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Poovertz

Is he our biggest flop of all time even surpassing Torres?

Cost nearly a third as much as Torres
More starts than Torres
Also arguably played in more offensive / attacking teams

Yet has been absolute Fackin dross and lives off that CL Goal

Stats below but Havertz would have played more minutes and got more starts

Havertz 29 goals 15 assists in 121 games
Torres 45 goals 35 assists in 172 games

What do you think, Rather have Poovertz or the Chelsea Torres? Least the Chelsea Torres actually tried and made stuff happen

posted on 12/2/23

Havertz is not a striker ffs, and been played out of position in a disjointed team.

There are dozens others. before you’d even consider him as a flop. Pound for pound Torres wins this contest hands down Imo.

posted on 12/2/23

comment by Turbulence Time (U20893)
posted 39 minutes ago
Havertz is not a striker ffs, and been played out of position in a disjointed team.

There are dozens others. before you’d even consider him as a flop. Pound for pound Torres wins this contest hands down Imo.
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To be honest I never thought Havertz was a striker? Sure he played elsewhere, more wide previously did he not?

posted on 12/2/23

He can play anywhere in the attacking midfield. He wasn’t brought in as a striker

posted on 12/2/23

comment by Turbulence Time (U20893)
posted 7 minutes ago
He can play anywhere in the attacking midfield. He wasn’t brought in as a striker
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Cheers thats what I thought, doing what he can for me the team but maybe as it's not his natural position he could be cut a bit of a break?

posted on 12/2/23

"for the team"

posted on 13/2/23

comment by Turbulence Time (U20893)
posted 19 hours, 19 minutes ago
He can play anywhere in the attacking midfield. He wasn’t brought in as a striker
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No he can't. he can't seem to play anywhere. He's played across the attacking mid positions and been equally as abysmal.

posted on 13/2/23

Torres got about 4 managers fired

Hated Morata’s whiny body language. Hot Mrs though

posted on 13/2/23

I don't think Havertz is the biggest flop we've ever had, albeit he has generally been a bit poor and hasn't consistently reached the levels we'd hoped. I'd hope we cash in during the summer. I don't really see how he fits into our team, as he's not a striker but I don't see enough of anything else he offers...just a bit laboured on the ball.

I always forgave Torres' poor return due to his attitude. Same with Werner (who was very effective at everything apart from scoring goals for us, still think he improved our team). Morata and Lukaku annoyed me more as they were lazy and whiny and didn't seem to care.

Other flop to add to the debate - Danny Drinkwater. Goes under the radar but we spent £35m on him to basically never play.

posted on 14/2/23

I think Torres tried but his head went down during games and his apathy definitely affected team like Morata

Werner never gave up

posted on 4/6/23

Thoughts 4 months on?

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