Anti royal protestor led away

One argument to keep the monarchy is all the global influence and international good will that it inspires.

The next comment we are told that it's very limited in its power to influence even the most important things.

A bit hypocritical.

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A man who's never had to* do the simplest of tasks, such as applying toothpaste to his own toothbrush, is now our Head of State.
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Yeah that's how privilege works.
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The sheep.
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Oh I'm not saying I like it. But that's the reality of it.

Like I say, if you can come up with a genuinely good reason to remove the royals and an actual alternative let's have a discussion.
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People have different thresholds I guess. For me even having a pampered lottery of birth family with a king that has his shoelaces ironed is quite a good reason. Perhaps not the same for you which is fair enough. Each to his own.
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With all due respect, that's a silly reason to suggest changing the way the UK is governed. Like, you don't actually care if they're doing good things for the country or not because of how they got there?

There's definitely good reasons to get rid of them and definitely good alternatives out there. However it's really not as simple as (or shouldn't be at least) 'I don't like this so get rid of it' because that's what gets you in trouble. See the immigrant-motivated Brexit voters.

2-0bat HT. Sancho and Ronaldo penalty. And done under Charles's watch.

I'm not going to do it now, and anyway it deserves an article of its own.
How morals and ethics differed in the past, and if they should have done.

comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matte... (U1282)
posted 6 hours, 6 minutes ago
One argument to keep the monarchy is all the global influence and international good will that it inspires.

The next comment we are told that it's very limited in its power to influence even the most important things.

A bit hypocritical.
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It's not really hypocrisy - both are true. They can be important symbolically without having influence on the day to day running of the country.

Conversely, 'they don't do anything, we have to get rid of them' is probably more valid. While it doesn't make sense to remove the monarchy based on your personal dislike of them, if you can demonstrate the majority of people don't see value there, that's a different discussion.

That includes at home and abroad. Do we care what other nations think about us? I think we should. The 'soft power' to convince other nations to come along with us in what we want to achieve is hugely valuable.

Of course we could gamble on getting rid of the monarchy strengthening our reputation overseas but without a really well thought out succession plan etc you risk creating chaos and losing those figureheads for no apparent gain.

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comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matte... (U1282)
posted 6 hours, 6 minutes ago
One argument to keep the monarchy is all the global influence and international good will that it inspires.

The next comment we are told that it's very limited in its power to influence even the most important things.

A bit hypocritical.
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It's not really hypocrisy - both are true. They can be important symbolically without having influence on the day to day running of the country.

Conversely, 'they don't do anything, we have to get rid of them' is probably more valid. While it doesn't make sense to remove the monarchy based on your personal dislike of them, if you can demonstrate the majority of people don't see value there, that's a different discussion.

That includes at home and abroad. Do we care what other nations think about us? I think we should. The 'soft power' to convince other nations to come along with us in what we want to achieve is hugely valuable.

Of course we could gamble on getting rid of the monarchy strengthening our reputation overseas but without a really well thought out succession plan etc you risk creating chaos and losing those figureheads for no apparent gain.
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"Important symbolically" What does that even mean?

"your personal dislike of them" Is that what you've gathered from this discussion? That the argument is that the monarchy should go because of personal dislike? That's very stupid of you to say and this discussion has been a waste of time if that's the case.

That includes at home and abroad. Do we care what other nations think about us? I think we should. The 'soft power' to convince other nations to come along with us in what we want to achieve is hugely valuable.
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How does the monarchy contribute to that?

Either they have the power to do this or they don't. What are some examples of their soft power at work? You can't go around claiming soft power one minute and then claiming they're powerless the next.

Calling me stupid when you can't comprehend what I've written? Yeah we're done. Have a good one.

I said you claiming I want the monarchy gone because of personal dislike is stupid. That's not the same as calling you stupid. Learn to read.

And you still have the nerve to say I don't comprehend what you've written when its you that clearly has comprehension problems. That's also very stupid.

Back in 1993 I went to Buckingham Palace with my gf as it was the first time it had opened up to the public. Just a load of rooms with posh furniture

Cost about £6.50 at the time. It was a nice experience although the souvenirs at the palace were well over priced £45 for a desk tidy.

Had to use toilets outside which was disappointing

I see those heavyweight political commentators, Jedward have thrown their weight behind the anti-monarchy lobby