and upset for getting promoted, and I’m sure they all wished they’d failed and just stayed in the League they were in
One last thing, what’s was your thinking when Derby were in the playoffs in recent season, I’m really sure you wanted them to fail and not go up
But I understand your hesitancy and worry about going up, especially when the last time did it, you got relegated with the worst point tally in history
Thankfully others teams like Forest have ambition to get more than 11 points - you just carry on living with the nightmare
posted on 5/7/20
IT JUST HAD TO BE DERBY
posted on 6/7/20
Boring, boring Forest. Last time out against Fulham...
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