Bayern Club President, Uli Hoeness on the clubs season ticket prices.
"We could charge more than £104. Let's say we charged £300. We'd get £2m more in income, but what's £2m to us?
In a transfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. That's the biggest difference between us and England".
How it should be. 👏🏻
After the esl fiasco and the fact that really, only financially dopes clubs win the domestic trophies with the odd exception, will the premier league clubs ever hit a price that fans won’t accept? My club now charge the highest prices in Europe, even though they have won next to nothing in 20 years and frankly the football on display has been awful, however they do have forty thousand people on the season ticket waiting list.
As a firefighter with ten years of Tory pay cuts, my family have long been priced out of ever being able to afford a season ticket, which means the fourth generation of spurs fans in my family, may not actually end up supporting spurs, or football at all.
Well done to all you fans who protested against the disgusting greed and disregard of the big five clubs and spurs.
👍
Premier league rip off
posted on 14/5/21
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 31 minutes ago
good article
sums up modern day football
amazed me how many fans of premier league clubs got on their high horse about the european super league, given what the premier league has done to football for 30 odd years
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Rank hypocrisy for the most part from them, which many are totally or willfully unaware of
posted on 14/5/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
He’s spot on there. It’s about time PL clubs realised it. That said as much as he’s preaching the Bundesliga isn’t the most entertaining, Bayern win every year. If they addressed that, and the unfair distribution of money in the BL, they’d have an amazing fan focussed league the rest of the world should be emulating.
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That’s an issue every league is facing. Even PL suffers from one horse race however in past 10 years you’ve had different winners even if City have dominated for vast majority. Before you had Man Utd and to certain extent, Arsenal posing a threat to their dominance there and there. That was much worse in terms of parity.
Tv money has done a lot for PL in making sure we’re not stuck with same winners all the time.
Hence why you get the ESL proposal popping up and it’s hard to argue against it on that basis. PL clubs have no need to join it other than from pure financial point really.
Scottish league has had this issue for decades as well
posted on 14/5/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
good article
sums up modern day football
amazed me how many fans of premier league clubs got on their high horse about the european super league, given what the premier league has done to football for 30 odd years
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This.
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Nah!
"What the premier league has done over the last 30 years" is elevated the english top division to being the best league in the world. It's success has been achieved by the high level of competition, brilliant stadium and atmosphere and attracting the best players in the world.
It is a competitive market and we will all remember it was Italy's Serie A that used to dominate before the EPL. Now look at them. Poor crumbling stadiums, falling attendance, massive debt.
Wages are the biggest single cost to clubs and it is these that drives the need for ever greater revenue, particularly at the top end of the league ticket prices are key to that.
Fans are hypocrits and want to pick and chose what bits of football they want and dont want:
They want their club to spend more on better players, to give them better entertainment, to compete with those above them and win stuff, but ultimately they dont want to have to pay for it.
Would fans, if offered the chance, agree to a 30% cut in ticket prices is it meant £20m coming out of the player budget?
Germany is a different model, a less successful league and Bayern totally dominate that one horse race and will cherry pick the best players and maintain their untouchable status. That is not quite so possible in ther EPL, its highly competitive within itself.
posted on 14/5/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
He’s spot on there. It’s about time PL clubs realised it. That said as much as he’s preaching the Bundesliga isn’t the most entertaining, Bayern win every year. If they addressed that, and the unfair distribution of money in the BL, they’d have an amazing fan focussed league the rest of the world should be emulating.
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Yeah but if they spread the money more evenly in the BL, then Bayern would have to pack their smugness away and up their prices to maintain their financial strength on the European stage. Right now they don't have to as they totally dominate and generate huge such of money.
posted on 14/5/21
*sums of money
posted on 14/5/21
Not a fan of Bayern, but good on them.
posted on 14/5/21
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
good article
sums up modern day football
amazed me how many fans of premier league clubs got on their high horse about the european super league, given what the premier league has done to football for 30 odd years
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I’m amazed you still peddle this shiiiiiit and think it’s comparable.
posted on 14/5/21
Don’t they have ticket caps in Germany, so the clubs can’t charge extortionate prices anyway?
posted on 15/5/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 11 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
good article
sums up modern day football
amazed me how many fans of premier league clubs got on their high horse about the european super league, given what the premier league has done to football for 30 odd years
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This.
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Nah!
"What the premier league has done over the last 30 years" is elevated the english top division to being the best league in the world. It's success has been achieved by the high level of competition, brilliant stadium and atmosphere and attracting the best players in the world.
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And there's consequences for that. Enjoy how great its become as fans but there's always consequences after change.
posted on 15/5/21
A fee years back the Prem started making more money overseas than it does locally. As it stands now international income outstrips local income by about a billion. Well over 50% of the money your club has to pay wages and sheet is coming mostly from people who've probably never set foot in England.
The prem is now dependent on the international market financially and also for top players, without which the Prem would simply collapse.
The real money makers are games involving a top team, fact is no one outside these shores pays some subscription or spends money to watch Burnley vs Brighton, that game is just part of the package.
A huge market opportunity has been created as the world is now hungry for top level football and will pay good money to see it. Sooner or later that demand will be satisfied one way or another either by traditional teams or new to be formed teams as there's just too much money to be made.
For instance, stuff like the ESL is targeted at that market that wants to see big teams playing big teams every match day and that market is infinitely larger and more profitable than local markets now.
We package it and want to sell it internationally, even signing certain players because of certain markets and in the process we've created a monster. You can't have your cake and eat it, eventually it catches up.