Firstly, rather them than me, it's very hot out there.
Thought we were nudging it in beginning, good passing round effective pressing, no real threat from them and then through ball and I think Llorente was very very lucky to get away with that having made minimal, if any contact withe the ball.
Thought Koch looked decent, Kristensen ok and Aaronson full of energy.
I wonder if this is new injury for Bamford or something historical, one wonders how long out for now.
Thought James did ok and one particular through ball that leveraged his pace was teh first time I've ever seen him used properly for us and he forced great save from keeper.
Harrison very effective on the left, I thought Struijk less so and that is weak side for us even when Firpo is back, I don't understand why club have not addressed this.
We're wondering how to fix striker problem, I would contend we might not have striker problem if we play Rodrigo up top and buy did he deliver today. Hope he stays fit as it may be that we have lost Gelhardt now.
2-0 up and high energy game will come back to haunt you, with chance to make 5 subs and finally a bit more experience on bench we dont make teh subs.
Southampton do, they draw level and our subs are then too little too late. Great subs last week, poor subs this week especially bearing in mind Marsch commented this week about knowing how to play in the heat.
Re second goal, really dont understand the organisation and why Harrison was playing left back, that has to be Struijk's job with Harrison free to pick up loose/second balls.
Hardly anything to say about Meslier nor Sinisterra but one lovely touch from Klich nearly set Rodrigo up for a third.
Still not sure on Roca, seems a bit anonymous to me and Adams just looks very very lightweight.
To sum up, we seemed decent value at 2-0 but one must remember that we were up against a very poor side.
To have thrown the 2-0 lead away so late in game was very poor and we have to sort out midfield to be a bit more effective as we are going to come up against better teams than this.
Except for subs (and do wonder why James went off), I think side and Marsch did well today.
Hopefully injury news isn't too bad.
Thoughts from today
posted on 15/8/22
I blame trump. He poisoned the world. Respect is now a four letter word.
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 21 hours, 37 minutes ago
The fact that I'm referred to as"lowlife" and The Donn as"dong" is itself insulting and abusive.
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Embrace it, the name puts you on the map.
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 22 hours, 55 minutes ago
The fact that I'm referred to as"lowlife" and The Donn as"dong" is itself insulting and abusive.
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I've never used either term.
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
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you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
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Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
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you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
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Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
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think you are both right, it was a well times tackle but even those can be lucky or unlucky due to a split second is all it would have taken to make the difference. Split second later it would have been a red and to be fair to llorente that is 2 brilliant tackles he has made in 2 games its a pity he ball watches too much from dead ball situations and loses his man. Even Kristensen who in my opinion has been poor so far has one brilliant tackle to his name in wolves game but that aside hasnt done much to warrant keeping his place but i suppose he can only get better
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
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you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
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Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
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No, I don't think it was a perfectly timed tackle, a perfectly timed tackle would have made a firmer contact to put the ball further out of harm's way and not caused the opponent to go down and put it under scrutiny.
A ref could have just as easily seen it as a foul, we'd have been upset about it, but it could happen and then we'd say he was unlucky,
The point is it can easily go either way and players who do this end up not getting away with it all the time and that is Llorente to a tee.
You might like him, I think he's a liability.
posted on 16/8/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 14 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by VOF - Have a nice day y'all ... (U17124)
posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 16 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's lovechild (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Jonty.. I'm so sorry you have had to endure what you have just described...I had no idea!
These people that do this clearly have some serious mental health issues... It's incredible but sadly a poor reflection on the state of society we seem to be living in. No boundaries, No discipline and a total sense of entitlement!
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I look at how some people try and shame others by contacting their employers etc and think I got off relatively lightly, but people are jealous, spiteful, want to reputation ally damage and in my experience the sooner you just ignore and filter/block/whatever mechanism your social channels allow the better.
Invariably the perpetrators complain about free speech, but if they hadn't abused their free speech rights in the first place.....
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We've disagreed, argued ... but searching out your employer - or any other type of personal info, just to take a pop or try and report something .... that drifts into creepy.
I know you like tennis, from dialogue I've an idea (very roughly) where you live (I lived in that area years ago, if i've worked it out correctly). I like footy, rugby (either code) and live in Bradford, work for NHS with work all over the internet if you're ever suffering with insomnia ... so we're about even on that sort of info. Would i ever try to dig more up ... nah, simply got better things to do and a tad more respect than to go down that route.
Lockdown, Brexit, partygate .... social media is a cesspit of intolerance, depending on which view you take of life. I try to stay away, life's too short for that nonsense.
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Most people disagree at some point, no problem with that but little digs, starting threads just have a pop at someone, continual comments, lies, abuse etc, there just isn't any place for in a forum, if you want that forum to be healthy.
Spilling over into trying to create repetitional damage for someone online should be considered a crime. The impact of these things can be not inconsiderable, especially in an age where people get outraged so quickly, jump on bandwagons and normally with only one side of a story.
I'm relatively open about myself, name, where I live, profession, family and that's because I trust the people in the forum, the moment that trust disappears then the value of the forum disappears and I've discussed this a few times with admins when things were at their worst (fake accounts, calling my neighbours, calling my wife's work etc).
If I sense someone is going down that road even if its early stages, then they're filtered, thats' it, but to make spurious claims that I filter just because someone disagrees with me, well, you're a perfect example of that simply being a lie, a lie designed to influence other people negatively about me and it's wrong and I will call it out.
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lol ... we've disagreed for sure .....
posted on 16/8/22
Mattyp, so I can't refer to a post 12 months previously, but it's okay for you to go back 3 year's. Hypocrite.
Also the venom and hate you spout is there for all to see.
posted on 16/8/22
Jonty, wasn't referring to you mate.
posted on 16/8/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 46 minutes ago
Mattyp, so I can't refer to a post 12 months previously, but it's okay for you to go back 3 year's. Hypocrite.
Also the venom and hate you spout is there for all to see.
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I literally have no idea what you are on about. You are not allowed to go back to posts from a year ago?
What does that even mean?
And its very interesting that you say its there for all to see, yet on that thread, which you lied about being made because of my abusive posts not one person agree with you that I am abusive.
Odd that...