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comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 14 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Ange already explained that he pretty much gave up on the league months ago so that Spurs could go all out for the EL and by doing so win a trophy and get CL football. Surely the stuff of dreams for Spurs fans and he achieved it.

There was a Spurs fan calling into Talksport today saying that the club need to change their to dare is to do moto because Ange dared and he did. And yet he still got sacked lol
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I think a lot of that is excuse making from him. Their form has been awful since they lost to us 1-4 last season. His early honeymoon period hides quite a lot.

78pts from 66 games or whatever it was - that's about 14th or 15th in the league level form maybe?

As for the EL win, that's nice sure, but that tournament's quality has nosedived once CL rejects weren't put in it. It was the worst final I've ever seen.

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Whether it was i wasn't excuse making he did what he said he was going to which was win a trophy in his second season at Spurs. He's on record as saying that and he fully delivered on it.

And we know that EL isn't as good as it was when CL teams dropped down, but that's a moot point in this context and nothing to do with Ange. What matters is that it delivers CL football to the winner and Ange knew Spurs were getting into the CL if they won it.

So Spurs's league position last season is essentially an utter irrelevance and that was the gamble that Ange took. He got into the CL and won a trophy that most Spurs fans could only dream of winning for the last few decades given their utter dearth of trophies.

But yeah Spurs are the only club who can be so hopelessly devoid of trophies in the PL and modern era but then sack the manager who delivers them their biggest trophy in decades and first trophy in nearly twenty years right after he wins it

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comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 14 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Ange already explained that he pretty much gave up on the league months ago so that Spurs could go all out for the EL and by doing so win a trophy and get CL football. Surely the stuff of dreams for Spurs fans and he achieved it.

There was a Spurs fan calling into Talksport today saying that the club need to change their to dare is to do moto because Ange dared and he did. And yet he still got sacked lol
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I think a lot of that is excuse making from him. Their form has been awful since they lost to us 1-4 last season. His early honeymoon period hides quite a lot.

78pts from 66 games or whatever it was - that's about 14th or 15th in the league level form maybe?

As for the EL win, that's nice sure, but that tournament's quality has nosedived once CL rejects weren't put in it. It was the worst final I've ever seen.

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Whether it was i wasn't excuse making he did what he said he was going to which was win a trophy in his second season at Spurs. He's on record as saying that and he fully delivered on it.

And we know that EL isn't as good as it was when CL teams dropped down, but that's a moot point in this context and nothing to do with Ange. What matters is that it delivers CL football to the winner and Ange knew Spurs were getting into the CL if they won it.

So Spurs's league position last season is essentially an utter irrelevance and that was the gamble that Ange took. He got into the CL and won a trophy that most Spurs fans could only dream of winning for the last few decades given their utter dearth of trophies.

But yeah Spurs are the only club who can be so hopelessly devoid of trophies in the PL and modern era but then sack the manager who delivers them their biggest trophy in decades and first trophy in nearly twenty years right after he wins it
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I am afraid I don't agree

Postecoglou can massage the bad form as much as he wants but Spurs have been terrible for 20 months

The Europa League is a much easier competition since it was revamped with no CL rejects in it, making the trade off much less impressive

And any serious DoF would care more about consistent league position because they want consistent CL football and 17th is alarmingly bad

We also have a very clear warning to DoFs that league form can't be ignored: Utd and Ten Hag

Anyway enough debating about Spurs lol, but yeah I dislike Levy but it was only credible decision imo

Spurs can immortalize his second tier trophy lol, Anges reputation is saved and they can find a manager who understands the PL better

Newcastle United are growing increasingly frustrated by rival clubs putting a ‘Saudi tax’ on transfers and refuse to be held to ransom over key targets.

Senior club sources believe a so-called “Saudi tax” has plagued the club since the takeover in October 2021.

(Telegraph)

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 14 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Ange already explained that he pretty much gave up on the league months ago so that Spurs could go all out for the EL and by doing so win a trophy and get CL football. Surely the stuff of dreams for Spurs fans and he achieved it.

There was a Spurs fan calling into Talksport today saying that the club need to change their to dare is to do moto because Ange dared and he did. And yet he still got sacked lol
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I think a lot of that is excuse making from him. Their form has been awful since they lost to us 1-4 last season. His early honeymoon period hides quite a lot.

78pts from 66 games or whatever it was - that's about 14th or 15th in the league level form maybe?

As for the EL win, that's nice sure, but that tournament's quality has nosedived once CL rejects weren't put in it. It was the worst final I've ever seen.

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Whether it was i wasn't excuse making he did what he said he was going to which was win a trophy in his second season at Spurs. He's on record as saying that and he fully delivered on it.

And we know that EL isn't as good as it was when CL teams dropped down, but that's a moot point in this context and nothing to do with Ange. What matters is that it delivers CL football to the winner and Ange knew Spurs were getting into the CL if they won it.

So Spurs's league position last season is essentially an utter irrelevance and that was the gamble that Ange took. He got into the CL and won a trophy that most Spurs fans could only dream of winning for the last few decades given their utter dearth of trophies.

But yeah Spurs are the only club who can be so hopelessly devoid of trophies in the PL and modern era but then sack the manager who delivers them their biggest trophy in decades and first trophy in nearly twenty years right after he wins it
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I am afraid I don't agree

Postecoglou can massage the bad form as much as he wants but Spurs have been terrible for 20 months

The Europa League is a much easier competition since it was revamped with no CL rejects in it, making the trade off much less impressive

And any serious DoF would care more about consistent league position because they want consistent CL football and 17th is alarmingly bad

We also have a very clear warning to DoFs that league form can't be ignored: Utd and Ten Hag

Anyway enough debating about Spurs lol, but yeah I dislike Levy but it was only credible decision imo

Spurs can immortalize his second tier trophy lol, Anges reputation is saved and they can find a manager who understands the PL better
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Nobody is denying that 17th in the league is really bad but Manchester United who are a much bigger club finished about there too and they've kept their manager despite him making them much worse than when he arrived and not winning a trophy lol.

As for Ange he was still voted PL manager of the year in his first season at Spurs. So he leaves with that accolade as well as being the first manager to win a trophy for Spurs in years in his second season and getting them CL football in the process.

Those are the things that will be remembered in future seasons and if Spurs now revert to type and fail to win any trophies in the coming years it will only make this decision to sack Ange look even more comical 🐔.

Superb, imagine this was us or any other club that likes to take themselves seriously? Would winning the Europa League compensate for that horrific PL season & an overall record of more loses than wins in 18 months on the job?

I can understand Spurs fans feeling conflicted about this, they're like incels who just got some touch, but I can't understand why any non-Spurs fan could thinking that wasn't the right decision unless they're on the wind up?

comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted 47 minutes ago
Newcastle United are growing increasingly frustrated by rival clubs putting a ‘Saudi tax’ on transfers and refuse to be held to ransom over key targets.

Senior club sources believe a so-called “Saudi tax” has plagued the club since the takeover in October 2021.

(Telegraph)
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Welcome to the party pal

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
Superb, imagine this was us or any other club that likes to take themselves seriously? Would winning the Europa League compensate for that horrific PL season & an overall record of more loses than wins in 18 months on the job?

I can understand Spurs fans feeling conflicted about this, they're like incels who just got some touch, but I can't understand why any non-Spurs fan could thinking that wasn't the right decision unless they're on the wind up?
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Take themselves seriously?? This is Spurs we're talking about here. Everything they do is comedy gold lol.

comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
Superb, imagine this was us or any other club that likes to take themselves seriously? Would winning the Europa League compensate for that horrific PL season & an overall record of more loses than wins in 18 months on the job?

I can understand Spurs fans feeling conflicted about this, they're like incels who just got some touch, but I can't understand why any non-Spurs fan could thinking that wasn't the right decision unless they're on the wind up?
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Take themselves seriously?? This is Spurs we're talking about here. Everything they do is comedy gold lol.
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Levy has to do what he thinks is best for Spurs, and Ange was clearly not good enough. Stubborn tactician (the Europa final showed this), and cooked under what was moderate press heat at best.

I'm gutted. Cos Levy's had his identity crisis, lerching between both extreme ends of the boring/exciting football spectrum, he's probably gunna make a decent, balanced appointment now. If he'd have kept Ange, he would've got fired at some point this season & he'd likely have made another rash & impulsive decision.

Osimhen gone to Saudi?

comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 14 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Ange already explained that he pretty much gave up on the league months ago so that Spurs could go all out for the EL and by doing so win a trophy and get CL football. Surely the stuff of dreams for Spurs fans and he achieved it.

There was a Spurs fan calling into Talksport today saying that the club need to change their to dare is to do moto because Ange dared and he did. And yet he still got sacked lol
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I think a lot of that is excuse making from him. Their form has been awful since they lost to us 1-4 last season. His early honeymoon period hides quite a lot.

78pts from 66 games or whatever it was - that's about 14th or 15th in the league level form maybe?

As for the EL win, that's nice sure, but that tournament's quality has nosedived once CL rejects weren't put in it. It was the worst final I've ever seen.

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Whether it was i wasn't excuse making he did what he said he was going to which was win a trophy in his second season at Spurs. He's on record as saying that and he fully delivered on it.

And we know that EL isn't as good as it was when CL teams dropped down, but that's a moot point in this context and nothing to do with Ange. What matters is that it delivers CL football to the winner and Ange knew Spurs were getting into the CL if they won it.

So Spurs's league position last season is essentially an utter irrelevance and that was the gamble that Ange took. He got into the CL and won a trophy that most Spurs fans could only dream of winning for the last few decades given their utter dearth of trophies.

But yeah Spurs are the only club who can be so hopelessly devoid of trophies in the PL and modern era but then sack the manager who delivers them their biggest trophy in decades and first trophy in nearly twenty years right after he wins it
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I am afraid I don't agree

Postecoglou can massage the bad form as much as he wants but Spurs have been terrible for 20 months

The Europa League is a much easier competition since it was revamped with no CL rejects in it, making the trade off much less impressive

And any serious DoF would care more about consistent league position because they want consistent CL football and 17th is alarmingly bad

We also have a very clear warning to DoFs that league form can't be ignored: Utd and Ten Hag

Anyway enough debating about Spurs lol, but yeah I dislike Levy but it was only credible decision imo

Spurs can immortalize his second tier trophy lol, Anges reputation is saved and they can find a manager who understands the PL better
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Nobody is denying that 17th in the league is really bad but Manchester United who are a much bigger club finished about there too and they've kept their manager despite him making them much worse than when he arrived and not winning a trophy lol.

As for Ange he was still voted PL manager of the year in his first season at Spurs. So he leaves with that accolade as well as being the first manager to win a trophy for Spurs in years in his second season and getting them CL football in the process.

Those are the things that will be remembered in future seasons and if Spurs now revert to type and fail to win any trophies in the coming years it will only make this decision to sack Ange look even more comical 🐔.
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Amorim is inheriting the legacy of Ten Hag, and the board's decison to keep Ten Hag and back him with loads of money for crap players because he won a trophy.

It just exposes my point more thoroughly. If you don't make a tough decision, you create a mess that a new manager can't solve.

So, yeah Levy might be clowned a bit this summer and that's all part of football banter. But it was definitely the right call to stop the rot and give a more reliable manager a pre season to fix it.

"As for Ange he was still voted PL manager of the year in his first season at Spurs"

I have no idea if this is true, but if so it's crackers. Spurs's form fell of a cliff after November.

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/468226

CMF lobbying for Cucurella's sale. Utter mad lad

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 27 minutes ago
"As for Ange he was still voted PL manager of the year in his first season at Spurs"

I have no idea if this is true, but if so it's crackers. Spurs's form fell of a cliff after November.
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In Feb of that season he won the award at the Football Awards. Not saying I agree with it as Spurs ended up fifth. Although I don't think their form "fell off a cliff" as early as November that season. Would make the decision to give him that award three months later in February even more daft.

comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 27 minutes ago
"As for Ange he was still voted PL manager of the year in his first season at Spurs"

I have no idea if this is true, but if so it's crackers. Spurs's form fell of a cliff after November.
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In Feb of that season he won the award at the Football Awards. Not saying I agree with it as Spurs ended up fifth. Although I don't think their form "fell off a cliff" as early as November that season. Would make the decision to give him that award three months later in February even more daft.
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Ok, will need to check but I recall they went from top of the league in the first 10 games to, as the Spurs statement said yesterday, winning just 78 points from the other 66 PL games he managed.

That to me implies his tactics got found out and through either dogma or lack of flexibility, he couldn't fix it — not with Spurs players and their budget.

Thomas Frank is a much more suitable manager for them and their players/budget. I don't think they'll be a threat next season as there's so much work to do, but he'll build a structure to their team and in a year or two they'll probably a top 5-8 team again.

So, yeah Levy might be clowned a bit this summer and that's all part of football banter. But it was definitely the right call to stop the rot and give a more reliable manager a pre season to fix it.
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They already brought in the likes of Conte and Mourinho and it got them nowhere. They're Spurs, not winning things is what they do and I don't see that changing whether they bring in a "reliable" manager or not lol

comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 23 seconds ago
So, yeah Levy might be clowned a bit this summer and that's all part of football banter. But it was definitely the right call to stop the rot and give a more reliable manager a pre season to fix it.
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They already brought in the likes of Conte and Mourinho and it got them nowhere. They're Spurs, not winning things is what they do and I don't see that changing whether they bring in a "reliable" manager or not lol
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You're debating something separate to what I am.

Spurs are losers and Levy makes bad choices yes. That's why they clowned on.

What I am debating: does Ange deserve to keep his job? No. And would any credible DoF sack him? Definitely yes.

Thomas Frank is a much more suitable manager for them and their players/budget. I don't think they'll be a threat next season as there's so much work to do, but he'll build a structure to their team and in a year or two they'll probably a top 5-8 team again.
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That would effectively mean they go backwards then as they were 5th last season and they got CL this season

Also, Conte and Mourinho were also poor choices for what Spurs want. Both are combustible hotheads who want lots of signings and are happy to stink the place out if they don't get their way. As much as I love both of them

On the criteria Spurs base managers on - I would say neither is remotely reliable, and that they were poor hires that were always going to end in tears.

Spurs thrived under Pochettino. A manager who squeezed the most with a limited budget and also consistently finished high in the league and improved all their players.

Do I prefer RA's boom and bust approach? Yeah we won trophies

But Spurs aren't looking for that.

comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
Thomas Frank is a much more suitable manager for them and their players/budget. I don't think they'll be a threat next season as there's so much work to do, but he'll build a structure to their team and in a year or two they'll probably a top 5-8 team again.
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That would effectively mean they go backwards then as they were 5th last season and they got CL this season
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If you think 17th and getting CL for a competition quirk is sustainable then you're delusional.

I also think fixing Ange's mess and getting Spurs to 8th would be actually quite solid. They're going to get repeatedly clowned in the CL next season.

Anyway this is a lot of debating about Spurs and I don't think we're going to agree on this.

I think Ange was a bit of a charlatan and unsuited to the PL, and this decision was both rational and fairest on all sides.

I'm not even necessarily debating the rights and wrongs of sacking him. My maint point is that only Spurs would sack a manager right after he delivers the holy grail for them ie a trophy.

And yes their league form was atrocious but it does seem fairly obvious that Ange pretty much gave up on the league at a point to put all focus and energy into winning the EL. So there's definitely context to the league form and finishing 17th as it meant them winning a trophy and playing in the CL next season.

If you think 17th and getting CL for a competition quirk is sustainable then you're delusional.
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Never said it was lol

I'm not even necessarily debating the rights and wrongs of sacking him. My maint point is that only Spurs would sack a manager right after he delivers the holy grail for them ie a trophy.

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Yes, and I completely disagree because, bantering Spurs aside, my main point is any sensible DoF in the country sacks Ange for his performance over the past two years.

I also just fundamentally disagree it was a tactic when Ange's form declined over 20 months. He got found out and exposed yonks before he prioritized the Europa League.