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PUB QUIZ

Where has constantly sacking managers got us?

Where did sticking with Arteta get Arsenal?

How many seasons was Klopp in charge of the Scousers before they won the league?

How many seasons would it take us to ruin Di Zerbi?

Was losing to City that much of shock?

Other than leaving (you cheeky scamps), what is the one thing you would like to see ETH instigate to try and improve things?

posted on 29/10/23

comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 15 minutes ago
Nowhere
Maybe somewhere
Dunno someone look it up
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No
FACK OFF
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insightful

posted on 29/10/23

comment by H von H. (U16981)
posted 14 minutes ago
Perhaps he should put his best clogs on and kick a few of those lazy, egotistical asses !
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Razy lacism but i get the sentiment

posted on 29/10/23

comment by Sir William of Prunier (U22256)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb - Under Neon Loneliness (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
Arteta actually instilled a style of play in that Arsenal side quite quickly and people could see progress so it was worth sticking with him.

As for sacking managers - Spurs have been a sacking side ever since Poch and now they’ve finally found someone good. Same with Villa.

Sometimes you have to keep sacking until you find the right mix. We sacked many managers before we found SAF.
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Just imagine if we sacked SAF before he turned it around?
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Just imagine we’d not sacked Big Ron. There’s always examples of both sides of the argument but ultimately we should be seeing something to grab onto hopewise but nothing is really there. We’ve already lost 7 games this season and benefited from some very clutch moments like Wolves not getting a penalty, McT scoring twice in injury time to save us against Brentford and Onana saving a last second penalty in midweek.

Those moments show that we’re very much not in any sort of control and teams must love playing against us.

posted on 29/10/23

ETH has done nothing to justify staying.

Zidane in.

posted on 29/10/23

comment by Sir William of Prunier (U22256)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 40 seconds ago
After 18 months I wasn't expecting miracles of PL titles but I genuinely thought we'd have a decentish team by now that plays good football.

Sticking with managers isn't always the answer. Should Spurs have kept Nuno and Jose? Should Chelsea have kept Potter?

His transfers alone are enough of a reason to question his suitability for the job. The style of play, or lack of one, further compounds it.

I'd be amazed if he survives this season tbh.
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He has won a cup with us and won leagues with Ajax who are terrible without him btw... so that must give him more credit that Nuno. Players are still running for him so that differs from Jose and Conte and yeah Chelsea would be no worse off with Potter they are still poo now!
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Look at who we played in that cup run. All homes ties against teams we simply can't lose against. The only difficult game on paper was the final.

We need to stop giving him too much praise over the Carabao Cup. It was gifted to him on a plate.

posted on 29/10/23

ETH still doesn't even seem to know his best team, style or approach. Playing Bruno out wide right when everyone knows that's muck, for example.

For the money he's spent, that is 100% his team now, so to still not know how to get a tune out of it should be a worry to all Utd fans.

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 29/10/23

Have disagreed with the club's policy of hiring and firing so rapidly both before and after SAF - although it's reached pathetic proportions in the latter period.

It's completely unprofessional for a start.

Every one of those given the job - whether they were liked/favoured or not by the fans - were given nowhere near the amount of time required to dig out the requirements needed to return to, and maintain, the highest of standards that this club is most well known for. And most of them would have got closer to achieving that were they given the right amount of time, plus the right kind of advice and backing

The current set up at this club will take at least 5 years to stabilise.

The academy needs to be the first thing brought into the 21st century. Since the mid 90s it's produced nothing but a plethora of so many players that are lacking in so much of the basic requirements of team sports.

ETH does have a good coaching track record at doing just that, and needs to stay for that reason alone.

Then, finding the right kind of professional to work with them can be found among those plying their trade at lesser clubs. SAF picked the best from the top of their game at club's as diverse as NFFC, NUFC, LUFC, WHFC, EFC, THFC, AVFC. He even took a known cheat from AFC and a diver that made his name at LFC.

If United want to rebuild to compete in the EPL, then they have got to get back to doing that. Not suggesting all would come as willingly as they did under SAF but starting to become competitive will slowly alter that.

I don't want to have to endure another 26 year period of league stagnation and short term managers. I probably haven't got that much time left.

posted on 30/10/23

With Arsenal it was more than just backing a manager. Qenger stayed too long and when he left we totally restructured to a more continental structure, headed by Raul Sanllehi and Emery as boss. We also changed the profile of the team - bringing in a number of experienced "leaders". It didn't work and Emery was a bit of a fall guy in it all. We got rid of Emery, Raul and a lot of others and changed the structure again, with Josh Kroenke at the top and Edu and Arteta working very closely together. And they gave themselves time to rip up the Raul plan and start again.
It would take more than replacing a manager for United to replicate that.

posted on 30/10/23

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 12 minutes ago
With Arsenal it was more than just backing a manager. Qenger stayed too long and when he left we totally restructured to a more continental structure, headed by Raul Sanllehi and Emery as boss. We also changed the profile of the team - bringing in a number of experienced "leaders". It didn't work and Emery was a bit of a fall guy in it all. We got rid of Emery, Raul and a lot of others and changed the structure again, with Josh Kroenke at the top and Edu and Arteta working very closely together. And they gave themselves time to rip up the Raul plan and start again.
It would take more than replacing a manager for United to replicate that.
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The experts of 606 truly believe that starting again every 2 years and expecting different results is the way to go

posted on 30/10/23

comment by Sir William of Prunier (U22256)
posted 10 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by H von H. (U16981)
posted 14 minutes ago
Perhaps he should put his best clogs on and kick a few of those lazy, egotistical asses !
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Razy lacism but i get the sentiment
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Well i would advocate that too...wooden shoe...

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