Weekend Football

comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 13 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 33 minutes ago
The last indyref was close because the SNP were riding high on good approval ratings after a generally popular early stint in government. Given the caulk ups of recent years, the naivety of the Greens, and Salmond being a creep, the indy movement just doesn't have that credibility at the moment. That's what Salmond and the others calling for more focus on independence right now just don't get. We need credibility from focus on good governance, and the indy argument can follow on from that. Ultimately since at least the last election the SNP could be characterised as having generally good policies which they've executed terribly. I'm not sure if that's better or worse than bad policies executed well, but it's poison for the independence campaign.
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Do you actually think people who wanted independence suddenly become unionists?

The leader of a party doesn't change that.

It was the unsure voters than need convincing. Yes voting numbers won't drop
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The unionists told all the Scottish pensioners, they would lose their pensions if we got Indy, the BBC spouted the same pash. That was ten years ago.

I'm really surprised Scottish people haven't heard of Brexit, or record inflation, cost of living crisis, Liz Truss, Boris Johnston et al. If they'd had of heard of these absolute shambles, they would've probably lost confidence in the carpet bagging Tories and start voting for Independence...
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I simply don’t understand the argument that because of Brexit you should vote independence, independence would be 100 times worse. Would set the country back as a poorer nation for 25 years even going by the SNP economists.

And the idea that Truss, Boris etc should be an argument for independence, the suggestion Scottish politicians are any better is a strange one going on evidence.

People painting independence as a simple decision is mental. Strong idealogical arguments for it, but in practice it would be a shiite show in the short term, being our lifetimes, at the minimum.

It’s the same arguments on repeat, and part of the reason the SNP hasn’t won over voters who could be swayed is they still don’t have good or consistent answers to big questions like currency and when we could, or how we’d rejoin the EU.

The currency question should be resolved by saying we will use the pound until we use the Euro.

Don't know why the Euro is viewed negatively against the pound when it's been outperforming it for years.

Europe would take Scotland in but the party leading Scotland would need to go to them ahead of a referendum and agree on a plan and then publicise it. Much would depend on the contents of that.

Europe would take Scotland in but the party leading Scotland would need to go to them ahead of a referendum and agree on a plan and then publicise it
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these are the kind of plans that need to be investigated prior to an referendum, "we could" doesn't convince me that they know.

I think we would have faired better with sturgeon walking into a debate in that regard, f...ing salmond last time, first question "what is project fear Alastair"

waste of a question.

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 11 minutes ago
Europe would take Scotland in but the party leading Scotland would need to go to them ahead of a referendum and agree on a plan and then publicise it
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these are the kind of plans that need to be investigated prior to an referendum, "we could" doesn't convince me that they know.

I think we would have faired better with sturgeon walking into a debate in that regard, f...ing salmond last time, first question "what is project fear Alastair"

waste of a question.
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They’ve peddled different ideas on currency, some of the more recent ideas they’ve put out there would prevent us joining EU. A mess considering how long they’ve had.

Bring back the bawbee.

comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 56 minutes ago
Bring back the bawbee.
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The big wan or the wee wan?

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 13 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 33 minutes ago
The last indyref was close because the SNP were riding high on good approval ratings after a generally popular early stint in government. Given the caulk ups of recent years, the naivety of the Greens, and Salmond being a creep, the indy movement just doesn't have that credibility at the moment. That's what Salmond and the others calling for more focus on independence right now just don't get. We need credibility from focus on good governance, and the indy argument can follow on from that. Ultimately since at least the last election the SNP could be characterised as having generally good policies which they've executed terribly. I'm not sure if that's better or worse than bad policies executed well, but it's poison for the independence campaign.
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Do you actually think people who wanted independence suddenly become unionists?

The leader of a party doesn't change that.

It was the unsure voters than need convincing. Yes voting numbers won't drop
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The unionists told all the Scottish pensioners, they would lose their pensions if we got Indy, the BBC spouted the same pash. That was ten years ago.

I'm really surprised Scottish people haven't heard of Brexit, or record inflation, cost of living crisis, Liz Truss, Boris Johnston et al. If they'd had of heard of these absolute shambles, they would've probably lost confidence in the carpet bagging Tories and start voting for Independence...
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I simply don’t understand the argument that because of Brexit you should vote independence, independence would be 100 times worse. Would set the country back as a poorer nation for 25 years even going by the SNP economists.

And the idea that Truss, Boris etc should be an argument for independence, the suggestion Scottish politicians are any better is a strange one going on evidence.

People painting independence as a simple decision is mental. Strong idealogical arguments for it, but in practice it would be a shiite show in the short term, being our lifetimes, at the minimum.

It’s the same arguments on repeat, and part of the reason the SNP hasn’t won over voters who could be swayed is they still don’t have good or consistent answers to big questions like currency and when we could, or how we’d rejoin the EU.
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Boring boring boring

comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 56 minutes ago
Bring back the bawbee.
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The big wan or the wee wan?
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I've said it before about currency - it is just a token, a promissory note to make transactions easier. I don't care who's head is notionally on it nor what it is called, no emotion. Yes, there are some concerns over who's economy it is tied to viz. rate decisions but that is 100% no different to the situation we are already in!

Independence would be no different to Brexit with us feeling the wrath, bitterness and obstinance of the larger partner who will no negotiate prior to any vote because to do so would legitimise it. So, it will always be a leap in the dark. No share of the UK assets means no share of the debt either and ram your Trident & Coulport unless you wanna negotiate.

Initially, we may well be set back financially especially by lily livered, lazy PLCs taking the easy option to risk avoidance. Any new gov should set out it's plan to prevent that. Unfortunately, UK is already feeling the gravitational pull of the USA who will resist global taxation legislation long mooted.

UK is a sh*t show. London and the SE has been allowed to grow too much to appease the chatterers at the expense of overall growth and now things are coming to a head. They raped the oil money until it has almost run out and the same is happening with the financial centre. Now the lazy cants are staring at oblivion unless they do something hard and find ways to generate new private enterprises to pay for services.

fun few week for hearts fans i'd imagine.

starting with saturday, "we'll do our best for you guys, i promise we'll try really hard, but see if we win, see the last day of the season can you come and sit with me at tynecastle, maybe come and meet my mum, i'll get her to make cripsy pancakes for dinner but only if you like crispy pancakes"

freaks.