Gary Neville

"Your explanation now seems to be 'they're racist, so of course their policies are racist'

Of course you don't you contrarian bore

I'm not interested in your whataboutery on Labour thanks

"I am not familiar with the ins and outs of Reform policy"

But you're going to tell people it's not racist

The man that lied about migrants eating swans is on about mass deportations and removal by force and you don't think it's racist.

Okay Dev if you say so

comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
Interestingly, Starmer as a lawyer will know full well the importance of careful use of words so it was interesting g to see him say Yes when asked...
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which as a lawyer is probably why he was carefully and happy to say it. Dont you think.
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Dev knows better though

Do you find anything that Farage and TR say as interestingly suspicious, clumsy and damning like you seem to find in what Starmer says?

"That said, the view of the French politicians for example is that people make that crossing risk their lives because our policies are soft and generous."

Who are you quoting here?

"Interestingly, Starmer as a lawyer will know full well the importance of careful use of words so it was interesting g to see him say Yes when asked...a nice headline for the journo but I think if that statement was challenged in a legal setting he may well find it difficult support it"

Don't tell me, with all your legal experience

You don't half come out with some arrogant shiite, yet to see anything to back it up though

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12987533/Top-French-politicians-blast-Britain-soft-tackling-migrants-mayor-seaside-town-calling-UK-El-Dorado-illegal-immigrants.html

But stop calling me right wing he bleats

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 hours, 8 minutes ago
Do the ones that believe it's about racism think the British public would have no problem with it if it were white immigrants coming into the country en masse and being put up in hotels and causing certain societal problems?
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100% it would be different.

I take issue with your comment of ‘causing certain societal problems’ as well. What the fack does that mean?

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 hours, 8 minutes ago
Do the ones that believe it's about racism think the British public would have no problem with it if it were white immigrants coming into the country en masse and being put up in hotels and causing certain societal problems?
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100% it would be different.

I take issue with your comment of ‘causing certain societal problems’ as well. What the fack does that mean?
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The much documented problems regarding grooming and raping. Yes I'm not saying they are all responsible or that nothing like this ever occurs among British people already here either before you start. But this will be one of the issues that is angering people protesting against them coming to the country.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 hours, 8 minutes ago
Do the ones that believe it's about racism think the British public would have no problem with it if it were white immigrants coming into the country en masse and being put up in hotels and causing certain societal problems?
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100% it would be different.

I take issue with your comment of ‘causing certain societal problems’ as well. What the fack does that mean?
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The much documented problems regarding grooming and raping. Yes I'm not saying they are all responsible or that nothing like this ever occurs among British people already here either before you start. But this will be one of the issues that is angering people protesting against them coming to the country.
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This may sound patronising, but I’m really disappointed to hear someone like you say that.

That’s not become a societal issue from immigrants, and it’s straight out of the right wing playbook. Nothing at all to back that up.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 hours, 8 minutes ago
Do the ones that believe it's about racism think the British public would have no problem with it if it were white immigrants coming into the country en masse and being put up in hotels and causing certain societal problems?
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100% it would be different.

I take issue with your comment of ‘causing certain societal problems’ as well. What the fack does that mean?
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The much documented problems regarding grooming and raping. Yes I'm not saying they are all responsible or that nothing like this ever occurs among British people already here either before you start. But this will be one of the issues that is angering people protesting against them coming to the country.
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This may sound patronising, but I’m really disappointed to hear someone like you say that.

That’s not become a societal issue from immigrants, and it’s straight out of the right wing playbook. Nothing at all to back that up.
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I love the phrase "not all are" like somehow it's the majority. Why not say a very tiny minority which is what it actually is, as all the stats show that by proportion and demographics, immigrants commit less s3xually related offences than the native population.