Good To See Proud Ulsterman...

Anways, for tonight. Come on Ireland!!!!!!!

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FRANCO:
"You seem to believe a lot of 26 county Irish people want some sort of unity with the UK..." >>>>>>>>>> WRONG! You're misquoting me. I do hope its not deliberate. Look at my post above again -- you will see I clearly use the words, "a certain SMALL number of people in the ROI"(line 2). Yes I have brought up this point before, but I have never claimed such people to be anything more than a relatively small group. I was simply trying to answer the question you had posed earlier.

"........look back at things like the 1798 rebellion, many of the leaders were Protestant." >>>>>>>>>> Glad to see you, at least, know something about Prod history. However, I fear you've been fed the standard and essentially misleading old line that "some of the leaders were Protestant". This highlights the role of essentially ascendancy figures like Tone, Emmet, etc. who were usually from the South, but totally ignores the role and struggle of a whole race of people in the North!

The Ulster Rebellion of 1798 was an almost exclusively Prod. affair. The very few Catholics from the Defenders organisation who did "come out", either refused to fight(eg. Ballinahinch) or ran away when things got hot(eg. Antrim). During the rebellion Catholics acquired a name as informers. Two famous rebels, Tam Archer and Roger "Roddy" McCorley were both betrayed by Catholic "friends". The Ulster Rebellion was a very bloody affair and 100s of ordinary Protestants died in it. Their large, often unmarked, mass graves can still be seen at places like Ballinahinch today -- "Alexander Wilson; Volunteer, Died The Year of Liberty 1798; Aged 16 years." These were people with little in common with the Tones and Emmets you have been told about -- all good well bred "Dublin Boys" after all. These were largely poor Protestant fishermen, factory workers and farm boys. They didnt have any rich daddies! They belonged to a race of people guided by a genuinely radical idea who carried on an almost simultaneous fight against the British Crown on both sides of the Atlantic for about 30 years! -- The Scots-Irish.

The Scots-Irish or Ulster Scots led the fight for American Independence during the 1780s and then led the struggle for "Libertie, Egalitie, Fraternitie" in Ireland later during the 1790s. Both these countries owe the ORDINARY Scots-Irish of Ulster a debt which they are still largely unaware of. Instead we have to put up with Spanish American weirdos and others, often with very English sounding, non Keltic names, telling us that we are not really Irish! Or attempting to demonise in some other way. What a joke!

The rest of your post I basically agree with. Glad to hear you dont vote for terrorists, I dont either. The important thing is to shun violence at every turn and grow to genuinely know and respect each other! Violence in OUR situation is for fanatics, neurotics; bitter people with warped emotions and limited intelligence. It offers us NOTHING, but more violence and suffering!

It is possible to be an Nationalist, but still support NI! I know several.
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Of course you do Walter Mitty. Pining for Irish unification one day, belting out GSTQ at Windsor Park the next.

Well CP the ROI is a foreign country to us Beal Ferste guys lol..............

CP:
Completely wide of the mark as usual CP! Perhaps you should just accept that some topics are a tad beyond your limited mental capacity. The nuances just a shade too delicate the reasoning just a smidgen too subtle. Better stick to your neanderthal verbal stone throwing pranks and let the adults get on with trying to sort things out!

Ok Walter, whatever you say. Sure give us another wee anecdote there that just happens to back up your point of view.

Shen you will find wakin up in the UK or the "six counties" as CP calls it really freaks him out lol.............

The important thing is to shun violence at every turn and grow to genuinely know and respect each other! Violence in OUR situation is for fanatics, neurotics; bitter people with warped emotions and limited intelligence. It offers us NOTHING, but more violence and suffering!
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Wise words shen.

Shen wouldn't know a football if you hit him full in the face with one.

He's so punchy you would have to use a sledgehammer just to get his attention.