Sorry, this is quite a long explanation but I think the context contained is extremely insightful🤔
Nedum Onuoha
BBC Sport Columnist Has busted the myth about injuries at Spurs and other clubs.
Whenever clubs suffer an injury crisis, it feels to me as if people often decide what is causing it without actually showing anything that backs it up.
Tottenham Hotspur are probably the best example of some of the myths that exist around this subject at the moment.
Although they are far from being the only Premier League club to have several players sidelined at the same time, Ange Postecoglou's playing style, training methods and selection decisions are widely assumed to have been a major cause of their issues.
My concern about focusing on those aspects is that people are not considering the perspectives of the actual people involved - the manager, the medical staff and the players themselves.
All three will have a very different mindset when it comes to managing injuries, and will be feeling different pressures that affect their decisions.
More than anything else, that is what has led to the kind of scenario we are seeing at Spurs.
I am certainly not against using data, as a broad term, to help explain why injuries happen - as long as it is relevant.
There are times, however, where people seem to want to use a subconscious bias to decide why something is happening. In the case of Spurs, it has been suggested their players get injured because Postecoglou makes them run around too much.
Historically, when I think about teams who have played with a high intensity, and sustained it over multiple seasons, then Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool instantly stand out. Not only were they successful, they were not known for suffering multiple injuries that derailed them the way it has happened at Spurs.
I am not even sure Tottenham's style is that demanding anyway. People seem to have made their minds up about that, without watching them that closely.
Is it their centre-backs or full-backs being asked to get forward into midfield that is meant to be causing them to break down? Because we have seen plenty of other teams doing the same without the same issues, including Celtic's defenders when Postecoglou was manager.
Injuries Cause Myth
posted on 31/1/25
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Meanwhile Villa, only in the CL for the first time this year, are looking at Tel, Joao Felix and Marco Asensio.
When did we ever act like that? Seriously? We had CL for five straight feckin years and never saw recruitment on that level.
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Looking at and actually buying are two different things. Villa have also just flogged one of their two main strikers.
posted on 31/1/25
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
Meanwhile Villa, only in the CL for the first time this year, are looking at Tel, Joao Felix and Marco Asensio.
When did we ever act like that? Seriously? We had CL for five straight feckin years and never saw recruitment on that level.
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Have they signed them?
Looking at them great …..you will have a point when they get them
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Fridge as usual overhyping every team except the team he says he supports.
I swear some of our supporters are only happy when Spurs lose.
posted on 31/1/25
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 8 minutes ago
We are all annoyed at Enic and levy for their lack of support to Ange at this point but the club is not facked
We have probably the best core of youngsters we have ever had at one time (certainly in my life time)
Kinskey, VDV, vuskovic (summer) , Spence , kulu, gray, bergvall, Johnson, Moore….these aren’t just average players
I remember the days of getting excited about the likes of Rory Allen
We have a very young talented bunch of players
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Johnson?? You’re having a laugh.
There are some decent young players and some massively overhyped as usual. Aside from VDV and Kulu - which of the others would get in the Villa or Newcastle sides?
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You are just very down on spurs at the moment and that’s your choice
But if you think villa and Newcastle wouldnt want gray, bergvall and Moore in their squads you just aren’t thinking clearly …these are not over hyped players
Johnson I admit divides opinion but there is a player there ….its getting him consistent
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I love the club, but I’m a realist. This is the lowest I have felt about the club in my 35 years of supporting them.
The squad has more holes than your average porrrn movie.
The chairman is the biggest khunt on the planet
The manager is horribly ill suited to the league
BJ - good at running on to chances and finishing them off but can’t beat a man, doesn’t have a killer pass, little physical presence. He is an average player.
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FFS Strike just go and support another team. You are just about the most negative supporter on the board. Nothing about Spurs pleases you.
posted on 31/1/25
Oh shut up Sandy. No one has got time for your faux positivity. You were allowed to biiiitch and moan back in 2019 over and over again. Forgive us if we want to whine in a more justified way at the absolute carnage that this club has become in 2025.
posted on 31/1/25
Both of you shutup. It's either 'everything is sheit' or 'everything is great' over simplified reactionary nonsense or just plain wumming
posted on 31/1/25
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
Both of you shutup. It's either 'everything is sheit' or 'everything is great' over simplified reactionary nonsense or just plain wumming
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He started it 😂
posted on 31/1/25
Another factor for injuries across is VAR. Although it's somewhat improved this season, I recall last season all teams in the prem were seeing hamstring injuries. I believe this was due to the stop/start nature of VAR checks. Players were going from 100%, to suddenly standing around for 5 minutes, then back to 100% energy. Not saying it's the main reason, but it's certainly a factor in my opinion.
posted on 31/1/25
This thread is hilarious!
I'm saying nothing till after the Brentford game.
posted on 1/2/25
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 9 hours, 35 minutes ago
Both of you shutup. It's either 'everything is sheit' or 'everything is great' over simplified reactionary nonsense or just plain wumming
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Fair point. But sorry if I am upsetting you for actually supporting Spurs and wanting then to do well.
posted on 1/2/25
It’s no myth.