I can only assume they must be.
Otherwise what's causing the neurons in their brains to misfire so heavily that they are more focused on insulting strangers online when their factually incorrect opinions are disproven than accepting the truth that by defending these owners they are contributing to holding Arsenal football business (formerly Arsenal football club) back.
Apparently attempting to validate ridiculous beliefs they are holding on to is more important than us ever winning a major trophy again. Some of these customers are so narcissistic and sick in the head that their egos can't allow themselves to admit they are wrong and have been for a very long time - even online, for the sake of making us a football club again. They'd rather deflect with instant insults and lies, how sad and pathetic their lives must be for this to be how they make themselves feel better when we lose and fail yet again.
If that's you then give yourself a pat on the back, great job being another one of the Kroenke's customers! Or great job protecting your vile journalistic / social media relationship with the club because you are on the payroll or get a few perks out of it - you're not real fans, you're actual vermin with your toxic false positivity.
If you don't fall into any of those categories and you're still unable to perceive reality then frankly you're gullible, and you've fallen for all the PR of the aforementioned cosy fake-fan journalists and top gooners, many of whose accounts are clearly run by our world class PR & marketing department - the only world class element we have left although the half of that which reads: "class" is anything but, it's vile and shameless.
If you are a real fan and you've not been brainwashed with the lies then you'll be well aware of the facts and the truth that it's completely irrelevant whether a manager has been permitted to spend £750m over the course of 5+ years and there's an endless list of reasons as to why:
1) Let's clear this one up straight away - that's cash the club has generated, not injections from the owners. You know, those injections we so desperately needed season after season for over two decades but never got.
2) Considering the lack of spending and investment for so long which left our squad in such a horrendous depleted state that we dropped out of the Champions League and started sliding down the table, £750m over 5 years is not even close to what is required or warranted, in fact, over the longer-arch of underinvestment, it's peanuts.
3) The Kroenkes have invested less than £20m/season on average over the last two decades, pocket money to them given their current net worth exceeds $17 billion and that's not even mentioning the fact that Stan is married to Ann Walton, an heiress to Walmart worth $13 billion. That's at least $30 billion between them.
4) When you refuse to hire a world class manager or world class staff to support him (and in fact hire a total novice) then permit those staff to spend money - a lot of it is going to get wasted, as we've witnessed and so what if these staff finally splashed a bit of cash? That's cash the club has generated itself after we'd been starved for so long. What kind of lunatic would pat the Kroenkes on the back for that unless they were on the payroll and out to defend them - utterly pathetic and idiotic line of argumentation. It's actually hilariously embarrassing how some of our customers think they are intelligent or enlightened defending the Kroenkes on this when in fact they are clearly nothing but braindead or brainwashed on the matter.
5) Not only did they make an apprentice manager of Arsenal, they rewarded him for failure after failure by making him the second highest paid manager in the Premier League on £15m/year - falling just short of Pep Guardiola and double what the elite Carlo Ancelotti; a world class, serial winner is earning at the biggest most successful club in the world.
6) Even more infuriatingly, every transfer window, we've failed to find those final pieces of the jigsaw to get us over the line by stumping up the cash required for one or two top players - even when we've been so close. Remind you of anything? Like all those seasons under Wenger which were exactly the f**king same story? That doesn't happen with good owners.
7) The owners are more focused on spinning PR about PSR to mug their gullible customers off. PR that has been proven to be complete nonsense and lies as loads of other clubs continue to ignore this stuff and face absolutely no repercussions. But no, we must abide by it! Just another excuse for not doing what is required in the transfer market.
Are half of our customer-base on crack?
posted on 23/2/25
Causally forgetting the money pumped in during previous 11 years… years during which the Arsenal board - KSE and Usmanov - spent none of their own money, and we had to sell our best players every summer to pay off the stadium.
Which we built.
And then aid for ourselves.
Come back to the conversation when your club has built and paid for yours.
posted on 23/2/25
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 3 minutes ago
Causally forgetting the money pumped in during previous 11 years… years during which the Arsenal board - KSE and Usmanov - spent none of their own money, and we had to sell our best players every summer to pay off the stadium.
Which we built.
And then aid for ourselves.
Come back to the conversation when your club has built and paid for yours.
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That will be in about 12 months when the North Stand extension is finished. That'll take City's spending on the Etihad to over £750m.
posted on 23/2/25
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
The OP has too much spare time available.
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What a silly comment.
You spend half of your life on this site whereas I'm rarely here and it took me all of about 10-15 minutes to write this article.
But if insulting me is more important than us winning a major trophy to you then that's your prerogative.
posted on 23/2/25
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 hours, 53 minutes ago
Ah so you want an owner that buys success by channeling hundreds of millions through dodgy means City style rather than the club being in any way self sustainable?
Fair enough, the Kroenke's aren't doing that.
Ideally clubs would be owned by supporters, self sustaining - with good management on and off the field the way to success but unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. Instead you get different types of billionaires with different motives. Parasitic ones like the Glazer's, comedy ones like Clearlake, ultra business first like Enic, sports washing cheaters, competent spongers like Fenway and whatever the Kroenke's are, I'd say less competent but also far less sponges (to date) than the Fenway group.
You probably should just go support City if you will only settle for owners that are going to pump squillions in through any means possible in order to guarantee success.
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Ah so you failed to take in the majority of this article.
Liverpool are one example who have proven you can win major trophies by hiring the right staff - even if your owners are tight with their money.
Over two decades of neglect and you think this is just about their lack of personal investment. No obviously not as was made abundantly clear, that's part of it though and proves their complete lack of ambition when they have the cash to move like Man City if they wanted to.
posted on 23/2/25
comment by Worlds Biggest Bottlers (U22980)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Is this article a dig at DJ ?
He has often filtered and un filtered me.
Your article sounds like what Lee Gunner has been saying for the last 5 years
We need owners like Abramovich who actually cared about what was going on on the pitch and he would pull the trigger when not happy.An owner like him but without the dodgy dealings.
The Kroenke's need to tell Arteta "Win a major trophy next season or your gone ".
Unfortunately that will never happen as they are happy with the profits generated through CL qualifications.
So it will be more of the same to come with Arsenal winning nothing and Liverpool, Man City winning titles and Man Utd winning cups despite for league form
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DegenerateJoke is not worth the time to write articles about, after giving him the benefit of the doubt for years it's me who filtered him yesterday after he came at me with insults and the generic Kroenke defence on my article and from that point forward I decided never to waste my time reading a single word of his foolishness again, this is aimed at anyone who fits and that's still around half of the fanbase by my reckoning.
Agree with your post - most crucially we need owners who care and who are around to support more than once every twenty years when the financials take a hit.
posted on 23/2/25
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 3 minutes ago
Causally forgetting the money pumped in during previous 11 years… years during which the Arsenal board - KSE and Usmanov - spent none of their own money, and we had to sell our best players every summer to pay off the stadium.
Which we built.
And then aid for ourselves.
Come back to the conversation when your club has built and paid for yours.
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That will be in about 12 months when the North Stand extension is finished. That'll take City's spending on the Etihad to over £750m.
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So a phased redevelopment/refurbishment rather than a complete build from scratch.
posted on 23/2/25
comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
The OP has too much spare time available.
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What a silly comment.
You spend half of your life on this site whereas I'm rarely here and it took me all of about 10-15 minutes to write this article.
But if insulting me is more important than us winning a major trophy to you then that's your prerogative.
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You know really nothing about me. And where have I insult you?
Thta's said I think you are a massive pleb.
posted on 23/2/25
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
The OP has too much spare time available.
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What a silly comment.
You spend half of your life on this site whereas I'm rarely here and it took me all of about 10-15 minutes to write this article.
But if insulting me is more important than us winning a major trophy to you then that's your prerogative.
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You know really nothing about me. And where have I insult you?
Thta's said I think you are a massive pleb.
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Too much spare time is a thinly veiled insult, only a pleb wouldn't be aware of that but you're a pleb that's well aware of what you meant by that.
I'd say: "pot kettle" with regards to your spare time comment but I'm not even close to a kettle in that regard and if I am, you are one giant whopper of a pot.
posted on 23/2/25
The term 'customer-base' tells its own story about the modern game.
posted on 23/2/25
comment by This Charming Fan (Why pamper life's comp... (U11214)
posted 42 minutes ago
The term 'customer-base' tells its own story about the modern game.
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This is true and a sad story indeed.